whats ur opinion on a automatic camaro ss

hi i am new to this site and i just wanted a basic opinion i have my eyes set on this 1998 camaro ss thats fs in my area but the only prb is that its automatic my ? is how much of a diff is the automatic and 6spd quarter mile time and just plain out pep if u get what i mean but any help would be greatfull also does anyone know any major prbs that a 98 ss would have like engine wise etc.

hi i am new to this site and i just wanted a basic opinion i have my eyes set on this 1998 camaro ss thats fs in my area but the only prb is that its automatic my ? is how much of a diff is the automatic and 6spd quarter mile time and just plain out pep if u get what i mean but any help would be greatfull also does anyone know any major prbs that a 98 ss would have like engine wise etc.

There's not much difference in 1/4 mile times between the A4 and the M6. If you like the car, buy it. As far as problems specific to the 98's, I've heard they have some piston slap, but I wouldn't worry about it. Take the car for a nice long drive and check it out really good. :thumb:

Until the tranny shifts into OD which is about 100mph at WOT the cars would be pretty much neck and neck.

i think it depends on what rear end gears it has. i think the 3.23's would be right there with the m6 but the 2.73's would lag behind just a little. myself i would never and will never buy an auto for one reason, just too damn boring for a daily driven vehicle. :D

You dont have to worry about missing a gear or hitting the rev limiter, and the difference wont be much, m6s usually get the auto from a dig if its properly driven. If the car is in good condition an you like it, get it. You wont have any problems burning ruber with and auto.

98's have less piston slap than 01-02's by far.

Camaro's arent like Mustangs and Imports. The automatics are just as fast as the manuals.

I'll bet my car would run a 13.1 with an auto in it, but I'm a noob at launching manuals so a 13.4 is my best.

autos are better as they are always more consistent than manuals....unles that person taht is driving teh manual knows what they are doing....like kid said...u nevr have to worry about missing a gear or redlineing ur car....if car has 2.73s id change out teh gears real fast and put 3.73s in it ....otherwise if it has 3.23 its better but id still change teh gears..

have fun these cars are amazing..oh and i have an auto and i love it

The only thing you'll have to worry about with an auto. car are those uneducated car people who will tell you you're slow because you have an auto. Then you can just say: :D

"Camaros arent like Mustangs and Imports. The automatics are just as fast as the manuals."

The first LS1 Camaro I drove was my friend's '99 6 spd. and I couldn't believe that mine was just as fast when I test drove it for the first time. You won't regret buying an F-Body with an auto.

Really? I always thought m6 that it was only the m6 ls1's that hit low 13's stock. With the gear diffrence and without a shift kit and torque converter, I have never heard of an auto getting there. Also the m6 usually dynos above 300hp while the auto is in the 280's correct?

If you get the auto just plan on putting a 2800 stall in it to catch up to the M6s. Once you do that and can hook your right there with tho's guys. It takes a good 6spd driver to out run a A4 that's set up right when both cars are hooking. I went from a M6 to a TH400 with everything involved if that tells you anything. :D I say go with the auto and do the stall, but dont worry about the shift kit since the shift points can be changed with tuning. Ohh and use a Yank stall also there not as loose. Hope this helps. :)

I thought the same thing when I started looking A4 or Man. After thinking about it more I just went with a auto. I also swapped the gears to Motive 4.10s and couldnt be more happy would be a nice mod. down the line for ya if it isnt a everyday driver, also had Ion at WWW.madz28.com tune my PCM well worth it.

Well, stock, an M6 comes with a higher rearend gear ratio, 3.42. Highest an automatic comes with is 3.23. You also have less horsepower loss with a manual, but their advantage is miniscule since a person will never shift faster than an automatic transmission.

If you like driving a manual and you're good at it, you'll miss doing it and will probably regret not getting an M6.

The autos are more predictable and consistent on the track.

If you do get it, install a tranny cooler to extend the life of the tranny as they are not as durable as the T56 units.

i just traded my 96 TA a4 for a 99 formula m6...ive had tons of fun driving the new one. the only thing i didnt like about the a4 was if i was going around a turn, or pulling out of a restaraunt into traffic...i didnt know exactly when it would shift, so it would throw my back end out and sometimes it get s alil scary. i feel more in control with the m6 now.

i just traded my 96 TA a4 for a 99 formula m6...ive had tons of fun driving the new one. the only thing i didnt like about the a4 was if i was going around a turn, or pulling out of a restaraunt into traffic...i didnt know exactly when it would shift, so it would throw my back end out and sometimes it get s alil scary. i feel more in control with the m6 now.

hmm... i've never had that problem with my A4 :confused:

well, say im leaving the storeand i needed to cross a few lanes of traffic and get on the opposite side of the street to get going the right direction. i would pull out and whatnot, give it some throttle, and if it happened to shift while i was still turning a little, the back end would slide out a little. but, it might have just been my car. it shifted really hard, and i needed new tires. but thats just my .02

If you can't bang gears, I wouldn't suggest a M6 LS1.
From the stories I have heard, they aren't that forgiving when you miss a gear.I have heard too many horror stories of people missing gears and blowing motors.

