100w and 80w 9005 9006 headlights?

crittersred94z
12-31-2004, 03:32 PM
i'm tring to spend all the Chrismas $$$ on the car and i got these... i know how to switch out the bulbs out of the casing and all that fun stuff. I just need to know if it will just bolt up without burning the car to the ground... as much as i like fire...i don't want it on the car. thanks in advance.. 1oow and 80w http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7944616736&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

crittersred94z
01-01-2005, 03:47 PM
ttt... come on people

Z28Nut
01-02-2005, 11:47 AM
I'm gonna hazard a guess here. . . You're modifying the factory 4351 and 4352 headlights for higher wattage bulbs, right?

Heat is definitely going to be an issue. I don't think the housings will melt down but it will definitely affect your bulb life. I've run high wattage bulbs in aftermarket aux lights and they never last as long as the original bulbs. Since your install will involve more than just popping a clip to change bulbs, make sure what you use to fix the bulbs in the housing is very temperature resistant yet will be easy to remove when the bulb dies. I've replaced 100w bulbs in large off road lights in less than a month.

Good luck with this. You are also just making a lousy beam pattern brighter, it's not going to improve the headlights optics. You should think about upgrading the lights themselves to Hella FF75. Not much more difficult than what you are attempting and much better light than the stock housings could ever achieve. A lot of folks have done the FF75 install and love 'em. They look a lot better, too.

shouldaboughtthez
01-02-2005, 12:32 PM
Hella FF75

Are these bulbs to replace the stock headlight bulbs? I checked ebay and say nothing but fog lamps.

Z28Nut
01-02-2005, 12:48 PM
FF75s are available in fog or driving beam pattern. These require the removal of the fatory lights and mounting buckets and replace them. It is not a 'bolt in replacement' but is a fairly easy mod. I went with Hella 90mm units but that is a much more involved install. There is alot more information about it here:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62272

Try a search for 'FF75 install'

Here's an install guide:

http://wyland.cz28.com/ff75.htm

A set of FF75 fog lights in the stock fog location looks great with this mod. Here's a link for making the new brackets to do this:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328722

Just note that the Hella FF75 driving lights aren't DOT legal for use as a headlight but most of the folks that have done this mod haven't had any trouble as long as they aim the lights properly.

crittersred94z
01-02-2005, 02:22 PM
i'm simply taking the bulb out of the stock headlight low and high beams and replacing with the bulbs in the link... not the fogt lights. But your saying the problem with illumination is the housing itself? Not the bulbs?

white/blackss
01-02-2005, 03:16 PM
i absolutly love my sylvania silver stars, i buy them for every car i own, there great, and they really do give you a brighter, whiter light.

they also greatly improve the light pattern, for only 20.00 ea. and you can find them at any autoparts store. i would recomend these to everyone :)

Z28Nut
01-02-2005, 04:40 PM
white/blackss -- The 93-97 Camaros use 4351 and 4352 sealed beams. I don't see these listed for the Silverstars.

crittersred94z -- The brighter bulbs will help somewhat in brightness but will not improve the beam pattern of the stock reflector/lense sealed beam. Everybody seems to think brighter bulbs will make a huge difference. They won't. It's the design of the reflector and lense that makes the huge difference. I use 65w H-9 bulbs in my Hellas and can see so much better at night than before. The bulbs in my FF50 fog lights are H-7 55w (whatever came in them) and those alone are better than the factory fogs AND lowbeams. IMO you are pretty much throwing money away that you could invest in real lights.

white/blackss
01-02-2005, 11:17 PM
sorry, i keep forgetting that my car has the 2001 front end on it. :rolleyes:

teke184
01-03-2005, 07:38 AM
i think the main problem with running any higher wattage bulb will be the added stress on the wiring harness. they are designed to only run about 60watts of power.

so 100/80 would be quite a jump. could work for a while but would probably eventually burn the harness up.

Painless wiring makes an upgrade harness, draws power directly from the battery through a relay that is activated by the stock harness. this way the harness isn't overloaded and the bulbs are supplied with all the juice they need. i know that either Jegs or Summit carry it.

there is another company that makes them, since some people think Painless is crap, but i don't have the link here. get ahold of "BlackBowTie" and see if he can help you. or better yet do a search in the "Appearance" forum...tons of posts on this.

side info

there are no Sylvania Silverstars available for the sealed beam 93-97 headlights (that i know of), but you can buy the bulbs and take apart the sealed beam light and epoxy the Silverstars in to make it look just like stock. again this is discussed in the Appearance forum alot. i did it on my 96 and it was a very nice white light, but not particularly brighter since they are still near stock wattage.

Z28Nut
01-03-2005, 07:10 PM
sorry, i keep forgetting that my car has the 2001 front end on it. :rolleyes:

THAT would make it easier to use the 9005 & 9006's!! This was actually an option I considered to get better lights, lol!

teke184 -- great info. Had no idea Painless has an upgrade harness. I'm happy with the wattage on the lowbeams (65w) but have been thinking about bumping up the wattage on the highbeams.

Z28Nut
01-03-2005, 11:38 PM
Hmmm, can't find anything but 65w h9s on the web. Guess I'm gonna have to go HID :cool: