its official. camaro in 06-07

many of you prolly already know the scoop but for those who dont the camaro IS coming back in 06- to early 07. it is gonna be a throw back like the 05 mustang.

'06 or '07 :no: Once again, 2008 at the earliest.

Where Did This Info Come From?

many of you prolly already know the scoop but for those who dont the camaro IS coming back in 06- to early 07. it is gonna be a throw back like the 05 mustang.
What?

it is gonna be a throw back like the 05 mustang.

Thats not what I heard

Retro is soooooo 2000. Mustang styling is already looking dated to me. :blah:

Also this currently is the '06 model year, Camaro will be a '08. The next GTO will come out before the next Camaro.

2008 calendar year is when it's going to be produced, might not even be out in production until 2009... but it's definitely coming. :bow:

2008 calendar year is when it's going to be produced, might not even be out in production until 2009... but it's definitely coming. :bow:

I hope you are right :o as of right now my faith is waivering..... :(

I hope you are right :o as of right now my faith is waivering..... :(

I think the 2006 NAIAS is going to the the breaking point in keeping faith. By then GM can talk about the camaro and Zeta & Kappa will be out, so there is no reason not to know anymore.

many of you prolly already know the scoop but for those who dont the camaro IS coming back in 06- to early 07. it is gonna be a throw back like the 05 mustang.

Care to elaborate as to where you got this "official" info from? :confused: :think:

Indeed! Where can we all see this concrete info?

He's pulling your leg.

Oh boy....I love these threads.

Don't take this personally iCE but man I hate these post! I expect it to be this type when I open it but I'm hoping it really will be something "official"... never is.

He's pulling your leg.

I know, but I'll just play along. I guess at the moment he is too busy at the dealership putting in his deposit and is not able to give us more info on this. I'm sure he'll update us as the day progresses... :rolleyes:

I think the 2006 NAIAS is going to the the breaking point in keeping faith. By then GM can talk about the camaro and Zeta & Kappa will be out, so there is no reason not to know anymore.

From the info that Red Planet and others gave, you will not hear of it or see it at a show before its introduced. That means it will be on the streets first.

No concept car? I think we have to see that before anything happens.

No concept car? I think we have to see that before anything happens.

Not according to what has been said in the recent past.

From the info that Red Planet and others gave, you will not hear of it or see it at a show before its introduced. That means it will be on the streets first.


Huh?? Your saying the new "camaro" will one day just show up at your local dealer for sale? I hightly doubt that, and in fact I would bet against it.

If and when Chevy decides a new "camaro" is official it will be introduced at an auto show first.

Huh?? Your saying the new "camaro" will one day just show up at your local dealer for sale? I hightly doubt that, and in fact I would bet against it.

If and when Chevy decides a new "camaro" is official it will be introduced at an auto show first.

Look back at old posts to see what I am talking about.

He's pulling your leg.

No it's true...They are comming back out with the camaro... My friend works for GM.....this thing looks mean as hell.....

No concept car? I think we have to see that before anything happens.

I've been thinking of that for a while... In fact I think a concept would be a bad idea. We don't want fall out for differences between concept and production like on the new mustang, at this stage in the game GM should just shoot from the hip.

Some nice unpromising advertising would be good too.. Too bad Camaro doesen't have a definitive symbol like firebird... Something like the chevy family lined up at the dealership... and there is a space noticeably empty, a la knights of the round table, and it just cuts to an engine revving and a blurred car coming down the highway, then cuts to black and fades over the chevy bowtie... :bow:

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No it's true...They are comming back out with the camaro... My friend works for GM.....this thing looks mean as hell.....
:lol: :lol: C'mon....

No offense, but we've been hearing this same gig from many others for years...

I've been thinking of that for a while... In fact I think a concept would be a bad idea. We don't want fall out for differences between concept and production like on the new mustang, at this stage in the game GM should just shoot from the hip.

Some nice unpromising advertising would be good too.. Too bad Camaro doesen't have a definitive symbol like firebird... Something like the chevy family lined up at the dealership... and there is a space noticeably empty, a la knights of the round table, and it just cuts to an engine revving and a blurred car coming down the highway, then cuts to black and fades over the chevy bowtie... :bow:

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I 100% agree. just drop the production car on us.

This thread should be deleted and you and your friend should volounteer as test dummies for crash testing.

This thread should be deleted and you and your friend should volounteer as test dummies for crash testing.
For the 5th gen! ohhhh the irony...

I've been thinking of that for a while... In fact I think a concept would be a bad idea. We don't want fall out for differences between concept and production like on the new mustang, at this stage in the game GM should just shoot from the hip.

Some nice unpromising advertising would be good too.. Too bad Camaro doesen't have a definitive symbol like firebird... Something like the chevy family lined up at the dealership... and there is a space noticeably empty, a la knights of the round table, and it just cuts to an engine revving and a blurred car coming down the highway, then cuts to black and fades over the chevy bowtie... :bow:

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Moot point.

People would be split on the final production car too. Some will like the styling and some won't---same with any other car. I would never buy it if I didn't like the styling and the fact is it won't appeal to everyone one.

A concpet car would get people excited and beleiveing in GM again.

I like the no concept car idea. Obviously itll be shown at the Auto Show before you can buy one, but it will be the production version of what its going ot look like, not a concept and then have another 2 years of designing. Also, that idea for a commercial sounds AWESOME! Especially because theyve been doing those Cobalt and Corvette comercials, with the whole big brother little brother thing. The Camaro could be the middle brother!!!

k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

And the good ol camaro IS going to be PRODUCED in late 06-early 07. NOT 08-09. And it IS going to be retro JUST LIKE the freakin 05 mustang. SAVE this post and if I am wrong then call me what you want. Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM. As soon as more INFO is released (pix, numbers) I will post. :D

I would think that a NAIAS viewing would work very well if it was followed by the actual release of the car late that summer/early fall.

k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

And the good ol camaro IS going to be PRODUCED in late 06-early 07. NOT 08-09. And it IS going to be retro JUST LIKE the freakin 05 mustang. SAVE this post and if I am wrong then call me what you want. Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM. As soon as more INFO is released (pix, numbers) I will post. :D

One does not have to be "mean" in order be skeptical. Color me skeptical of your information. Very, very skeptical.

Moot point.

People would be split on the final production car too. Some will like the styling and some won't---same with any other car. I would never buy it if I didn't like the styling and the fact is it won't appeal to everyone one.

A concpet car would get people excited and beleiveing in GM again.

Meh. A knockout production would get people more excited. At this point if we are getting a new Camaro it should be well on its way to completion, so a concept plus design tweaking faze just seems... like too much.


Also, that idea for a commercial sounds AWESOME! Especially because theyve been doing those Cobalt and Corvette comercials, with the whole big brother little brother thing. The Camaro could be the middle brother!!!

The prodigal son returns... :metal:


k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

Die troll. People talk **** about threads because this is a message board and thats how they operate. People in this forum are wringing every last bit of info out of the crumbs they get from GM and you honestly expect "It's coming out because somehow I know something nobody else knows from my uncle's cousin's neighbor to go over well." Stop trolling.

k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK.
Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM.

Personally, if I was on the 5th gen production team, I wouldn't tell an important secret to someone as immachure as you are... :rolleyes:

some troll starts a camaro in '06 post and everybody believes him????

iCE.

were here at 5th gen all the time, there are a handfull of people on thisforum that know the s#!T 3-4 months before the mags do...and some even write the mags..with that said..I dont think anyone would spill it to you, if so what part of the team? where is he living??..a guy on here Red Planet..well lets just say you could not get any closer to the info than him he was the CAMARO guy..and he has not come around since...

iCE everything you said contradicts what we have learned from here, CheersnGears and tidbits throught the collective forum on other sites as well...

If your right..get this info and we can verify it..someone can..there are a few that can pass this info along...and get a nod yes or no..

one..what platform,
two..where is it going to be built..
three..the other cars its supposed to be with are not comming out till 07 08..so how wouold they jumpstart this???

Basically iCE we need proof more than you just saying what we have been wondering for so long..

when something like that is said we jump on it in seconds, disect it and look at all possibilities...and from what I see the ones in the know say your 07 Camaro is a no go...

so again all I ask for is proof..pics, drawings or something....and the above info...

and be forewarned that if you dig up pics already seen or info already posted your going to get flamed ( meaning no Chris Horton Camaro pics or CnG concepts)...


and no we are not going to wait a yr to see this happen if it is in one yr basically till it comes out you should have the info and pics now..so the shakedown of the car and plant be done..

I have said my peace...now back yours up.... ;)

Well since we are talking hypothetical BS in a BS thread....

What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro? ;)

What if after seeing all the hype and positive feedback of the Holden Torana concept, GM has decided to go in a new direction? Has everyone seen the blurb in Hot Rod saying that rumor has it the next Camaro would be based off the Torana concept? Wasn't that car was based off a modified version of Kappa?

Remember the press release a few weeks back on GM scaling back production vehicles based on Kappa? Remember the speculation on why the Chevy Nomad (based off Kappa) wasn't probably going into production? Maybe be it was for another reason. ;)

Maybe the Kappa based Nomad as evolved into something else. Remember what the original Nomad concept was based on? (The one before the Chevy Blazer version.)

I'll bet a Kappa-based Chevy Coupe could arrive by late 2006 as a 2007 model. ;)

But heck, as long as we're speculating.... :D

I saw the SS concept at the show this weekend. I found myself asking why are they still showing this......

I saw the SS concept at the show this weekend. I found myself asking why are they still showing this......

Actually I see more next-gen Impala in the SS than Camaro. ;)

Well since we are talking hypothetical BS in a BS thread....

