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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Lightbulb Autoweeks latest editorial raises some interesting points...

I found this to be ineresting.......from a few standpoints.

The latest Autoweek article quoted a GM person saying said we might have killed the Camaro by asking for more power thereby threatening the Corvette So even GM admits that the Corvette is holding us back...

But, it also said that Rick et.al. were still trying to keep the flame alive!!

Sorry this is a 316kb scan of the article, since I don't think it's available on-line yet....9/30/02 dateline.


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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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What a bunch of bull. GM has given us a Corvette engine every year since, what, the late 80's? And only now this is an excuse? We're already peeved enough about this situation, then someone has the gall to blame us???? Ok, deep breath.....
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Thumbs down

I'll also call on that one.

Typhoon, Syclone, GNX, T/A 6.6, ALL were capable of beating same year Corvettes. Also, since the Iroc 350, Camaros had Corvette engines.

There is typically a half second spread in the 0-60 run & an almost 1 second spread in the 1/4 mile, example:

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...3/page009.html (scroll down to performance ratings).

Again, whoever said that I wouldn't quite take their word as the honest truth.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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This is not the situation. The F-bodies had many other problem areas that caused their demise. Horsepower race was not one of them. If that was the case, they would have NEVER made it this far.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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Angry What tha hell?

Then why the hell not bump the Corvette up in power??????

It needs more anyway!!!!!!

Geez Louise, is there some unspoken rule about the Corvette not toping 405 HP?
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 09:45 PM
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Sooo, the Camaro was killed because it was as good as the Corvette.

The guy/gal with that hypothesis is an IDIOT !!!!!!!!

I wonder what his/her job description is?
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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It wasn't the performance that was too close to the Corvette, it was the price.

It should have not been possible to order a 4th gen Camaro that cost more than 30K. Ever. Unless it was a convertible.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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C/F-IV and C5 have completely different audiences and have never been in competition.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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I just read that story again......wait a minute ...ok, I feel alittle better now.

Since according to him the Camaro became better than the Corvette...thus reducing the amount of available buyers.. and requiring the death of the Camaro....what of the Mustang?

While this incompetent bureaucrat contemplates his belly button in his cubicle at "the tubes"...is he aware that Ford found T*H*R*E*E ** T*I*M*E*S as many "buyers" for the Mustang as GM found for the F-car/Y-car combined?
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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We have a winner.......

Originally posted by WERM
It wasn't the performance that was too close to the Corvette, it was the price.

It should have not been possible to order a 4th gen Camaro that cost more than 30K. Ever. Unless it was a convertible.
I totally agree!

Combine high insurance costs, high prices and extreme depreciation and you get disaster..........

Camaro's should have NEVER breached the $30k barrier.....
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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Good to hear the Baldick is saying some positive things about Camaro... the only thing I had heard from him wa snegative stuff before.

I, too, call complete on the enthusiasts / power of the car being part of it's downfall. Camaro has used a varient of the Vette motor for a long long long time...
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
Good to hear the Baldick is saying some positive things about Camaro... the only thing I had heard from him wa snegative stuff before.

That is the bright spot in this story, I suppose.

I haven't heard him voice any perceptable opinion on Camaro/Firebird before....odd because he is ...errr..was the F-car brand manager.
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