If you can't bang gears, I wouldn't suggest a M6 LS1.
From the stories I have heard, they aren't that forgiving when you miss a gear.I have heard too many horror stories of people missing gears and blowing motors.

clack clack , piston slap

The whole manual vs. auto thing has been blown way out of proportion. There is no one that is clearly better. Get an auto if you don't want to shift all the time. Get a manual if you think it would be fun.

A4 SSs come with 3.23s standard so you wouldn't have to worry about getting the 2.73s.

If you can't bang gears, I wouldn't suggest a M6 LS1.
From the stories I have heard, they aren't that forgiving when you miss a gear.I have heard too many horror stories of people missing gears and blowing motors.

You cant blow a motor with a rev limiter!! The tranny or rearend on the other hand......

clack clack , piston slap

Piston slap has nothing to do with a4 or manual transmission.

You cant blow a motor with a rev limiter!! The tranny or rearend on the other hand......

Oh yes you can! The most common thing to happen is bent pushrods though. I've missed a couple shifts on my car and I can tell you it revved to 6500, even though the limiter is at 6200.

Oh yes you can! The most common thing to happen is bent pushrods though. I've missed a couple shifts on my car and I can tell you it revved to 6500, even though the limiter is at 6200.


That's correct. If you are rolling at 70 MPH and throw it into first, you've bypassed the electronic rev limiter - nothing it can do at that point. What you still have is the "mechanical" rev limiter, which by design, bends the pushrods (not a blown motor), instead of shooting a piston through your hood and 50 feet into the air - THAT'S a blown motor. :dead:

This being said, driving an M6 is not as dare-devilish as some people might have you believe. Obviously, if you are going to drive this car hard and do not know what you are doing with that little stick thingy in the center console:confused:...get the auto. :p

well, say im leaving the storeand i needed to cross a few lanes of traffic and get on the opposite side of the street to get going the right direction. i would pull out and whatnot, give it some throttle, and if it happened to shift while i was still turning a little, the back end would slide out a little. but, it might have just been my car. it shifted really hard, and i needed new tires. but thats just my .02


My 96 Tahoe does that... Any POSI will get alittle squirrrly.. I have had the trans rebuilt and my trans guy swears by shift kits so.. My tahoe got one.. It's fine.. Firm shifts.. I love my 700R-4 Had my trans guy rebuild it.. Put new engine in and took back to him to adjust the TV cable.. Get a 3.42 or 3.73 rear gear.. Get a 2400 or 2800 stall 9.5" Convertor.. You'll be just as fast maybe alittle faster with these mods..

Piston slap has nothing to do with a4 or manual transmission.
u clearly didnt read y i wrote that ....so shut up...

if ur looking for a very consistent car and dont wanna shift all teh time then auto is 4 u

u clearly didnt read y i wrote that ....so shut up...

if ur looking for a very consistent car and dont wanna shift all teh time then auto is 4 u

I read exactly what you wrote "clack clack , piston slap". It does not make sense in the context of manual vs. auto. With a comment like "shut up" you are obviously a little kid. Either that or not very smart.

my 98 never had the piston slap problem but it did suffer an early oil pump failure at around 40k miles

I read exactly what you wrote "clack clack , piston slap". It does not make sense in the context of manual vs. auto. With a comment like "shut up" you are obviously a little kid. Either that or not very smart.
wow we have an internet tough guy...am i supposed to be offended by that.....ur cool....what a f-ing loser..

BTW if u were so smart u would understand y i wrote that....put two and two together a$$hole. or ill do it for u since ur soo stupid....one kid mentioned some manuals hitting teh rev limiter and blowing engines....and i posted clack clac, piston slap b/c thats a commom probblem on LS1s...or atleast most of em....
if u dont know how to drive a manual get a auto...autos are just as fast and hitting teh rev limiter is not a problem IMO if u wanna race and race hard an auto would be better...as there is a less of a strain on weak GM rear end..build up the transmission and have fun shifting fater and not having to worry about hittingthe limiter(not saying every car that hits teh limiter will blow up )...
u started this crap,....there was no intentions of argueing....ill keep on commenting anything anytime i want...

I decided to do a manual swap with my car because the tranny would hold the power and would have more gears then if I had a 3spd, which is what I didn't wanna do, I don't like topping out at like 120-130ish ;) with the extra gears I can gear a little higher and maybe be a lil faster, every .10 helps baby.

if this is going to be a 2nd car, get a m6 for sure, but if daily driven I say auto, because beleive me, there are tons of days that u just feel like being lazy.

auto is just as good as manual I think in the avg day. unless your a pro racer

just my 2 cents

wow we have an internet tough guy...am i supposed to be offended by that.....ur cool....what a f-ing loser..

