Pontiac G6 coupe GXP info?

Are there any rumors or info on the G6 Coupe's GXP version?

What Motor? What trans? Any idea on styling Changes?

DOHC 3.6L V6 with 6 speed manual

http://www.autosite.com/Previews/2006-pontiac-g6-gxp.asp

If GM can't get the 3.6L to put out 275HP then they should go with another engine like a S/C 3500 or wait for the 3.8L DOHC V6

DOHC 3.6L V6 with 6 speed manual

:tired: It will be a high 14 sec. car with limited mod potential.

:tired: It will be a high 14 sec. car with limited mod potential.


Just like that ONE nissan motor thats in every car they make. Oh and about as mod friendly as Honda/Acura products.

:tired: It will be a high 14 sec. car with limited mod potential.

With that engine the G6 would have about the same HP/lbs. ratio as an LT1 Camaro.

Indeed...limited mod potential because, well, the car isn't even out yet for parts makers to even make parts for them :rolleyes:

Indeed, I think the power/weight ratio is actually better than an LT-1, and I would bet on mid 14s for sure, to start with. Hardly what I would call borrowing.

What, because it doesn't have AWD and isn't a $30k+ econo car its boring? Hardly.

Come on, lets not dismiss a product that isn't out and we don't know very much about. If GM does this baby right, it will be awesome.

A 260-270hp and a 6spd manual with future 6spd auto would be awesome for this coupe, not to mention the sedan and hard top. Maybe some of this Opel/Saturn stuff will trickled on over to Pontiac.

What, because it doesn't have AWD and isn't a $30k+ econo car its boring? Hardly.
No, its the fact that you're going to have to spend some serious cash to get this in to the 13's. Had they made it a turbo 6 like what was mentioned back in the day, 13's would only be a $300 flash away.

It's a great sporty car for the ladies, though, and isn't that what the grand am is all about?

So you think its boring because it doesn't run 13s? Gimme a break...

I guess "GXP" doesn't mean that much, then. Bland looks, good but not great performance numbers, and little aftermarket potential. Like I said, its a nice sporty car, but nothing that really gets your blood flowing. My $.02 anyways.

I don't quite follow your thinking on how you say that because it doesn't have forced induction... it will never have a good aftermarket or aftermarket potential. The sales will create the aftermarket. If people want it... they'll get it. There is such a thing as an aftermarket for vehicles that don't have turbos.

I don't know, what NA 6cyl. has a big following? V8's or forced induction 4's and 6's seem to be where its at. Lots of people buy the current grand am GT's and mod them, but 99% never make it out of the 15's which has translated into very little street cred. There just arn't many cheap hp mods available with a NA 6. Its a real nice car, but I would expect more out of the "GXP" edition from the divison of "driving excitement"

I don't know, what NA 6cyl. has a big following? V8's or forced induction 4's and 6's seem to be where its at. Lots of people buy the current grand am GT's and mod them, but 99% never make it out of the 15's which has translated into very little street cred. There just arn't many cheap hp mods available with a NA 6. Its a real nice car, but I would expect more out of the "GXP" edition from the divison of "driving excitement"

I know the VQ series from Nissan has a great following. The 3800 is Definately a realiable NA motor that makes good if not great HP and it has been around, in various forms, since the 50s. Lets not be so quick to dismiss something just because it isn't turbocharged or supercharged. BTW I have a NA 3.4 from GM that will kill most other similar displacement na v6s, wanna know now then just ask.

I don't know, what NA 6cyl. has a big following? V8's or forced induction 4's and 6's seem to be where its at. Lots of people buy the current grand am GT's and mod them, but 99% never make it out of the 15's which has translated into very little street cred. There just arn't many cheap hp mods available with a NA 6. Its a real nice car, but I would expect more out of the "GXP" edition from the divison of "driving excitement"


When is the last time Honda made a forced induction car? They have a good sized aftermarket. People seem to like the Nissan DOHC V6 as well.