What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro? ;)

What if after seeing all the hype and positive feedback of the Holden Torana concept, GM has decided to go in a new direction? Has everyone seen the blurb in Hot Rod saying that rumor has it the next Camaro would be based off the Torana concept? Wasn't that car was based off a modified version of Kappa?

Remember the press release a few weeks back on GM scaling back production vehicles based on Kappa? Remember the speculation on why the Chevy Nomad (based off Kappa) wasn't probably going into production? Maybe be it was for another reason. ;)

Maybe the Kappa based Nomad as evolved into something else. Remember what the original Nomad concept was based on? (The one before the Chevy Blazer version.)

I'll bet a Kappa-based Chevy Coupe could arrive by late 2006 as a 2007 model. ;)

But heck, as long as we're speculating.... :D

You've just put into words what I've been mulling over in my head for months...

Wouldn't that be AMAZING? A mini-vette based Camaro? I know a Camaro isn't necessarily supposed to be a corner carver but on a Kappa based platform it sure as heck could, as well as with V8 Power... It would be possible to compete with Mustang in ETs with less horsepower... This is assuming the Torana based chassis comes in around Kappa on the scales. However, just imagine with me for a second if you will (even if you're in the know and know otherwise) imagine a 3000 to sub 3000 lb Camaro that handles like a Corvette with 400 hp LS2 under the hood. :eek: :bow: I think I just had a car-gasm.

k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

And the good ol camaro IS going to be PRODUCED in late 06-early 07. NOT 08-09. And it IS going to be retro JUST LIKE the freakin 05 mustang. SAVE this post and if I am wrong then call me what you want. Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM. As soon as more INFO is released (pix, numbers) I will post. :D

Take a chill pill, mister... :rolleyes:

When you post that something is official it usually means that there is official info given out by GM and that public info should be available somewhere for the general public to see (press release etc.) and examine.

What do you have? Somebody working in some project at GM saying something about some day when the possible 5th Gen is being produced.

I don't think too many people are denying that it couldn't be true (the date is highly unlikely, though, IMO...). However, you've been here since 2001, so you should know better... You need to have a bit more concrete info than what you are giving out to convince anybody. Especially when you mark it as being OFFICIAL. That's all.

But yeah, I guess I'll save this thread. Just for the hell of it. ;)

TS

I know a Camaro isn't necessarily supposed to be a corner carver...

Ummm...come again? :irk:

k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

And the good ol camaro IS going to be PRODUCED in late 06-early 07. NOT 08-09. And it IS going to be retro JUST LIKE the freakin 05 mustang. SAVE this post and if I am wrong then call me what you want. Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM. As soon as more INFO is released (pix, numbers) I will post. :D


How old are you? You talk like a little kid. Wah! I'm taking my ball home. There have been thousands of posts about a Camaro or no Camaro on this site. There has not been one shred of hard evidence to date, not one.

I'm not convinced by your post that a Camaro is coming out next year that's for sure. :D

Have a nice day!

How old are you? You talk like a little kid. Wah! I'm taking my ball home. There have been thousands of posts about a Camaro or no Camaro on this site. There has not been one shred of hard evidence to date, not one.

I'm not convinced by your post that a Camaro is coming out next year that's for sure. :D

Have a nice day!



:eek: :bow:

whatever happened to the SS concept?

whatever happened to the SS concept?

It was banished to a land where concept cars are eternally sent to the auto show circuit but never produced! :eek:

whatever happened to the SS concept?
I just saw it last Friday at the Motor Trend Auto Show in Baltimore. It was nice looking... a little too big for anything I'd ever buy, but nice. :)

No concept car? I think we have to see that before anything happens.
No ya don't.
Where was the "concept" Corvette? ;)

...If and when Chevy decides a new "camaro" is official it will be introduced at an auto show first.
Most likely.... actually, you could probally bet the farm on it.


k I am the one who origianlly posted this thread. Why do so many people have to talk **** about it? :confused: I dont get it, do all of you talking crap just have a ****ty life???? its not my fault you suck. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. I am not saying this to all of you, there are tons of awsome people on this board. Lots of friends on here.

And the good ol camaro IS going to be PRODUCED in late 06-early 07. NOT 08-09. And it IS going to be retro JUST LIKE the freakin 05 mustang. SAVE this post and if I am wrong then call me what you want. Where did I hear this from???? From someone who is actually involved in the 5th gen production team at GM. As soon as more INFO is released (pix, numbers) I will post. :D

iCE, 1st of all, you stumbled into a community that has quite a few people who are actually in the know on such things, or have direct access to people that do. You are also posting something that is either complete heresay, complete BS, or is simply from someone with alot more imagination than patience to use a search button.

2nd of all, it's been pretty much established when the earliest the next Camaro will be out. It's based on a particular chassis that won't see production till next year (2007).

3rd, a company doesn't simply snap it's fingers and a car appears. There's the plant that has to be chosen, suppliers that have to be chosen & who have to develop parts & subsystems. Those parts & subsystems have to be tested & certified. As more & more people get involved in the project, and mention it, you can tell approximately how far the vehicle is away from production.

