300C SRT-8 pics...right here!

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outside of the rims, whats so different? No visual difference like the CTS-V?

my post is better than yours, look below, i just got pics of the ford shelby gr-1 concept. joking, i don't think my title was appealing enough.

but this car looks ok. you now what is need, someone need to lower the front roof line and make the front window smaller. that'd be mean :eek: :bow:

Very subtle front spoiler. I like the incognito look. It needs a set of Fiske FM5 in polished alloy at 19".

Any idea on MSRP? Some one said 35-45k but thats a huge jump. We are looking at a motor that doesnt really cost anymore to make than the current hemi that comes in the 300C. Im guessing 5-6k more base price than the 300c. So 37 k ish soind about correct?

Looks familar (http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288706&highlight=srt8) ;)

I still want to see the interior and the motor.

Those numbers for pricing is what I guessed bcuz the base is right in the middle of a 300C and just bellow the rumored LWB(long wheelbase)LX car is suppose to start.

outside of the rims, whats so different? No visual difference like the CTS-V?

Less chrome and more body color paint, just like the AMG cars from MB.


edit: Some more 300C SRT-8 pics. (http://www.auto-motor-sport.de/d/65918)

Jumping form a base of 33 to 35k is a "big" jump?
Im sure the SRT-8 will be loaded down with Navi and all the other options, and will probably below the CTS-V in price. Figure a fully loaded 300C is about 38k, add the limited supply 6.1 hemi, the new-for-LX chassis 6spd, and other performance upgraces in wheels, brakes, and suspension, Im sure 45k would be about right. Thats a lot of car for 45k. Time for Caddy to step it up with the CTS-V. Maybe Caddy is waiting for DCX to tip their hand?

:tired: I just can't get excited about this car. I feel like a loner around here.

Can you see some teenagers in 40 years digging that car out of a junkyard and starting to do hevy body mods... :D

How would that car look with a chopped-top!!! :eek:
Lower it any more, and the front grill will be called the "grind-spot".

I like it pretty good overall. It does scream "look at me" with the unique styling. The windows really set it apart from the side.

One more question... with the grill design the way it is, how does this car get by the federal 5mph impact guideline? I can't see a front impact (5mph or less FTM) that won't destroy the entire grill. :confused:

Here are all the specs

specifications
Dimensions are in inches (millimeters) unless otherwise noted.
GENERAL INFORMATION
Body Style Four-door sedan
Assembly Plant Brampton, Ontario, Canada
EPA Vehicle Class Large car
Introduction Date January 2005, MY 2005

ENGINE: 6.1-LITER, HEMIÆ V-8
Availability Std. – 300C SRT-8
Type and Description 90-degree V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement 370 cu. in. (6059 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke 4.06 x 3.58 (103.0 x 90.9)
Valve System Pushrod-operated overhead valves, 16 valves,
eight conventional hydraulic lifters, all with roller followers
Fuel Injection Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
Construction Deep-skirt cast-iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps,
aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Compression Ratio 10.3:1
Power (estimated SAE net) 425 bhp (318 kW) @ 6200 rpm, (69.8 bhp/L)
Torque (estimated SAE Net) 420 lb.-ft. (310 N•m) @ 4800 rpm
Max. Engine Speed 6400 rpm (electronically limited)
Fuel Requirement Premium 91 octane (R+M)/2—recommended,
Oil Capacity 7 qt. (6.6L)
Coolant Capacity 14.00 qt. (13.25L)
Emission Controls Dual close-coupled three-way catalytic converters,
quad heated oxygen sensors and internal engine features
Max. Gross Trailer Weight not rated for trailer tow
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg City/Hwy) 19 hwy/ 14city, 18.4 combined

TRANSMISSION: W5A580 FIVE-SPEED AUTOMATIC
Availability Std. – 300C SRT-8
Description Adaptive electronic control, Performance tuned AutoStickÆ driver-interactive
manual control and electronically modulated torque converter clutch
Gear Ratios
1st 3.59
2nd 2.19
3rd 1.41
4th 1.00
5th 0.83
Reverse 3.17
Final Drive Ratio 3.06
Overall Top Gear 2.54
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Alternator 160-amp
Battery H7 Case, 730 CCA, maintenance-free

DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES(a)
Wheelbase 120.0 (3048)
Track, Front 63.0 (1600)
Track, Rear 63.1 (1603)
Overall Length 196.8 (4999)
Overall Width 74.1 (1881)
Overall Height 57.9 (1471)
Ground Clearance 5.1 (130)
Frontal Area, sq. ft. (sq. m) 25.8 (2.32)
Drag Coefficient 0.355
Curb Weight, lb. (kg)—Est. 4160 (1888)
Weight Dist., F/R 55/45
Fuel Tank Capacity, gal. (L) 19 (72)

(a) All dimensions measured at curb weight with standard tires.
ACCOMMODATIONS
Seating Capacity, F/R 2/3
Front
Head room 38.7 (983)
Leg room 41.8 (1061)
Shoulder room 59.4 (1510)
Hip room 55.9 (1420)
Seat travel Driver—10.6 (270), passenger—8.66 (220)
Recliner angle range, deg. Driver—70, passenger—69
SAE volume, cu. ft. (cu. m) 55.6 (1.58)
Rear
Head room 38.0 (965)
Leg room 40.2 (1020)
Knee clearance 4.8 (122)
Shoulder room 57.7 (1466)
Hip room 55.9 (1421)
SAE volume, cu. ft. (cu. m) 51.0 (1.44)
Total interior volume, cu. ft. (cu. m) 106.6 (3.00)
SAE Cargo Volume, cu. ft. (cu. m) 15.6 (.442)
EPA Interior Volume Index, cu. ft. (cu. m) 122.2 (3.46)
Trunk Liftover Height 30.2 (768)
BODY
Layout Longitudinal front engine, rear-wheel drive
Construction Steel unibody
SUSPENSION
* Performance tuned front & rear suspension
Front Independent SLA with high upper “A” arm, lateral and diagonal lower links
with dual ball joint front knuckle, coil spring over gas-charged
shock absorbers and revised stabilizer bar lower “A” arm
Rear Five-link independent with coil springs, gas-charged shock absorbers
and isolated suspension cradle. Revised rear stabilizer bar
STEERING
Type Rack and pinion with hydraulic power assist
Overall Ratio 16.1:1
Turning Diameter (curb-to-curb) 38.9 ft. (11.9 m)
Steering Turns (lock-to-lock) 2.75
TIRES
Standard – 300C SRT-8
Size and type P245/45R20 - Front
P255/45R20 - Rear
Mfr. and model 3 Season Goodyear F1 Supercar
Revs per mile (km) 729 (452) Front , 720 (447) Rear
Optional – 300C SRT-8
Size and type 245/45R20 - Front
245/45R20 - Rear
Mfr. and model 4 Season Goodyear RS-A
Revs per mile (km) 729 (452) Front , 729 (452) Rear

WHEELS
Standard – 300C SRT-8
Type and material Forged Polished Aluminum
Size 20 x 9 in.

BRAKES
Front
Rotor size and type 14.2 x 1.26 ( 360 x 32.0 ) vented
Caliper size and type 1.73 (44) Brembo 4-piston fixed with aluminum housing
Swept area 351 sq. in. (2261 sq. cm)
Rear
Rotor size and type 13.8 x 1.10 (350 x 28) vented
Caliper size and type 1.26 (32) Brembo 4-piston fixed with aluminum housing
Swept area 316 sq. in. (2036 sq. cm)
Four-wheel anti-lock and traction control Std
Electronic stability control and brake assist Std
Power assist type
Std. on 300C SRT-8 8x9 (203 x 229) active tandem-diaphragm vacuum booster

One of the things that didn't thrill me about the 300C.....was too much chrome, too much tortoise shell.....just didn't quite fit my personality.

But look at this....IT'S GONE. And it's got some new nifty wheels and Brembo brakes.....oh,.......and another EIGHTY FIVE horsepower.

If you ask me...it's cool.

Was looking at the specs posted...no 6spd option?? :(

From the Autoweek 300C SRT-8 story:
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100555


The 300C SRT-8 should arrive in Chrysler dealerships in February 2005, and pricing will be established closer to that time. "You could look at what we did with pricing on the SRT-4, SRT-6 and Ram SRT-10 for guidance," says Knott. "We want to offer the best bang for the buck."

The engine should provide plenty of bang. Most speculation about the SRT-8 designation centered on the Dodge Magnum sport wagon. When we ask if there will be a Dodge version of this car, Knott smiles slightly and says, "Let’s just say that if there were a Dodge application, this would be our engine for any V8 car."

Is anyone else thinking Charger?

So charger would have to come in at 34-36 base and 38-39 loaded. I just cant see dodge having a sedan that is 40K.

