bike vs lt1

the other night i ran a bike, quite interesting outcome. anyway this pack of like 8 bikes comes up and flys by me. so i catch up and we are pacing at like 90, then soem of them drop back and 3 of them gun it and jump ahead, and one of them stays right there next to me. so we hit it at 90, and he gets his back tire to my front bumper , then i slowly pull him in and put his front tire at my side mirror. at this time i was in od not saying how fast! anway i was about to pass then hte bikes ahead of us hit the brakes so we let off.
bike 0,, lt1 1
star the flaming now :D

good job. any idea what kind of bike it was, if not give a description.

I onced raced a bike on the highway, from like 50 roll. 2 out of 3 times I was pulling on him but it was fairly even. My car at the time was probably mid 13s. It was dark so I couldnt see what kind of bike it was and now that I have a bike I realize that it must have been a really weak bike for me to even stay in site much less pull on it. I still outran a bike in my car so thats good enough for me. Good kill.

I feel that. My buddy got some older Kawa 'Ninja' 250R. He is always like "Come on man! lets race!". All you have to say to someone with a bike like that is "Sure thing, you feeling an 80mph Roll-on?"

Haha.

What did the bike(s) look like? Did you catch a make?

i should have paid attention, but at them speeds i was looking straight ahead! only thing i noitced is that it was gold, probably a 600 or smaller. this might sound crazy but the lil huyabusa chinese letter on them bikes, this bike had somthing similar but i couldnt tellya with such a quick glance.
thanks for the replies guys... later

i raced a bike once.......once :p

i used to ride a 92 600 F2. it ran 11.21 @ 121 stock with a professional rider on it. i was low 12's at the highest i ran it was 145 ish. from out of the hole it would beat up on todays well modded ls1 and definately beat up on lt1's. from a roll on though was a different story. the first few gears were great but rolling from 3rd just did not have the pull of the bottom end. forget it if you started in 4th. it sounds to me like you ran a 600. once you got up to 900 cc or better you shouldnt' see anything but taillights. good kill.

david

i'm seeing a kan-o-tuna... good kill... those things make a good starter bike...

that was one slow ass bike...I had alot more mods then you and a zx7 passed me by on the hwy like i was driving a big wheel

Anyone thats feeling froggy can race my 04 GSXR 1000........

Anyone thats feeling froggy can race my 04 GSXR 1000........

Duly Noted.

i was figuring that it was a 600 or smaller! or the guy just didnt drop a gear but who knows, but next time ( if there is) i will definetly look at the bike b4 i run it! thanks for the replies guys. later

Got it to run a 9.7 in the 1/4, bike stock makes 156 rwhp 180 at the flywheel. Although it was never put on a dyno, with the power commander, full exhaust, and timing retard it most likely made somwhere around 165-170 rwhp. Also i have the the race fairings on it, ohlins forks and rear coil over as well as carbon fiber wheels. Wet weight is ~370lbs stock.....mine weighs 327lbs. Id get a faster run out of it if i had a wheelie bar.....its a pain to keep on the ground! But like i said....my camaro is FAST...but my bike is to!

Anyone thats feeling froggy can race my 04 GSXR 1000........


I'm feeling froggy!

2003 Hayabusa, full exhaust, small airbox mod, short throttle body stacks, Timing Retard Eliminator, BMC Race filter, Webb Cams, 40 dry shot nitrous, lowered front and rear.....

ok where is the turbo busa that's on here to shut me up...lol

Im feelin' froggy-1991 Huffy Durt Dog, green and black paint so you wont even see me coming! :bow:

Any day you want to race that road bus through palomar or up through julian or hell california speedway or the track of your choice let me know......Busa is good in a straight line and thats about it. And not to knock your bike but i kill busa's down the 1/4, mainly because people that own them dont know how to drive them but it will suffice for me! There to heavy. And if were talking power adders, let me add cams and a turbo kit from Hahn Racecraft and ill be sitting at 300 rwhp and alot better handling. you need a wheelie bar to use the power you have..if you dont have one your just wasting money on power you cant use.

Any day you want to race that road bus through palomar or up through julian or hell california speedway or the track of your choice let me know......Busa is good in a straight line and thats about it. And not to knock your bike but i kill busa's down the 1/4, mainly because people that own them dont know how to drive them but it will suffice for me! There to heavy. And if were talking power adders, let me add cams and a turbo kit from Hahn Racecraft and ill be sitting at 300 rwhp and alot better handling. you need a wheelie bar to use the power you have..if you dont have one your just wasting money on power you cant use.

All of a sudden you have turned your offering into a race that would be to your advantage against a certain vehicle. I am sure that if one of these cars wanted to race you it would be a roll or a 1/4 race, but now when it's something that will flat out leave you in a roll or is better suited for the 1/4 you change it to your advantage..lol.