4th, and finally, GM doesn't make official announcements on cars till they actually unveil them. Go look for an official announcement on the C6 Corvette. The redesigned Impala & Monte Carlo. The XLR. You won't see "Official" announcements till the car's unveiled. Sure, you can get accurate information on it, and you can even piece together what is said by people. But it's still not "official information.

So, when you bust on here with "official" info that Camaro is going to be produced well before everyone knows it will, you come across as an assclown. This isn't the "Lounge". :lol:




Well since we are talking hypothetical BS in a BS thread....

What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro? ;)

There's more truth to that then I think you realize. At least a couple times over. :)

Actually I see more next-gen Impala in the SS than Camaro. ;)

You know, I was thinking the same thing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ....you said "assclown".... :lol: :lol: :lol:

wow guionM...sounds like what I said...but I wasnt quoted.. ;)

you broke it down more but i said what you said in a nutshell..I WANT CREDIT :D ;) j/k

iCE see what were saying...

What Guy said :thumb:

...including the "assclown" part :D

i have a questin, since they are trying to get the camaro back, does this include the firebird as well?

no sorry to say the firebird is dead :death: :death:

whatever happened to the SS concept?

Any new Chevy "coupe" or "Camaro" will have a lot of SS Concept cues to it, especially the frontend. Which btw is reminisent of the 2nd gen Camaro's.

I personally believe the concept SS was a sneek preview of the 5th Gen Camaro. But of course that can change. Remember the GTO concept from 1999? We certainly did not get that car into production. :D

Ok, all together now, I WANT PICS! I WANT PICS! I WANT PICS! Just the girls now, I WANT PICS! Now the guys, I WANT PICS!

:lol: :lol: C'mon....

No offense, but we've been hearing this same gig from many others for years...
ok you guys beleave what you want.but the Camaro is coming back out...

Right now, I don't THINK we are saying the Camaro isn't coming out. We don't think is is coming out like this.

ICE, Let us know if any lawyers show up at your door. If they do, then you might be on to something :D

ok you guys beleave what you want.but the Camaro is coming back out...
I belIEve its coming back out too...but I'm not going to claim I have "official" information from imaginary people because of my belief.

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D

Well, we all know you're wrong, so thats all that matters. And, until you show us proof that you somehow know more than ALOT of people at GM, then you will continue to be wrong. And in addition to being wrong, growing up wouldnt hurt :D

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D
This will get you nowhere on CZ28.com.:no:

You shouldn't pick mental battles when you are clearly unarmed.

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D
since you have 0 credibility here, I have to ask if you're willing to stake your mother's and your life on it. oh wait, that's right, you have no credibility which means your word is worthless. I'm sorry you'll have to hang on I think I see some pink elefants flying outside my window...

I'm glad I skipped over pages two and three...

next!

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D

Your a tool. If you have proof dude, present it. Otherwise STFU.

This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.

If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.

Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.

By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS

GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.

It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).

There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.

*EDIT*

Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."

*EDIT*

It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.

When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!

I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...

This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.

If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.

Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.

By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS

GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.

It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).

There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.

*EDIT*

Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."

*EDIT*

It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.

When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!

I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...


Actually some posters here contributed to this article so yeah we know about it.

ok you guys beleave what you want.but the Camaro is coming back out...


were saying not when he says it is..next yr???

neurotictim ..dude..some of the guys that are part of that article help with info ARE ON THIS BOARD! Where do you think they got this info...and like I said that info was known to us 3-4 months before that article was even made..

iCEAND NO IM NOT OVER 40! WTF does that have to do with anything?

I am going to make this clear, since alot of people come here for info cus they know it is reliable, its true and people like you really are trolls..

iCE,
There are less than 10 people on this forum that can come in here with close to 100% acurate information about the new GM coupe, and a few more that know things that they cannot tell us. Meaning they are real close.If you came in here asking and saying what you think you heard you would of gotten a respectable response. I know GM can shift gears at a drop of a hat and possibilities are endless, but being a 5th gen n00b you really got this out of hand. I am sure the people in here that have been in this forum for years are checking thier sources now, and you think this is bad wait till they get a response...

with that said your remark about being 40...well you must be around 20 give or take..so that really does not make you in the know..whatever you pull off the internet , do yourself a favor and do a search on here first..its been posted...(guess who got first looks at the C6 Z06 ;) yea us )

iCe, Unless you have proof, and you can Private Message one of the guys here who REALLY know their stuff to verify it...then my missinformed friend..

SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!!!! :alert: :mad: :death:

Woah, I wasn't trying to slam on those guys. I know there are people here with the inside scoop - I'm backing up what's been said with published articles for those few morons who know everything and want you to be impressed.

:bow:

My bad, I'll shut up now.

Woah, I wasn't trying to slam on those guys. I know there are people here with the inside scoop - I'm backing up what's been said with published articles for those few morons who know everything and want you to be impressed.

