Hey guys Need your opinion??

Ok.... this is the deal. I have a one owner 77 corvette... good shape. And I have my 84 camaro (da beast).

Wife says the Camaro must go...seeing that I have 3 chevys I guess that makes sense. I drive my 2000 SS daily.

My thoughts are sell the 84... I have about 15K in it...for about 4500.00

Or remove the drive train swap cam and carb and put it in the vette? Sell the body for like 750.00 ( has new auburn rear with 4.11 subframes goood paint cowl hood 4th gen seats mega shifter, roll control etc etc....

The engine in the vette is orginal L48 base model 350 rated 180 HP I had fresh put bearings put in the bottom end about 5 years ago...no smoke no oil factory low compression... with comp 268 cam, factory smog heads, performer intake, mid america exhaust, and th350..... 750 holley vacuum carb.

The camaro you name it ...IT HAS It.... steel crank forged pistons Dart II heads roller cam MSD everything....175 NOS kit .060 over four bolt main block. 700R4 tranny.

I would change carb and cam to run more vacuum on the vette to support accessories....and I could have the 4 speed auto.... Or sell the camaro and start fresh with vette ...


Keep the short block get new heads and pimp the small goodies off the camaro...MSD....twim electric fans...etc etc...


HELP ME out... :eek:

Do you absolutely NEED to get rid of one of 'em? I say keep 'em. It sounds like you have way more ivested into the camaro. I wouldn't go as far as to call a 77 vette "rare" either. If you absloutely have to get rid of one of 'em, based on the fun factor alone, I would say keep the '84. Just my thoughts.
-Dan

its cool that the vette has an original engine, but personally i would swap the camaro drivetrain into the vette and sell the camaro body. you would have the sexyness of a C3 vette, along with the muscle of your old camaro

I can relate. I have a '77 vette and three '94 Z28's plus the wife's vehicle. Keeping the vette, selling a Z28, parting another, keeping a Z for myself.

I'd say if you're going to swap engines in the vette you might as well go all out and do like a 6spd and LT1 or even LS1 setup.

My vette is a blast to drive on nice days and always gets looks. I would love it ten times more if I had a 6spd and LT1 in it though.

I got out of Vettes a few years back so I can shed some light. The only way to recover any of your costs when you decide to part with the Vette is to have kept it stock. Regardless of how "common" a particular combination may be, the fact is people are usually standing in line to purchase nice examples of a stock Vette. Modified or butchered/used up can sit unsold for quite some time and usually turned for a loss. The value of a Vette is in it's originality. ;) If you can't live without rodding it, whatever you take off put in plastic bags with a photo, clearly marked for re-installation at a later time.

My personal opinion is leave the vette stock and hot rod something else.

My opinion, sell the 3rd gen. They are declining in value even more, so dont think of a 3rd gen as an investment. Either part it out and sell it, or sell as is for less. Parting out usually nets higher profit in my experiences.

If you dont need the money bad, invest the parts (what you keep) and or cash in the C3.

You could drop the drivetrain in the C3. Pull the 170HP L48. That would be fun. I love C3's as well, but it's not a rare car. I was gonna do a nasty C3 awhile back. Decided to go a different route instead. The only way it would ever be worth anything, is if it's 100% original then you would have to keep it awhile.

I say build it if you want. Thats probably what I would do in your case if I had the car and some parts.

Or sell both and buy something else....
Steve

Thanks for all the GREAT RESPONSES....

The thing is I will all ways have the vette. It was my father car, I have pics of me in the vette when I am just a small child. I learn to drive with this car... went to home coming and Prom in High School with. It is just a few years younger THAN ME!

The Camaro on the other hand was my First car I paid for myself (got from a friend of mine who move to the dark side when he graduated High School) a 89 5.0 GT 5-speed. I spanked him with his old car until he started modding it up. :D

I built the motor in the camaro myself back in 1998.... the car only has about 300,000 miles on the body... but this recent motor only has about 10K on it...Of course half those miles are more than likely hard miles. This car was my daily driver for 10 years...until I put this motor in it. I drove my NEW to me LT1 camaro for a daily until the end of 2000 when I got my brand new SS.

COST is not the major factor here but I would like to repaint the car with with some tasteful graphics painted on... I would like to be able to run at least low 13 with just NA power. (it is a vette) it will do 14.8 NOW! Not good enough for me. Driver Would BE YES! I will be fixing the AC hoses they rotted and upgrading to R-134... and I will be adding new interior trim and new carpet. I will do the carpet and trim myself. A/C and motor swap for a proffessional. WIFE doesn't want me to be tinkering in our garage :bow: The fact is I do not either, I rather pay somebody to deal with the headaches and lost hours of laboring of the project.

