ProudPony 02-15-2005, 10:53 AM PURE SPECULATION at this point, but I have heard a good deal about it lately.
Along with the Crown Vic, Ford needs another smaller car to offer LEAs to go out with.
Something to compete with the likes of the Impala and the old Taurus.
Also, Dodge is known to be offering a couple new models for LEA duty in the next year or two. Might be nice to have Mustang go head-to-head with a Charger Police unit - the Mustang at least had a good reputation as an interceptor... nationwide.
So here's the second one I know of locally...
Mustang Highway Patrol (http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/headlines/Default.asp?SecID=41&ArID=85831)
I have to say, as cool as I think it is, I also think it borders on entrapment.
You and I both know that ricers are going to jump all over this car, what with the racing stripes and tinted windows and all.
MAN, this trooper will wear out pens like toothpicks writing people up for racing and wreckless on I-85 near Charlotte... :shock:
More and more these days, you gotta watch what you jump on... huh?!?! :Owned:
Last week, I passed a white 2004 Tahoe that was as plain as what rolls out of the plant in Wisconsin... except for those little blue lights in the rear window and windshield (headlamps had strobes too). I wondered if it was a Tahoe Persuit Package or simply a plain Tahoe undercover. It was a highway patrol unit, saw the trooper outside it.
Caution to you all my friends!!! ;)
BigBlueCruiser 02-15-2005, 11:30 AM Last week, I passed a white 2004 Tahoe that was as plain as what rolls out of the plant in Wisconsin... except for those little blue lights in the rear window and windshield (headlamps had strobes too). I wondered if it was a Tahoe Persuit Package or simply a plain Tahoe undercover. It was a highway patrol unit, saw the trooper outside it.
Caution to you all my friends!!! ;)
Isn't Pursuit Tahoe an oxymoron? ...jumbo shrimp comes to mind
Z28Wilson 02-15-2005, 12:41 PM Isn't Pursuit Tahoe an oxymoron? ...jumbo shrimp comes to mind
That was my kneejerk reaction, and I still don't find Tahoes to be suitable police offerings from GM, but consider that the police package Tahoe did outperform the Crown Vic in many tests done by the Michigan State Police recently.....
Beanboy 02-15-2005, 12:48 PM Tahoe police vehicle for typical on-road police work is insane. Shows you how stupid GM management is. Let's see, sell it for 30K and make 10K in profit on a optioned version to a private party or sell a stripped version for 15K and make 1K to the government.
-B
ProudPony 02-15-2005, 01:32 PM We had a HUGE discussion about the Tahoe Persuit Package last year - really got some feathers ruffled!
I agree with you guys. I was the one that said I had a problem with a 4500lb SUV, with it's bumpers at my door glass level, coming at me at 137 mph (it's confirmed top speed BTW).
I can see lawsuits coming out the wazoo over that.
Now for park ranger service, border patrol, or in remote areas I can surely see a need for an SUV - especially 4wd. But who needs to go 137mph on a gravel road or goat path?!?! :confused:
BigBlueCruiser 02-15-2005, 04:19 PM We had a HUGE discussion about the Tahoe Persuit Package last year - really got some feathers ruffled!
I agree with you guys. I was the one that said I had a problem with a 4500lb SUV, with it's bumpers at my door glass level, coming at me at 137 mph (it's confirmed top speed BTW).
I can see lawsuits coming out the wazoo over that.
Now for park ranger service, border patrol, or in remote areas I can surely see a need for an SUV - especially 4wd. But who needs to go 137mph on a gravel road or goat path?!?! :confused:
Yup. Collateral damage out the wazoo if one o these gets in a REAL car chase.
96_Camaro_B4C 02-15-2005, 04:27 PM This isn't a new concept; there have been police Tahoes since the mid-90s (going on 10 years now), with the GMT400 Tahoes being offered as police vehicles in 2wd form with the 255 hp Vortec 5.7. They probably aren't much heavier than a Crown Vic or Caprice, at least as 2wds.
But anyway, this thread is about Mustang cop cars. That would be a strange site, methinks, with the heavily retro-inspired looks. The Mustang was somewhat known as a cop car during the Fox-body 5.0 years, but try to picture a '70 Mach 1 with police lights on it (sort of what a new Mustang cop car would resemble). :think:
jakef2003 02-15-2005, 04:43 PM 05 Mustang + LED lighting = DANG.
I think the Tahoe police package is a GREAT idea, as long as the agency doesn't primarily use them for chase duty. We have 3 here, and a Dodge Durango among others, and the officers assigned to them LOVE them. You can NEVER have too much room.
Red02SS 02-15-2005, 07:55 PM That stang looks good, but the stealth lights scream "REVENUE ENHANCEMENT" big-time.
I've always felt that if I'm speeding along and a clearly marked cruiser with a lightbar pulls me over, that's my own dumb fault for getting a ticket. I wasn't paying attention.
Studies regularly show that one thing, and one thing only slows traffic. A visible, clearly marked cruiser.
guionM 02-15-2005, 08:04 PM Studies regularly show that one thing, and one thing only slows traffic. A visible, clearly marked cruiser.
Yep! :thumb:
Omegalock 02-16-2005, 11:16 AM I'm having flash backs to my youth when I thought the black and white Texas State Trooper Mustangs were the coolest things ever made. If I had to get pulled over I'd want it to be by something like that.
AronZ28 02-16-2005, 12:23 PM You could make the same argument about entrapment with the B4C pursuit Camaro, but I will agree that more people would be likely to race the Mustang since its the hottest thing since sliced bread, and it is cleary marked as the V8 model(unlike the B4C, which looked like a V6, but had the LS1 underhood).
96_Camaro_B4C 02-16-2005, 12:28 PM <snip>... (unlike the B4C, which looked like a V6, but had the LS1 underhood).Ahem. LT1s too ...
:)
Big Red Jim 02-16-2005, 04:20 PM Illinois State Police have been using Mustangs as long as I can remember. Fox bodies, SN95's, '99+ GT's. Hell, they even have a Silver GTP and green Caravan :eek:
Got-LT1 02-17-2005, 02:12 AM Just a quick FYI, it's not entrapment if the officer is just cruising along and you pull up, rev, and then take off. No if they rev back or something like that, that's a diffeerent story....
Geoff Chadwick 02-17-2005, 09:56 AM We have Tahoes and Durangos here for both local police, EMT's, and State Troopers. They are extremely advantageous.
They are NOT persuit vehicles. If a persuit ever takes place in ANY patrol vehicle, they call backup. The SUV's are told not to persue (atleast the Troopers in NY).
The huge advantage is the ground clearance. It isnt necessary often, but it has advantages. Dont forget State Troopers have a pretty decent domain to cover, and so do normal Police. A standard patrol car cant make it through 6" of mud, cant do some random duty work, and also cant pull police boats.
Cops certainly arent stupid. Nobody in their right mind would take a tahoe above 100mph. If you do, you shouldnt be on the roads.
But the overall moral of the story is simple. It's like a Condem. Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. When seconds count you'd best be prepared.
And some states require patrol cars to be clearly marked and such, though those laws are slowly fading away. I think this one is NOT fair because of the stripes and windows, and you can bet there will be entrapment issues.
On the same note, the City of Troy police department did a nice drug bust in 2002. They got a 2001 Z06 (in black with magnesium wheels) and nothing was stock. They had to do some work to get it road legal, but they took that thing and made it the D.A.R.E car. How cool, and yet un-cool, is that?
Kids, pay attention to me cause I have a sweet car. Dont do drugs. Who payed for this car? A dealer. How'd he get it? Drugs. :lol:
I want to see an Aveo with a light bar!
Steve0 02-17-2005, 10:30 AM Just a quick FYI, it's not entrapment if the officer is just cruising along and you pull up, rev, and then take off. No if they rev back or something like that, that's a diffeerent story....
I dont think it would be entrapment if they revved back. They are not forcing you to race them. If you take off like a bat over hell and get pulled thats your fault.
To me, its the same thing as an undercover cop offering to buy drugs.
dj haf 02-17-2005, 10:52 AM i saw a bad accident a few months back and there was a red mustang (v6) with the low profile interior blue and red lights near the accident
ProudPony 02-17-2005, 03:14 PM If I were to get busted racing a car like that, I deserve everything I get. I have no problems with that. My point was that there are people on the roads who don't have sense enought to look at who is driving before they decide to slam down the hammer. This car BEGS those people to do just that! Black racing stripes over the hood?!?! Rims? Tinted windows?
I hate to admit it, but I would have sailed right onto that thing in my younger days. :o
I guess aging DOES have it's advantages... nowadays I'd rather wave or give a thumbs-up to a fellow ponycar driver as we pass (Camaro, Firebird, Mustang) and bust a bag of rice instead. Nice short-lived little pull-away jaunts - nothing radical or extreme, just enough to make the point then back off. I admit that I DO feed my horse a steady diet of rice - especially if the rice begs me to eat it.
Now if the Highway Patrol starts using Civics and/or Lancers with 3-foot-tall wings on the back for patrol units - I'm DEAD MEAT! :D
Got-LT1 02-18-2005, 02:43 AM I dont think it would be entrapment if they revved back. They are not forcing you to race them. If you take off like a bat over hell and get pulled thats your fault.
To me, its the same thing as an undercover cop offering to buy drugs.
I agree with you but it has been argued at least once in court and said to be entrapment, so most departments don't let you do it.
3rdGenNut 02-18-2005, 02:50 AM To me, its the same thing as an undercover cop offering to buy drugs.
On duty or off? :D
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