:bow:

My bad, I'll shut up now.

ok ;)

hey man im not flaming you at all..at least you posted it and not iCE...trust me not flaming you at all...just got caught up in the moment sorry :D

This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.

If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.

Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.

By Guy McCoy...

:lol: Who do you think guionM is? :lol:

Well since we are talking hypothetical BS in a BS thread....

What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro? ;)

There's more truth to that then I think you realize. At least a couple times over. :)

Actually there was more truth (or should I say belief in a truth) than BS in that statement... not that I have any inside information, but I am an enthusiast and an engineer, and without sounding too much like a pompousass, I believe I'm pretty good a figuring things out when given enough information to chew on. ;)

:lol: Who do you think guionM is? :lol:
:lol:

WoW...who knew we had so many experts lurking around here? :lol: This thread is a disaster.

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D

Yeah, I'll be 40 in 2007. And your point is??? :confused:

Okay... Enough feeding the troll... :blah:

LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) :D :D :D :D

Erm.... I'm only 35. :(

Does that mean I'm a loser and still need a life? :confused:

I FEEL like I'm over 40... :cry:

After you're done answering that one, please enlighten me with your encyclopedic knowledge of the automobile industry. I'm all ears.

Yeah, I'll be 40 in 2007. And your point is??? :confused:

I forgot what his point is, but mine is:

YOU'RE OLD. :death:

HEHEHEHEHE.

Hey Methuselah, I'm thinkin' yer too old to drive. :D

In an attempt to get something usefull from this thread....wasn't the SS concept a "cartoonish representation" of a future production car?

In an attempt to get something usefull from this thread....wasn't the SS concept a "cartoonish representation" of a future production car?

No expert here but I think the SS showed styling cues that many or all future Chevy's would have. Think of it as Ed Welburn saying this is what a Chevy looks like to me.

Wow! I guess we don't need anyone else notifying ice that what he heard is probably wrong.

On the SS...

It was also said that the SS concept had nothing to do with the styling of any future Camaro. I believe Red Planet said something to that effect not too long ago.

Caps94ZODG -dude you have way to much time on your hands. your post was so long Im sure no one took the time to actually read it. and according to that article........... Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy. that is what I said at the very begining.

wow guionM...sounds like what I said...but I wasnt quoted.. ;)

you broke it down more but i said what you said in a nutshell..I WANT CREDIT :D ;) j/k

iCE see what were saying...


Caps was my inspiration. I give him credit. :lol: ;)

Wow! I guess we don't need anyone else notifying ice that what he heard is probably wrong.

On the SS...

It was also said that the SS concept had nothing to do with the styling of any future Camaro. I believe Red Planet said something to that effect not too long ago.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying that in a post.

Caps94ZODG -dude you have way to much time on your hands. your post was so long Im sure no one took the time to actually read it. and according to that article........... Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy. that is what I said at the very begining.

Actually, you said 2006. 2007 calendar year as a 2008 is much more likely.

This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.

If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.

Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.

By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS
..

Well, if you want to find out more from the source who wrote that, simply type in guionM in the search function. I'm sure he has a few other items around here someplace. ;)

A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy. that is what I said at the very begining.

Where did the 2006 go??? :confused: :rolleyes:

Like mentioned so many times before, get your facts straight before you go posting any "official" info. :rolleyes:

I forgot what his point is, but mine is:

YOU'RE OLD. :death:

HEHEHEHEHE.

Hey Methuselah, I'm thinkin' yer too old to drive. :D

Hey!!! Watch it, mister!!! :mad: :death:

Now..., where did I put my walker... :o

Erm.... I'm only 35. :(

Does that mean I'm a loser and still need a life? :confused:

I FEEL like I'm over 40... :cry:

Pffft....40 isn't bad - at least the first 4 months or so of 40 haven't been bad. :D

Pffft....40 isn't bad - at least the first 4 months or so of 40 haven't been bad. :D

Is it true that it doesn't work any more and might as well fall off after 39?

Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick, Grandpa Bob? :cry:

You fartknockers are making me feel ancient....hell I'm nearly 48 :alert: :eek: :death:

You fartknockers are making me feel ancient....

:death: :death: :death: That's 'cause you ARE ancient. :death: :death: :death:



Welp, I guess I better add this so that everyone knows I'm kidding:

My wife is 42.

She likes 'em young. I'm her "trophy" husband.

:death: :death: :death: That's 'cause you ARE ancient. :death: :death: :death:



Welp, I guess I better add this so that everyone knows I'm kidding:

My wife is 42.

She likes 'em young. I'm her "trophy" husband.

:lol: :D

:death: :death: :death: That's 'cause you ARE ancient. :death: :death: :death:



Welp, I guess I better add this so that everyone knows I'm kidding:

My wife is 42.

She likes 'em young. I'm her "trophy" husband.
Oh my....the amount of things we have in common is truly distrubing. My wife is 5 years older than I. :eek:

Is it true that it doesn't work any more and might as well fall off after 39?
Yes. As far as you know.

here is what I posted in normal type..not really that much...

