2002Z28SSConv 12-09-2004, 08:20 PM If anyone knows of anyone parting out an LS1 F body let me know. I need a K member, lower right A-arm, steering rack, right spindle, amd maybe an upper A-arm. My car finally gets sent to the shop on 1/3 and I need to get the suspension replaced by then so Gary can move it around easier.
I might also be interested in ANY body parts for LS1 Camaros. I'm planning on buying it all new but you never know. I'm also still looking for an LS1 drivetrain for my project car. I'll also consider truck drivetrains. They have to be GenIII small blocks though. The rest isn't that important.
Chuck
(407)718-3266
BTW - I've already left a message with Whistler.
VSGLS1 12-09-2004, 09:55 PM I will have the stock K member avail in a few weeks.
MustangEater82 12-09-2004, 10:11 PM Need 97+ tail lights?
2002Z28SSConv 12-09-2004, 10:16 PM This is what's still GOOD.
Left fender
Left door
Front bumper
Back bumper
SS Spoiler
Sorry Eric, all the lights are fine.
I'll also be needing a complete dash assembly with airbags intact.
And I have to have the K-member (or at least the other suspension parts) by next weekend so I can start working on getting it rolling again.
anasazi 12-09-2004, 10:24 PM wtf? i knew you got into a small fender bender but damn!
PICS! and a story to go with it! needing a whole new dash and half of a car is a bit more than a small incident at an autox
2002Z28SSConv 12-09-2004, 10:47 PM It was a bit more serious than that.
*** this is copied from another forum ***
To make a long story not quite so long, on my first fun run I lost control for whatever reason in the lane-change section of the course and went into a sideways slide. I was unable to regain control before striking the light pole and hydrant to the North side of the observation tower. Many factors contributed to the unfortunate incident such as very old race tires that should have been thrown out months ago, a minor flaw in the course design (that I actually suggested be put in - oops), over-confidence on my part, and who knows what else. Either way, I take full responsibility for what happened. I would also like to emphasize that the slide was in no way intentional! Jeff McElyea (Jeff94TA) was in the passenger seat and I am very thankful that he was able to walk away with only a bruised thigh from the hydrant hitting the door.
My Camaro SS slid perfectly sideways, simultaneously striking the hydrant with the passenger door and the concrete light pole with the front right wheel at about 15 MPH or so. The impact spun the car 180 degrees coming to rest behind the pole, which then fell across the back seating area. That was by far the hardest impact we felt. If we would have come to rest 2 feet more to the rear I nor Jeff would probably be here today. We were very lucky. If we would have been 4 feet more to the front Jeff would have received the pole in his side instead of the hydrant and who knows what the outcome of that would have been. Both airbags deployed but since the blow was from the right side, neither of us had our faces in a position to be injured from them. Of course the event was imediately halted so that officials from the Lake County site could shut off power and water service to the effected areas and assess the damage.
Car Details:
Damages are expected to be approaching the "totalled" limit but not quite hitting it. State Farm has been very cooperative and confirmed last week that all damages will be covered. We originally were holding back any public discussion to avoid any incorrect information being taken into consideration by insurance companies or site officials and making a bad situation even worse. We all know how some people get when they're anonomously surfing the web, sitting behind a keyboard and feel like showing the world that they know everything.
Even though just about every body panel on the car will have to be replaced, there is very little structural damage to the car. The strut tower brace actually saved the car by keeping the strut tower from collapsing in on the engine. (Best $79 I ever spent) The hood, right front fender, right door, right rocker panel, right rear quarter panel, trunk lid, left quarter panel, top frame, top canvas, dash(airbags) and windshield. will all have to be replaced. But the car is still square other than the right front strut tower being pushed directly to the left about 1/2". The windshied and dash were damaged exclusively by the airbag deployment. The steering knuckle was sheered off of the right spindle when it struck the pole, also twisting the tie-rod and bending the lower A-arm. The coolant reservoir and the battery wrap up the casualty list. All fixable and the car will, one day, be restored to 100%. (Maybe even better if I get to make the changes I'm planning) Due to the car's rarity, I was always afraid to change too much, because I wanted to preserve its originality. That's not as much of an issue anymore. lol That's another story anyway...
So... it's not likely to see anymore autox competition since I have bought a 1985 race-prepped Fiero. Maybe I'll run the SS again just once when it gets rebuilt. But we'll have to see.
*** Sorry I didn't tell you guys sooner.
Pics:
Birdseye view (http://www.musclecarsoforlando.100megs25.com/jeff/SSCamaro/Birdseye%20View.jpg)
Driver's side (http://www.musclecarsoforlando.100megs25.com/jeff/SSCamaro/Drivers%20Side.jpg)
Passenger side (http://www.musclecarsoforlando.100megs25.com/jeff/SSCamaro/Passenger%20Side.jpg)
Rear view (http://www.musclecarsoforlando.100megs25.com/jeff/SSCamaro/Rear%20View.jpg)
86 IROC 12-09-2004, 11:25 PM Very sorry to hear that, it seems like you just got it fixed not that long ago from the incedent w/ the trailer. :(
4U 2 NV 12-09-2004, 11:46 PM talk about luck....that pole looks like the only thing solid in the whole parking lot.
DanBUCF 12-10-2004, 01:11 AM Wow, I'm very sorry to hear all this Chuck. Just glad that everybody is ok. Cars are repairable...lives are not. I'm sure it'll be back in great condition before you even know it.
MustangEater82 12-10-2004, 02:23 AM Ouch didn't know it was that bad...
hope everything works out glad you guys made it out ok....