You give the typical answer for a person with a litre bike when the Busa vs litre bike subject comes up. It's one of three things, 1. it can't handle, 2. It's fat, 3. it's ugly.

Mod for mod the GSXR1000 will never hang with the Busa. You can come close to the peak HP of a Busa with the same mods but peak is only one spot, it's how you make your power that will be the advantage(and in the GSXR's case disadvantage). I can post a comparison dyno chart if you want to see what I mean. You will also always be at a torque disadvantage.

As far as my bike needing a wheelie bar I don't know where you get this information from. I know many people that race turbo bikes and nitrous bikes in the 1/4 and none of them use a wheelie bar, you are talking almost three times the power I have. My bike is lowered front and rear and never has a problem with wheelies in the 1/4.

One more thing is that you can put a turbo on your bike, that would be great, but you better change some internals otherwise your going to smoke your motor rather quickly. This is another nice thing about the Busa, you can put a turbo kit on a bone stock motor, get 300hp out of it and never have to touch the engine. If you want to get into the engine you are able to get over 500HP, some are even close to 600.

I agree that the GSXR is great in the corners, but from the sounds of it that was not what you were talking about. In a straight line the Hayabusa, with equal riders and the bikes set up the same way, will smoke the GSXR every time. The Hayabusa is not a slouch in the corners, just not as good as the super bikes. I have smoked a GSXR1000 in the tight stuff and been smoked by many 600's. It's all about the rider and if he can utilize the abilities of his/her bike.

As much as I respect both of your bikes, Its time to lay down the law. I have an '04 Razor scooter. Chrome with that little blue rubber Deck-Stripe. Weight reduction (Lean Cuisines for dinner), 1.5" Polyurethane DRs, Nitrous (I do whippets before i race), Big Bore Kit (I work out), and a handleing package (I wrapped some electrical tape around the handle bars).

I think that the best way to settle this is a roll-on from 80mph. Whoever is closest behind me when we hit 120 wins :)

Sorry, just seems like this is going to turn into a thread-o-fire real soon.

Don't take me the wrong way I'm not pissed or irritated or anything, just stating the facts. Might have sounded like I was getting upset, and that's the ****ty part about the internet, you can't see emotion or hear tone of voice.

I'll race you scooter, but only if you give me the jump.

Busa413 makes a good point. I was just at Smackdown @ Norwalk (OH), and there where a few turbo busas' out there. A lazy launch, and trying to keep the front tire on the ground they where trapping arround 169 MPH. My best time with my 04 R-6 w/slip on was 11.12 @ 126. I dynoed it stock, and it had 103 RWHP with 600 mi on it, so guess 2 hp for the slip on.

First off let me appologize if any of my statements sounded harsh or out of line. They were not meant to. Second, i am not taking anything away from the busa, it is a bad A$$ bike, no doubt. But in my experience let it be on the street or on the track they just have not been able to hang with me. Sure in a straight up drag race i would get murdered, but lets get realistic for a min. People do not buy crotch rockets to drag race, atleast no one i ride with did. Most people like them for there ability to take kindly to the twisties. Now the busa does a good job at this as well but every single time one has tried to race me through the canyons he has gotten killed. Ive ridden them myself and personally i feel this is just because they are to heavy, i honestly did not like it, it seemed sloppy. OH......and i have no clue how the hell you keep your bike on the ground down the drag strip because at full throttle im coming up out of the hole and into second gear and mine is lowered 1" from stock height. So please dont get me wrong, im not bashing the busa, i mean were both from the same family here so that wouldnt make sense anyways. Just from my experience, ill stick with the litre bikes. Oh.....and for an update....a full rebuild from JDM racing and a turbo from Hahn racecraft is in the works for the near future.

Don't worry man I didn't think you were being harsh at all. There are different types of sport bikes and most of the time people buy them for what they are built for, again most of the time. The Busa was originally built for one thing, straight out top speed king, but it just so happens that it makes a great 1/4 mile bike and hell even a touring bike. They are a heavy bike, mostly due to the motor. The motor is actually in a very low state of tune, they don't recommend you run anything higher than regular unleaded and the engine has lots of room for increased cc's, over 1500cc's is not all that uncommon.

The reason your bike comes up so hard compaired to my bike is that; 1, your bike has almost 100 pounds lighter, mostly in the front end. 2. The wheel base is shorter than the Busa.

If I could have two bikes I would most likely have a GSXR1000 along side mine, but for what I do and how I like to ride the Busa just fits me better. It is one of the most comfortable sport bikes out there.

I too was thinking about going turbo over the winter, but have decided not to. I am going to do a lot more drag racing next year and have decided to go with a nitrous setup. The power hits so much quicker than a turbo. When you have a turbo bike and a Nitrous bike lined up with equal power the Nitrous bike will usually walk the turbo bike (due to lag). If I wasn't going to do so much strip time next year I would be going turbo though, much more fun on the street.

Again man, I didn't think you were being harsh at all.