This is sad

Not a single thread about a Camaro on the entire front page of the 5th gen section of a Camaro web site. Way to go Zarella.

My bad, there is one, the one about the naming problem. But still :(

There are 2 stickies at the top, but I see what you are saying.

Some people "in the know" (wink wink) need to throw us a bone.

ehh who cares there r new Charger pics :D

at least other companies are making RWD V8 peformance proucts for the masses :D

Not a single thread about a Camaro on the entire front page of the 5th gen section of a Camaro web site. Way to go Zarella.

I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe the Torana thread hits closest to home.

I'd love to see something new about the Camaro, but Ford has just released a barrage <sp?> of news on the Mustang, sorry!

The Torrana threads alone should keep you company. Im sure with the upcoming Sydney Autoshow, this site will be chock full of Pro-Kappa and Pro-Zeta wars...much like the SS vs Z28 battles.

Not a single thread about a Camaro on the entire front page of the 5th gen section of a Camaro web site. Way to go Zarella.

Actually, way to go Lutz is more like it. Personally, I see less and less hope for an affordable, attractive and exciting 5th generation F-body.

it has to be affordable, attractive AND exciting? I dont think Chevy can do all of thoes 3!! Not without going retro!! :rolleyes:

Nothing big or groundbreaking as far as 5th gen news. GM refuses to toss us a bone, and there's really nothing new to discuss on the 5th that hasn't already been discussed half a dozen times.

Actually, way to go Lutz is more like it. Personally, I see less and less hope for an affordable, attractive and exciting 5th generation F-body.
I especially like how he said, "The Firebird's day is done (gone?)."

:mad:

GM, for the most part, seems to be doing nothing but self destructing. They haven't learned from the hundreds of other successful car manufacturers.... Inexpensive car = SALE.

Look at Hyundai as an example. A car company that was lowest of the low 10-15 years ago. Now its making cars that the masses (again, for the most part) like. Heck, Look at the Sonata for example. They are pitching this car as a sort of luxury car. Its base is only $16000!! I personally think Hyundai and think garbage, but that may be a stereotype I have to get over. Seems the Korean cars and the like in the inexpensive market are actually starting to produce something better. Not saying they're great, but look at what they are doing...

Sonata: http://hyundaiusa.com/Vehicles/Sonata/Main.asp

Kia Optima: http://kia.com/images/optima/2004-10.jpg
http://kia.com/images/optima/2003-14.jpg

Again, not saying they're pefect but geez, come on... Look at Chevy for example, what are they currently making that fits this market? The odd looking Malibu? Starting price base model $19000? I think not for a car like that.

They are selling cars that appeal to more people, either on a cost, luxury, feature or warranty level... Come on GM, look around you...

Most of this is geared towards Chevy. I genuinly think Pontiac and Cadillac are headed in the right direction but I mean come on, CHEVY, an American nameplate as big as that hasn't put any thought into their current cars... I used to consider myself a "CHEVY" guy... I'm not even proud to call myself that these days when talking about new cars. That being said, I think Chevy's in real trouble.

food for though. if you had pics or seen the next gen rwd coupe, would you show them to everyone. i woulnd't because i know they would be 100x happier and suprised if they saw it at an unvailing.

it has to be affordable, attractive AND exciting? I dont think Chevy can do all of thoes 3!! Not without going retro!! :rolleyes:

Oh, I dunno 'bout that. I think the Solstice has all three bases covered, or at least will when the hypo version is released.

food for though. if you had pics or seen the next gen rwd coupe, would you show them to everyone. i woulnd't because i know they would be 100x happier and suprised if they saw it at an unvailing.

I would show them, why do you think we are all here.

Easy answer

Chrysler and Ford = lotsa buzz at the moment with the mustang and a RWD perf. dodge coupe that sadly will probaly be released before we even see a Camaro concept car .

Easy answer

Chrysler and Ford = lotsa buzz at the moment with the mustang and a RWD perf. dodge coupe that sadly will probaly be released before we even see a Camaro concept car .

Very true. We'll have our day in the sun, but it wont be till at least late '06-'07. :(

I hope GM see's this. I hope that it festers in their accountant's portfolios and marketing geniuses brains that they have no performance car that once loyal GM owners like myself would consider buying in the $22-25K range. I hope Ford and Chrysler surpasses GM in overall sales. I hope Mustangs and Chargers, F-series and Rams start filling up the employee parking lots at GM. But I still hope I'll be making enough money in the future that I could afford a new GTO or Vette. :D