"were saying not when he says it is..next yr???
neurotictim ..dude..some of the guys that are part of that article help with info ARE ON THIS BOARD! Where do you think they got this info...and like I said that info was known to us 3-4 months before that article was even made..
iCEAND NO IM NOT OVER 40! WTF does that have to do with anything?
I am going to make this clear, since alot of people come here for info cus they know it is reliable, its true and people like you really are trolls..
iCE,There are less than 10 people on this forum that can come in here with close to 100% acurate information about the new GM coupe, and a few more that know things that they cannot tell us. Meaning they are real close.If you came in here asking and saying what you think you heard you would of gotten a respectable response. I know GM can shift gears at a drop of a hat and possibilities are endless, but being a 5th gen n00b you really got this out of hand. I am sure the people in here that have been in this forum for years are checking thier sources now, and you think this is bad wait till they get a response...
with that said your remark about being 40...well you must be around 20 give or take..so that really does not make you in the know..whatever you pull off the internet , do yourself a favor and do a search on here first..its been posted...(guess who got first looks at the C6 Z06 yea us )
iCe, Unless you have proof, and you can Private Message one of the guys here who REALLY know their stuff to verify it...then my missinformed friend..
SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!!!! "

wow thats not alot of type..did it in about 5 min...and now what you retracting what you said?



and your quoting somethign to us and the AUTHOR and COLLABORATORS OF THE ARTICLE are HERE and speaking against you????

I guess we can lock this thread......case closed..his info was from GuionM's blirb..:rolleyes:

Time to bring out some of the best advice I ever got......

Never argue w/ an idiot. Because they bring you down to their level, then beat you w/ experience.

-Dad

CLEAN...got to hand it to you, we just got OWNED :Owned: ;)

but a good one :D

Oh my....the amount of things we have in common is truly distrubing. My wife is 5 years older than I. :eek:

Yep, never go for 18-30 year olds.

I call those "the lobotomy years" for women.


Yes. As far as you know.

Which explains a lot. She'll be looking to trade me in in 4 years or so...

You fartknockers are making me feel ancient....hell I'm nearly 48 :alert: :eek: :death:

Man...thats like twice my age. Did they even have Camaro's back then....? :D

And what is wrong with being a trophy husband? :D

OMIGOD funniest thread ever...... Especially the posting of Guy's article :D



Ice, dude....take it from a fellow below 25 (certainly below 40) car guy....being young isnt an excuse for being ignorant.


Do SOME research before you post here again. Ever.

:death: :death: :death: That's 'cause you ARE ancient. :death: :death: :death:



Welp, I guess I better add this so that everyone knows I'm kidding:

My wife is 42.

She likes 'em young. I'm her "trophy" husband.


I consider myself a trophy husband eventhough I'm two years older than my wife.

Ummmmm....err....hey.....don't tell her I said that.......ok.

I think this should serve as a good indicator that the people who do know what is going on with the Camaro aren't saying much, because those who don't know are saying far too much.

This is a great example of a disinformation machine at work, albeit through some guy who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. :D

I think this should serve as a good indicator that the people who do know what is going on with the Camaro aren't saying much, because those who don't know are saying far too much.

This is a great example of a disinformation machine at work, albeit through some guy who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. :D



Ok lets play devil's advocate for a minute. Lets go out on a limb....a REALLY big limb, and say that iCE does happen to know *someone* at GM. This someone has stumbled across some information concerning the 5th gen, probably something we already know, and tells iCE about it. Obviously iCE (nor his source for that matter) spend much time on this forum or cheers and gears or they would know that we already have said info.....So with this in mind lets not be too hard on the idea, after all we ALL want our favorite car to return. Arguing over the semantics of it all does seem a little pointless.

Man...thats like twice my age. Did they even have Camaro's back then....? :D

I was 9 or 10 when the Camaro came out.....we've kinda' grown up together....

Scott's about a year older than me, so I ain't the oldest antique around here....duckin' and runnin'........ :eek: :D ;) :p

I'm 50. Does that make me the oldest dumbass here? :D

I was 9 or 10 when the Camaro came out.....we've kinda' grown up together....

Scott's about a year older than me, so I ain't the oldest antique around here....duckin' and runnin'........ :eek: :D ;) :p
Hey Doug,
You and Nikivee can relax - I'm 55 - and being of that "vintage" has allowed me to retain a couple of very fond memories! :)
Like... driving one of the 602 original '67 Z/28s that was virtually fresh off the showroom floor. My buddy got it as a graduation present and I drove it the same day he took delivery. (couldn't figure out the "302" badge and why it didn't have power steering!?! :D )
... and then finding out that this hot 18 year-old babe who lived across the street came home (her mom's) with a '67 Camaro ragtop one day (327 - 210 HP with a PowerS lide) and she asked me to teach her to drive!! :D
Those "driving" lessons kinda helped me "grow up" with Camaro as well!! :cool:

Best regardSS,

Elie

Not to be a rumor monger and drag this thread on forever... ah heck... why not?

