5th Gen Concepts

SNEAKY NEIL
02-20-2005, 10:27 AM
My senior project in Industrial design is creating a 5th gen Camaro. Here are some pics of some early/quick concepts. Let me know what you think and please give me feedback (good or bad) so I can better refine my concepts. Thank you very much.

I have a couple hundred sketches so I just picked a few.

Page 1 (http://concepts.cz28.com/photo.html)
Page 2 (http://concepts.cz28.com/photo2.html)

Please excuse the crudeness of the website.

number77
02-20-2005, 10:55 AM
dude, those rock. :)

MissedShift
02-20-2005, 10:59 AM
:thumb:

Heatmaker
02-20-2005, 11:01 AM
New cadilliac Catera?!? :confused:

Bob Cosby
02-20-2005, 11:21 AM
Crudeness aside..... I like em. :)

SNEAKY NEIL
02-20-2005, 11:29 AM
If anyone has the time, could you tell me specifically what you like or don't like or maybe a certain direction you would like to see. The end result of this project will be a 1/5th scale model fully painted so I would like to have as much input from people who know a lot about the car so the final solution is successful. Thanks.

Good Ph.D
02-20-2005, 12:54 PM
Two horizantal rows of lights, LEDs like on the G35 but in a first gen type of taillamp sort of way. :think:

Also it seems to much like a freshened fourth gen. Try adding the "swoop" things that everybody else has put on theirs, that go from the top of the wheel wells.

I also think you should make the curve of the front bumper more tiered,and then have the two headlamps tiered as well, ala third and fourth gen.

Also try some different hoods. A cowl, Ram Air, and nostrils.. I like nostrils. :)

Heatmaker
02-20-2005, 04:37 PM
Personally I"m not a fan of the flat streamlined look cadilliac tyoe if style... and the line that goes through the middle of the rear doesn't brake the car up well... the frontof the car just doesn't look sinister enough for me atleast.


I think a nice Wide, rounded off rear that shows the hips of the Camaro would be nice... Camaro's always had bold hip lines... but they semed to have lost them in the 80's. The front could use a tone down on the stream lining. The hood is alright... but the bigblock hood is kinda old now. IT's not a bad car if you called it something else... it be a winner... but as a camaro... It needs to look a bit more like one.

killer-camaro
02-20-2005, 05:01 PM
man, this (http://concepts.cz28.com/images/camaro_front3.jpg) front is BADASS. a smidge to 4th gen for my liking, but by far the best of them. maybe keep the headlights a quadrilateral design, but make them more swept in towards the middle. a different lower grille shape would help too.

my .02

mustangmuncher
02-20-2005, 07:54 PM
Some of the side views look a lot like the MK3 supras (86-92) but I really do like the sketches.

Z28SilverBullet
02-20-2005, 08:07 PM
Good sketches man...and good ideas. I like where you're going with it.

NOS2006
02-20-2005, 08:16 PM
Nice work and looks good, man!

CamaroRSguy
02-20-2005, 09:44 PM
I like them, right amount of retro and modern. I love em :bow:

Big Als Z
02-21-2005, 12:05 AM
I see 4th in the nose, and third gen in the rear, and first gen in the middle. Put some circle tails on it to pay homage to the 2nd gens, and bingo.

SNEAKY NEIL
02-21-2005, 08:20 AM
Thanks guys. What I am shooting for is a 5th gen Z28 that is similar to the relationship of the Corvette and ZO6 but not quite the gap that current C6 will have. So it will have unique appearence, high emphasis on handling (brake cooling ducts, lightweight, proper wheels and tires, ect.), and of course performance.

The car of course will not be retro but still have design cues from the past and I think it should break new ground as well. I would like to use some contemporary design cues so that means that the car won't be as rounded as the 4th gen and will have more creases. The overhangs will be reduced from the 4th gen as well. Another issue I am dealing with is that I have not fully decided on weather I want to do a hatckback or trunk. Anyway, thank you for the feedback and the quick marker renderings are not of a choosen concept, just a study on a random concept. Thanks.

3rdGenNut
02-21-2005, 12:14 PM
this one (http://concepts.cz28.com/images/camaro_side2.jpg)
I really like this.
Try to stay as far away from 4th & 2nd gen as possible, IMO.

Big Als Z
02-21-2005, 12:17 PM
The roof of the car needs to be curved more, give it more of a tear drop look.

bond2
02-21-2005, 03:06 PM
The profile on this one looks great:

http://concepts.cz28.com/images/camaro_side9.jpg

What about Fog Lights? Can't wait to see the finished product.


:cool:

SNEAKY NEIL
02-22-2005, 07:40 AM
All of my original concepts had fog light in them but I axed them because I wanted to put in the brake cooling ducts. If I had both the ducts and fog lights, the front looks way too busy but I could look into that.

Al, are you talking about the profile view needing to be more streamlined? I am working on concepts for both a hatch and trunk and the hatch of course would give that streamlined look and I think that is the direction I want to go. So the hatchback will stay.

I am having a hard time with the grill. That seems to be the hardest part. I want to make it look like a Camaro but at the same time I want to bring something new to the table.

Please keep the comments comming and I will have some more sketches posted in a few days.

RoMaD
02-22-2005, 09:22 AM
I really like all of the designs. Pic #20 on the first page though is my favorite rear end configuration. It would be interesting to see more of the round tail lights though, because it seems Chevy is going more toward that in a lot of their cars. I can't help you with the front though. I wasn't crazy about any of the front end designs, but I can't give any suggestions other than I'll know what I like when I see it. I'd like to see fog lights because you know they will be functional. If GM puts brake vents on a car, they most likely won't be functional, and IMHO that makes it worse than not having them.

The profiles seem very similar, but I would like to see something more streamlined as well, but with a trunk. I know, probably can't have it both ways, but it would be interesting to see someone try. I'm not necessarily a trunk fan, but I would like to see alternatives. However, not at the expense of anything mechanical.

I guess it just depends on what you're going for. Are you going for the car you want GM to make, or the car you think they'll make? If it's the former, don't listen to us, they are all great designs.