Engine shot:


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Engine shot:


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Looks familiar.....anyone remember the notorious 6.1 HEMI engine pic. :D


We have seen a 5.7 HEMI 300C go 5.3 0-60 and 18.8@101 in the quarter. Now we gain a hundred pounds and 85hp and 30lbs of tq. This car has been rated at 0=-60 in low 5s, which the 5.7 already does, and quarter in mid 13s. For some reason I think when the magazines get ahold of this car they will be shattering those numbers by big margins.

when will this be availible to the public? I know somebody who was looking into buying a 300C, but will probably just sit tight for a while when he sees this.

This is what makes a 6.1 different than a 5.7.


The 425-horsepower, normally aspirated 6.1-liter HEMI is the highest specific-output engine ever offered by the Chrysler Group. Its 69.8 horsepower-per-liter rating exceeds even that of the legendary 1966 "Street HEMI." Torque is rated at 420 lb.-ft.

Although the Chrysler HEMI was born in the 1950s and entered into legend in the 1960s and '70s, today's version took much of its inspiration from the original - particularly the namesake hemispherical combustion chambers that provide power and efficiency.

When SRT set out to develop a more powerful HEMI for the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, they were mindful of the engine's heritage, which led to adopting traditional HEMI engine cues, such as an orange-painted cylinder block and black valve covers.

The SRT powertrain engineers who developed the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's engine achieved more horsepower by adding more cubic inches, increasing the compression ratio, redesigning the cylinder head intake and exhaust systems for increased flow, and increasing engine speed.

To get more displacement, SRT engineers bored out the diameter of the cylinders in the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's HEMI by 3.5 millimeters each, to increase the total displacement to 6.1 liters from 5.7 liters. Compression ratio was also increased to 10.3:1 from 9.6:1, unleashing more energy in the combustion process.

Engine breathing was increased with new high-flow cylinder heads, a specially designed intake manifold, and exhaust "headers" with individual tubes encased in a stainless steel shell, all unique to the 2005 Chrysler 300C SRT-8's 6.1-liter HEMI engine. Larger diameter valves and reshaped cylinder ports in the heads allow for maximized air flow. The intake manifold was designed with larger diameter runners for higher-speed tuning. Exhaust is routed through a larger-diameter (2.75-inch vs. 2.5-inch) exhaust system with 3.5-inch chrome tips.

Performance-oriented camshaft profiles were developed to balance total vehicle requirements, simultaneously allowing more air in and out of cylinders. This increases performance and manages a higher engine speed, which is another method to increase horsepower. SRT engineers increased the HEMI's peak engine speed nearly 15 percent, to 6,200 revolutions power minute (rpm) from 5,400 rpm. Intake and exhaust valve stems are hollow, and the exhaust valve stems are filled with sodium to help dissipate heat more efficiently.

The high-performance 6.1-liter HEMI is further strengthened with a host of redesigned components, including a reinforced engine block with increased coolant flow, forged steel crankshaft, high-strength powdered-metal connecting rods, floating-pin pistons (cooled by oil squirters), and an oil pan modified for reduced oil foaming.

The 6.1-liter HEMI's power is channeled through an A580 five-speed automatic transmission with specially calibrated AutoStick® driver-selectable range control, which offers fully automatic or manual shifting selection. A heavy-duty four-flange prop shaft sends the torque from the transmission to an upgraded differential and axles.

outside of the rims, whats so different? No visual difference like the CTS-V?

Theres a few visual differences with the CTSv, mostly just the grill :D But still...you can tell the difference between a v and a CTS on the road pretty easily. Probably unlike the SRT-8.

I don't know if I'm getting the whole reason behind muscle-sedans. Why not save that for the intended purpose musclecars? Who needs a 425HP 4-door sedan, and why? To roll around in and say bling bling? It's getting a little ridiculous. Sedans now that can beat L98's, LT1's, (even with a few mods) and give LS1's a really, matter of fact, way too good of a run for their money.

I mean LB9 M5 and L98 A4 G92's, LT1's, LS1's etc. are fast cars to just drive on the street and are quicker than 90% or more of the cars you'll be with on the road at any given time each day. Low 13's-low 14's/5-6sec 0-60's is not particularly slow. These new cars with all this power stock is pretty crazy. But put it in the right cars at least!

Who needs a 425HP 4-door sedan, and why?


Maybe......

Someone like me.


Why? I love to drive great performing cars....and sometimes I need to carry people in them.

I would love for a LS2 powerd, RWD, 6spd Grand Prix.
If I had 50k, I would probably get a CTS-V as well. I think its pretty cool, thoes muscle sedans. It seems that the only RWD cars anymore are sedans or trucks, so we have to start somewhere.