A friend of a friend says he recently saw a prototype of a certain Zeta coupe in Detroit. :eek:

Maybe we need to lighten up on old iCE. ;)

Its official...this thread is a waste of bandwidth!

Its official...this thread is a waste of bandwidth!

Maybe not. It forced me to dig up some old information and actually sit down and put two and two together.

Maybe the problem is some people never lost "faith". :D

First post here. I've been to a couple sites looking for more info, gminsidenews and cheersandgears. Doesn't seem to be anything concrete out there in regard to the next Camaro.

I have two GM products, a Tahoe Z71 and an H2 SUT. I love both of them. I think they are good products and feel good about supporting a company who has it's roots here (even though my motors are hecho en Mehico) At least they were built in Texas and Indiana. I also have a foreign sports car that I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sell and want to get into a sports car that has an actual usable back seat. I'd prefer it be a GM product.

I kinda like the new Mustang and have driven an auto V8. But I was pretty much uninspired by it and the quality of the interior was a big cost cutting measure. The body of the car looks a little fat to me. Anxious to see what the Cobra or Shelby numbers and appearance will be like.

If GM builds the Camaro then my vote is for the one in the popular hot rodding article. :D

Ya'll crack me up, but seriously how is this thread still going. LOL ;)

talk about a popular thread. and capdog or whatever, no, i still did not take the time to read your post. learn how to make a point instead of rambling on and on. u should really try again though lol.

Ya'll crack me up, but seriously how is this thread still going. LOL ;)
A good messageboard needs threads like this every once in a while :)



bump!

Ok lets play devil's advocate for a minute. Lets go out on a limb....a REALLY big limb, and say that iCE does happen to know *someone* at GM. This someone has stumbled across some information concerning the 5th gen, probably something we already know, and tells iCE about it. Obviously iCE (nor his source for that matter) spend much time on this forum or cheers and gears or they would know that we already have said info.....So with this in mind lets not be too hard on the idea, after all we ALL want our favorite car to return. Arguing over the semantics of it all does seem a little pointless.
Not to be a rumor monger and drag this thread on forever... ah heck... why not?

A friend of a friend says he recently saw a prototype of a certain Zeta coupe in Detroit. :eek:

Maybe we need to lighten up on old iCE. ;)

I'll be the 1st to agree that there's probally a Zeta engineering prototype or 2 running around GM proving grounds, either here or in Australia. Including at least a sedan & a coupe. I'd be skeptical and probally would call :BS: about someone seeing a camoflaged car at this point, let alone a fully designed running car.

First post here. I've been to a couple sites looking for more info, gminsidenews and cheersandgears. Doesn't seem to be anything concrete out there in regard to the next Camaro...

I kinda like the new Mustang and have driven an auto V8. But I was pretty much uninspired by it and the quality of the interior was a big cost cutting measure. The body of the car looks a little fat to me...

If GM builds the Camaro then my vote is for the one in the popular hot rodding article. :D

1. Welcome to what is likely one of the best places to get info on future cars.

2. You won't see anything concrete on the Camaro till it's actually unveiled. Be advised, that there's a very good reason why you can easily get confirmation of the next GTO, but you won't Camaro. Let's leave it at the fact that begining with 2007's new Buick sports sedan, there will be a series of new RWD cars and performance coupes based on a RWD chassis.

3. Cheers and Gears as well as GM Inside news are also very good places to get inside info on cars. Alot of industry people post on all 3 sites. ;)

4. Although I think the new Mustang interior is a smigen claustrophobic and utilitarian, it's quality and attention to detail is very impressive for the price their selling at. Especially when compared to previous gen Mustangs and 4th gen F-bodies.

5. Chris Horton (the guy who does artwork for Poupular Hot Rodding) unfortunately isn't a GM designer (besides, the car in question was probally already designed, given GM's traditional timelines).

You spell claustrophobic and utilitarian correctly and use "probally" twice?

........

4. Although I think the new Mustang interior is a smigen claustrophobic and utilitarian, it's quality and attention to detail is very impressive for the price their selling at. Especially when compared to previous gen Mustangs and 4th gen F-bodies.....

Guy, I have to strongly disagree with you here....

I sat in two different Mustang models in Chcago and was agast at the LACK of quality I saw and felt.

The shifter felt and looked like something out of a toy. Cheap plastic with visible parting lines on TOP of the plastic shifter handle....felt like 25 cents.....the emergency brake handle was, not only on the wrong side of the console, IMHO, it too felt horribly cheap and flimsy....with a plain rubber handle.

Guage readability was destroyed by the canyon deep bezels and black faces.

The top of the dash is too thin and hard plastic.

I was totally underwhelmed by the Mustang's interior.....

I'd be skeptical and probally would call :BS: about someone seeing a camoflaged car at this point, let alone a fully designed running car.