I know the VQ series from Nissan has a great following.
Ahhh, but they don't start puting out any real power untill you put on a super/turbo kit which is $4,000+
The 3800 is Definately a realiable NA motor that makes good if not great HP and it has been around, in various forms, since the 50s. Lets not be so quick to dismiss something just because it isn't turbocharged or supercharged.
well, the only 3800 engine that any enthusiast would work with is the supercharged version
BTW I have a NA 3.4 from GM that will kill most other similar displacement na v6s, wanna know now then just ask.
Let me have it, what have you done and what is it running?

I don't think the guys at V6fbody.com would agree with you there.

Different people have different interpretations of what "Real Power" is anyway. For a lot of the honda peeps... 210 hp is huge, unless they're running 16lbs of boost. But they still have lousy torque in comparison to a HO V6.

I think the problem with creating an aftermarket for a lot of GM's V6's is more because of the lousy drivetrains they are pinned too. The 3.4 DOHC had the potential of making well over 250hp in its day.... what stopped it? The transmission. Some auto makers are using AWD... which has it's merits... but thats more parts to break and service.. not to mention the weight factor of it all.

If GM could get a good tranny behind any of their V6's... they'd probably find more people looking for more HP... Hell, I'd like to mod the V6 in my van just for the hell of it.... but it's already on it's second transmission... and thats with just with 180hp. But it's scary to have to worry about that darn thing blowing up.

Ahhh, but they don't start puting out any real power untill you put on a super/turbo kit which is $4,000+
Well what do you consider "real power"? I think that is a determining factor in seeing what is needed. BTW I think the 290+ hp NA 3.5 VQ puts out as much or more power than a stock EVO does so I think that covers "real power."
well, the only 3800 engine that any enthusiast would work with is the supercharged version

Not true the 3800 na has quite a few performance mods that can be done to it. True that a supercharged version is easier to extract power out of, and will respond better to most if not all mods, but that doesn't disqulaify the fact that the 3800 NA v6 is a good motor and enough for many to be happy with.

Let me have it, what have you done and what is it running?

I have a Stock 3.4 LQ1 DOHC V6 in a 97 Monte Carlo. I don't have a clue what it runs because it is not a race car and should not be confused with one. Just because I happen to have bought the more powerful optioned engine doesn't mean I am going to race it.

BTW the 3.4 OHV puts out 185hp and my 3.4 DOHC puts out 215 so I out power it. But if we compare the 3.6 VVT DOHC found in the CTS we would get 265 hp. I said a 3.4 NA vs at 3.4 NA I said nothing about valve configuration or modifications.

Also lets see how well the Australian aftermarket does with the 3.8 DOHC 60° V6 in the VZ series V cars and how well it trasnferrs over to the Zeta Cars before we talk about NA performance cars and their lack of power.
What do you consider "real power

I would say you should look at times rather than peak power. 13's are where I would say a street car is "fast." FWIW, my turbo 2.0L dynoed at a bit over 300hp at the crank stock. A flash and exhaust put it up around 350. $2,000 will get a stock evo into the mid 12's. What can you do with the 3.5 VQ to get more power? Exhaust and intake are good for a few ponies, maybe a cam for a few more. Now you've spent $1500 for a 25hp increase with not much else to do and your stuck in the high 13's. Stock V8 mustangs will still take you.

I owned a 3.4 Alero with which I put exhaust, lighter wheels, and intake on. I then had a low 15 second car :bow: . I could have ported/polished for a marginal gain, but the only way to get some real power out of it was to put on the supercharger kit which, as MagnaPilot said, would have fried the transmission in short order.

Back on topic: Pontiac is supposed to be GM's "Excitement Division" I would say that the G6 is pontiac's bread and butter car and would expect that the "GXP" version of it to really make a statement about what the division is about. As is, it doesn't. It's about 80% of what it needs to be.