Erik 94TransAm 12-10-2004, 06:07 AM Wow, I'm very sorry to hear all this Chuck. Just glad that everybody is ok. Cars are repairable...lives are not. I'm sure it'll be back in great condition before you even know it.
Perfectly said, glad you made it out safely
2002Z28SSConv 12-10-2004, 07:07 AM Yep. Perspective is key in every situation. And the pole landing right behind our heads was really all the perspective adjustment I needed to not be too upset about the car. I'm still upset. Don't get me wrong. But I know it's only a temporary inconvenience that will be over in a couple of months.
Man! I do miss the car.
Joe 97RA 12-10-2004, 08:28 AM It was I have bought a 1985 race-prepped Fiero.
Love the cars and have an 84. What has been done to the suspension?
2002Z28SSConv 12-10-2004, 11:23 AM The spring perches have been moved, strut mounting locations slotted for adjustment, adjustable sway bars, adjustable lower arms, lowered so far it would never make it over a speed bump and probably more. It's completely gutted, no lights, passenger seat, wire harness or anything. The only wires in the car go to a NASCAR style toggle switch bracket that controls everything. It supposedly weighs just over 2,000 pounds but I haven't weighed it yet. It's pretty much a 3.1 V6 gokart.
MustangEater82 12-10-2004, 12:23 PM 3.1? pfft... drop a 3.4L in that thing, good 20-30 hp jump and ~20 lbs more torque:) build a custom frankensteing upper intake like the fiero guys do and you can get another 20-25 hp out of it stock. And still keep roughly the same weight :)
As for 3.4L blocks Joe may have one for slae some day. :)
Sorry for the rant I have been around v6s to long in my life, especially 60* v6s (2.8,3.1, 3.4)
2002Z28SSConv 12-10-2004, 06:16 PM 3.1? pfft... drop a 3.4L in that thing, good 20-30 hp jump and ~20 lbs more torque:) build a custom frankensteing upper intake like the fiero guys do and you can get another 20-25 hp out of it stock. And still keep roughly the same weight :)
As for 3.4L blocks Joe may have one for slae some day. :)
Sorry for the rant I have been around v6s to long in my life, especially 60* v6s (2.8,3.1, 3.4)
My original sceme included a 3800SC and a 5 speed but the rest of the car was already built so I've settled for the drivetrain that's in it for now. Someday... who knows. I'm gonna get more experience with the car before I start swapping engines and transmissions though. I'll let you know when I'm ready Eric. :D
Whistler 12-10-2004, 10:21 PM Chuck,
I still havent gotten any Camaro arts cars yet but I do have a lot of suspension parts left from the others. You can have a K member, both A arms with the spindle for $75 and the rack for $75.
2002Z28SSConv 12-10-2004, 11:22 PM Thanks! When can I pick them up?
Whistler 12-13-2004, 11:21 AM Give me a call on my cell 321-299-3913. I lost my phone with your # in it and just got it turned back on today.
MustangEater82 12-13-2004, 01:48 PM Out of curiousity demodding the car any... **coughcough"Swaybars"coughcough**
P.S. any chance the Yenisch kid is gonna go to school out of state or something :)
2002Z28SSConv 12-13-2004, 06:31 PM There is absolutely NO WAY it will be "de-modded"! In fact, I'm planning on having Bob Bishop C5 brakes, Bilstien shocks, custom paint, Z06 wheels, mantra hood scoop decal, berger type tail panel and possibly a bunch more horsepower too.
JimMueller 12-15-2004, 12:55 AM Out of curiousity demodding the car any... **coughcough"Swaybars"coughcough**
P.S. any chance the Yenisch kid is gonna go to school out of state or something :)
I haven't heard of Mini-Yenisch leaving the state anytime soon ;)
I've got a couple of extra sway bars laying around. What sizes interest you?
Chuck - don't bother asking Sam about those C5 brakes you won't like his opinion. He's witholding an official scolding for my purchase of the decoupled TA until he drives it in a few days. Any chance you may come out sometime Fri-Sun this weekend just to visit?
MustangEater82 12-15-2004, 01:48 AM I haven't heard of Mini-Yenisch leaving the state anytime soon ;)
I've got a couple of extra sway bars laying around. What sizes interest you?
Maybe we shoudl get the club to start him an out of state fund :). he only beat me by 1.3 seconds this time around, not too bad considering the differneces between cars and experience course that is with him hitting a cone...
As for sway bars... I am running 28/15, probably the softest setup on a 4th gen
Ideally I'd love 35/21 :) but willing to see whats around. Now might be a good time to swap out too cuz I am going to pull the front bar tomorrow for the track :)
btw cool pic of my car jason took
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_img_a/514505_148_full.jpg
2002Z28SSConv 12-15-2004, 05:55 AM ...Chuck - don't bother asking Sam about those C5 brakes you won't like his opinion...
Any chance you may come out sometime Fri-Sun this weekend just to visit?
They would have to be better than the stock brakes anyway. Plus since it isn't gonna see autocross duty anymore I'm not too worried about it having the ultimate handling/braking stuff. I'm doing all the mods I always wanted but were afraid to do. :D
As for this weekend, I wish I could but I'll be in N Fla hopefully installing a new Kmember and other suspension parts. I would have been there otherwise. It would have been great to be able to get the setup tweaked on the "FireoCracker".
2002Z28SSConv 12-25-2004, 01:28 AM Thanks Chris! I got the K-member, A-arm and steering rack swapped in this afternoon. The K-member bolted right in with minimal persuation. I was worried about the the car being bent and the new one not fitting but that wasn't the case. :D All it needs now to be running again is a battery and a passenger side sway bar mounting bracket.
Whoever said that swapping a K-member isn't a big deal, was lying through their teeth!
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