Absolutely agree. If there is a mule or two, you'd never know it by their sheetmetal.

Yep, never go for 18-30 year olds.

I call those "the lobotomy years" for women.


LMAO! Very true.

You spell claustrophobic and utilitarian correctly and use "probally" twice?


YOU are hereby fined $2 for being an onlineintrawebnet anal-retentive spelling nanny. Pays up biznatch.

iCE I made my point, it is not to long I worte the point "s" I was making, if you took the time to actually read alot of stuff and take a time out, you would see this thread would not need to even be here since you would of sat down and read the long stuff and the short stuff...so by you saying what you said this thread is pointless..

meaning there is no 2006-07 Camaro comming out...but there is a 2007-08 Chevy coupe in the works...

Is that not what this thread was started about? not what the car was or working on but TIMELINE??

Absolutely agree. If there is a mule or two, you'd never know it by their sheetmetal.

I'm not sure if it was a mule, a running prototype, or a clay model. Maybe I can dig up more info from my "friend".

Regardless, with Pontiac having at least two Zeta coupes by the end of the decade (GTO, G8), and Buick coming in with as many as three (Roadmaster, Velite, Riviera?); why is it so impossible to fathom Chevrolet having two Zetas?

Going back to what this "friend" saw and heard, the two Zetas carried historically significant names, with the one that he saw having a name many here would be most interested in. ;)

I'm not sure if it was a mule, a running prototype, or a clay model. Maybe I can dig up more info from my "friend".

Regardless, with Pontiac having at least two Zeta coupes by the end of the decade (GTO, G8), and Buick coming in with as many as three (Roadmaster, Velite, Riviera?); why is it so impossible to fathom Chevrolet having two Zetas?

Going back to what this "friend" saw and heard, the two Zetas carried historically significant names, with the one that he saw having a name many here would be most interested in. ;)

Couple of things, the G8 won't be a coupe, but a sedan and the Velite/Riviera are the same car....with a Buick name to be determined.

It's not impossible to fathom 2 Chevy Zetas. I've heard talk of a sedan also. But the Chevy coupe which started as a ponycar.......and de-evolved into a two door intermediate, is THE one that will hopefully re-evolve into a ponycar. We'll see how things turn out. But if you're thinking about a RWD replacement for MonteCarlo, that may happen.......but it's gonna be a loooooooong time from now.

But if you're thinking about a RWD replacement for MonteCarlo, that may happen.......but it's gonna be a loooooooong time from now.

The name I was told wasn't Monte Carlo... :D

iCE- did you attend Richland College a couple years ago? The Z in your sig link looks really familiar...

what a small world. yeah a while back i sure did.

Ha! Wild....those bright red subframes are what caught my attention...

I used to drive the purple pearl Formula w/ LG wheels & a Trans Am hatch/spoiler. Perhaps you noticed it parked way out in left field from time to time...

Anyhow....back on topic...you're a troll...blah blah blah ;) :p

The name I was told wasn't Monte Carlo... :D

Corvair? :p :p :p


Chevelle perhaps?

from http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0409phr_camaro/


It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.

When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!

Once again, GuionM is Guy Mccoy - he contributed to that popular hot rodding article. He posts in 50% of all the 5th gen posts in this forum.

Yeah, PLEASE SEARCH before you post in this forum!!! It gets annoying readin old news OVER AND OVER again!

ya, i noticed your ugly purple pony car lol. you like girl colors huh :) since im such a troll, why dont we meet up this weekend so you can talk some **** to my face. I know a great place on 75 and 190 that has a big parking lot. pm me a good time for you. you will know what car I will be in. unless I bust a wheelie in your face with my new JIGXXXXER bitch

Oh my god.................we're still feeding this guy?:confused:

Lock? Maybe....



Please?

unless I bust a wheelie in your face with my new JIGXXXXER bitch

Well, the average age of this forum just dropped a few years.

Your'e not kidding! LOL!!! :D

ya, i noticed your ugly purple pony car lol. you like girl colors huh :) since im such a troll, why dont we meet up this weekend so you can talk some **** to my face. I know a great place on 75 and 190 that has a big parking lot. pm me a good time for you. you will know what car I will be in. unless I bust a wheelie in your face with my new JIGXXXXER bitch

sarcasm, ever heard of it? I was joking......hence the smilies:

Anyhow....back on topic...you're a troll...blah blah blah ;) :p

calm the **** down

DAMN.....this thing is still goin....WOW i can tell this ant on the new camaro...lol

<<Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant>>



I don't think so...

ya, i noticed your ugly purple pony car lol. you like girl colors huh :) since im such a troll, why dont we meet up this weekend so you can talk some **** to my face. I know a great place on 75 and 190 that has a big parking lot. pm me a good time for you. you will know what car I will be in. unless I bust a wheelie in your face with my new JIGXXXXER bitch

Leave this web site and don't come back. This is clearly not the kind of web site that you should be going to.