They way I look at it... the Camaro will provide the drive train... whether I sell it and buy a new crate motor or used LT1 or used LS1 w/ that new edelbrock Carb setup :eek: ...

Or just swap drivetrain and run a streetable roller instead of a Brutal Solid Roller.

I am not worried about the value on the VETTE... I will never sell it! I have the orginal sticker also! I know it is not popular or unique model year. 3rd high production year for a vette. But it is fun and I get more looks and comments. Imagine after I get it hooked up?

I am not worried about the value on the VETTE... I will never sell it! I have the orginal sticker also! I know it is not popular or unique model year. 3rd high production year for a vette. But it is fun and I get more looks and comments. Imagine after I get it hooked up?

Then whatever you do to it, take photos and put the original parts in bags. Yank the engine and trans, put in on a palate and put it away in storage. You'll want it later. ;) I built a 79 Black/black, L82 4 speed with 4:10s. The replacement motor was a basic honest 375 HP small block done up to look as close to stock as possible. The car ripped. That car was so much fun to blast through the gears. I really miss that car......

I'd do up the vette personally, never expect to get your money back out of it...

Only problem with the vette, you aren't a little guy and when my big ass, was looking at C3 vettes for a bit, yeah after 2-3 testdrives, I put C3s out of mind :)

Yeah it is a small car... with alot of weight, 3500 lb car :cry:

That is lil heavier than my 3rd gen!?!?

No matter the real issue is to swap or not to swap? THAT IS THE QUESTION? Hmmm...

I am afraid that it may be difficult selling my 3rd gen out right with the goodies? ANy opinions? I can post pics if somebody can host them??

Can u send me pics of the camaro if you decide to sell it. I may be interested.

In that case, keep the vette and build it up..

Good luck with it!
Steve

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Sorry to see that you may be getting rid of your camaro. Let me know if you use the engine from the thirdgen in your vette. I may be interested in buying the shell of your camaro, I need some parts for my car before I can paint it. I may also need a few other miscellaneous parts (I still have never fixed my brake booster).

Yeah I haven't been out to the junk yard lately to busy. I may try at first to sell the whole car...

I am sure I will start there.

Hey Sean! Your Vette looks really nice! I never saw you bring it to any shows. I say sell your body to Bobby (the Camaro body that is ;)!), sell your drivetrain out of the Vette AND the Camaro and buy a LS1 drivetrain off Chris and Charlie for it.

That's something you wouldn't regret, especially since it's your dad's car, that's awesome.

what would they want for a ls1 with a auto??

not sure want a good price is for the body....I have a year old rear with auburn posi and 4.11s....

For an ls1 with an auto and the wiring harness your probably looking at around $2400 to $2800. It really depends on mileage. Expect to pay more for a low mileage combo and less for a high mileage combo.

Depending on what you ask for your camaro as a whole, you probably won't have too much difficulty finding a buyer.

If I got a LS1 setup I would love that... I would probably run the new edelbrock intake w/ a carb...and a 2800 stall.... maybe a hotcam.

I'd go at least 3200 on the stall (anything less is pointless and with a good converter it will still drive normal) and screw the hotcam.

There are better cams out there for the price (I don't neccessarily mean bigger when I say better, just a better all around designed cam).

It's your choice on carb or fuel injection but I would stay fuel injected.

Bobby wired his car up just fine with the stock harness off the LS1. You would have to use a different transmission (or at least throw a vacuum modulator in there instead of the solenoid) if you were to get rid of the fuel injection and computer.

Since they have the parts readily available, it would probably be cheaper (and more gas and power efficient) to go with the stock fuel injection.

what do you mean by a different trans??

Okay the 3200 sounds good... and maybe leave the stock cam... a good 3200 stall will cost about 600-700 and probably run better times with the stall than the cam.

The 4L60-E that would come with the LS1 combo would be electronically controled by the computer. If you remove the computer and go to a carb then there is nothing to tell it when to shift.

Hence you would need a different tranny (4L60 or 700R4) or convert the 4L60-E by replacing it's solenoid with a vacuum modulator.

You are much better off using the stock fuel injection, tranny and computer.

I wouldn't keep the stock cam in there. I would definetly put a better cam in while I had it out.

The converter should only be about $300-$450 (that's getting one of Ken Well's or a slightly used Yank or Vigilante off the board).

I bought my cam used (who cares it's not going to be worn like a solid lifter cam) for $150.