BTW if u were so smart u would understand y i wrote that....put two and two together a$$hole. or ill do it for u since ur soo stupid....one kid mentioned some manuals hitting teh rev limiter and blowing engines....and i posted clack clac, piston slap b/c thats a commom probblem on LS1s...or atleast most of em....
if u dont know how to drive a manual get a auto...autos are just as fast and hitting teh rev limiter is not a problem IMO if u wanna race and race hard an auto would be better...as there is a less of a strain on weak GM rear end..build up the transmission and have fun shifting fater and not having to worry about hittingthe limiter(not saying every car that hits teh limiter will blow up )...
u started this crap,....there was no intentions of argueing....ill keep on commenting anything anytime i want...

I started nothing. Like I said you must be a kid and leave it at that. All I said is that piston slap is not more common on either auto or manual.

On another not, I am not sure how you could put it in 1st at 80mph either. Maybe 5th but not 1st. I can see accidentally downshifting to 2nd instead of 4th and only if you are driving hard. In normal driving you have plenty of time to check the gear before letting the clutch out.

mine wont even let me in 1st if im at 40 or so. and the 1 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 'holy ****' shift has happened to me a few times :(

[QUOTE=falchulk]I started nothing. Like I said you must be a kid and leave it at that. [QUOTE]

ok well leave it at that ..but im not a kid

BTW good luck on ur buy whether manual or auto

Okay I don't know much about cars or anything so don't flame me cause I know nothing. I got to test drive a 2002 trans-am with my dad, I think it was 6 or 5 speed manual. And my moms owns a 2001 Z28 automatic. I noticed the manual had way more punch to it. The car was much more responsive too. It felt like ti had way more low end power. The manual felt way way way better, I know the cars have similar power but the trans-am felt way faster. Anyways thats just my opinion from driving in both.

Okay I don't know much about cars or anything so don't flame me cause I know nothing. I got to test drive a 2002 trans-am with my dad, I think it was 6 or 5 speed manual. And my moms owns a 2001 Z28 automatic. I noticed the manual had way more punch to it. The car was much more responsive too. It felt like ti had way more low end power. The manual felt way way way better, I know the cars have similar power but the trans-am felt way faster. Anyways thats just my opinion from driving in both.With the 3.42s it probably did feel like it had more low end, a lot of it might have been in your head too.

The manual LS1s are 6 speeds.

V6 models are 5-speeds.

So can 3.42's and a manual transmission really make that much of a difference from an automatic 2001 z28?? It had way more low end, and it wasnt in my head. Might of been that thing where all engines are different, some are a little faster than others and they all have different torque curves. Guess that trans-am was a lucky one. We almost bought it too, damn it NOOOOOOO! :cry:

So can 3.42's and a manual transmission really make that much of a difference from an automatic 2001 z28?? It had way more low end, and it wasnt in my head. Might of been that thing where all engines are different, some are a little faster than others and they all have different torque curves. Guess that trans-am was a lucky one. We almost bought it too, damn it NOOOOOOO! :cry:

manuals do feel like tehy pull a lot better but its all in ur head......being in control of ur car ie what gear ur in and just slamming through em is fun annd does make ur car seem faster..

[QUOTE=falchulk]I started nothing. Like I said you must be a kid and leave it at that. [QUOTE]

ok well leave it at that ..but im not a kid

BTW good luck on ur buy whether manual or auto


This quote is from your website:

"This is my ride, well summer ride that is. I bought it in may of 2003. For all those people that dont think they can afford a beautiful sports car with and average joes job, take it from me your wrong i work at a car wash for sakes. Plus im only 19."

Now, at 19, a lot of us would consider you a kid! :p

It must be nice having your parents pay for your car insurance and mods cause I can't see how you could do it on a car wash salary. :confused:

Nice ride!

Look at Sig.. Autos are Bad A$$

This quote is from your website:

"This is my ride, well summer ride that is. I bought it in may of 2003. For all those people that dont think they can afford a beautiful sports car with and average joes job, take it from me your wrong i work at a car wash for sakes. Plus im only 19."

Now, at 19, a lot of us would consider you a kid! :p

It must be nice having your parents pay for your car insurance and mods cause I can't see how you could do it on a car wash salary. :confused:

Nice ride!

i just got mad b/c he tried insulting me by saying i was stupid..

BTW i bought my car on my own ....i bought all my mods on my own ...i pay for my own insurance by myself....i buy everything for myself and my parents dont pay for ****.....its call managing ur money ....and giving up other things that are less important and some things that are important

im not gonna take that as a dis b/c im not in teh mood to argue .....i stopped argueing with him so dont start another