I would rather have a 300C SRT-8 Coupe, but as I said before in another thread. Sometimes people need the practiacality of a sedan or wagon. Just because I have to have 4 doors or cary a big dumb, deff dog around doesnt mean I should be limited to driving a a slow unresponsive car.

Still no word on a SRT-8 Magnum? I could care less about a 4 door Charger. Id take the 300 C 4 door over a less optioned oversyled Dodge. we could really use a Car like a SRT-8 Magnum.

I would rather have a 300C SRT-8 Coupe....

Still no word on a SRT-8 Magnum? We could really use a Car like a SRT-8 Magnum.

Patcience, 5 new LX based models will be in production next year. Including the Charger, SRT8 of said Charger(should have a manual), and SRT8 Magnum. Things will start to get good about the time of the Detroit Auto Show. There is a possibility of a coupe coming next year.

Saw the 300 SRT-8 at Pebble Beach Saturday. If anyone is basing their excitement level on a bunch of tacked on add ons, you won't be interested in this car. On the other hand, if you had a thing for Thunderbird SCs, or 90s era Impala SSs when those cars hit the street, then this is going to be something you'll want to look into.

In fact, this car IS the modern Impala SS of the 90s. It's big, it's very quick, distinctly American, & even the price level is dead on (anyone who thinks mid 90s Impala SSs were cheap, affordable, or reasonably priced when they were out gets an "F" for the day ;)).

I don't know if I'm getting the whole reason behind muscle-sedans. Why not save that for the intended purpose musclecars? Who needs a 425HP 4-door sedan, and why? To roll around in and say bling bling? It's getting a little ridiculous. Sedans now that can beat L98's, LT1's, (even with a few mods) and give LS1's a really, matter of fact, way too good of a run for their money.

I mean LB9 M5 and L98 A4 G92's, LT1's, LS1's etc. are fast cars to just drive on the street and are quicker than 90% or more of the cars you'll be with on the road at any given time each day. Low 13's-low 14's/5-6sec 0-60's is not particularly slow. These new cars with all this power stock is pretty crazy. But put it in the right cars at least!

Unfortunately, the coupe market isn't what it used to be. WE may be coupe & performance enthusiasts, but we are only a very small fragment of the automotive market. Other than the Mustang, there isn't a rear drive coupe on the planet with a V8 going for under 30 grand. Even the GTO that everyone says is too expensive, is the 2nd cheapest V8 coupe on the planet.

I don't know if I'm getting the whole reason behind muscle-sedans. Why not save that for the intended purpose musclecars? Who needs a 425HP 4-door sedan, and why?


You could ask who needs a 425HP 2-door car??? 2-door cars arn't allows the most practical for carrying people/cargo, so put that fun engine in a practical car or truck and you have the best of both worlds.

:tired: I just can't get excited about this car. I feel like a loner around here.
You are not alone...

:yuck:

I'm aware of the fact that DCX has built a couple of great cars in the 300 and Magnum, but to be honest, these cars would not have gotten one-tenth of the buzz if they named their pushrod engine something other than 'Hemi.'
Simply saying the word 100 times in commercials and articles has had the desired subliminal effect on the car-buying populace...am I correct in understanding that the new hemi isn't even a "true" hemi??

And I saw the other story posted about an interview with and engy from GM...he said the new hemi is almost a carbon copy of the LSx engines...doesn't that mean lawsuit or something?

That carbon copy comment is just wrong.

Deep skirt blocks, cross-bolted main caps have been done before the LSx family of motors. The old SBC and SB Mopars haver more in common than the new hemi and LSx motors. The heads are completely different, the block is a lot different. The block has more in common with the outgoing 5.9s than the the LSX. Other than the intake I dont really see that much in common. They are bothe Pushrod motors.

man that things tryin to look like a bently

I just can't get excited about this car. I feel like a loner around here.

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of the 300, nor this SRT version. I've seen 300C's on the street... they just look plain weird to me. NO trunk... too boxy overall. The SRT8 has nothing to fix the basic aesthetic flaws. And the over-large bling-bling wheels aren't helping either.... Foo. I'd take a CTS-V over this any day.

I would love to have a SRT-8 300. I have a family, yet still desire a V8 with RWD. With baby seats, a four door is better at justifying to the wife. She refused to let me have a GTO, but she can't say **** about a 300. I prefer Dodge's styling, so I will wait for a Charger SRT8.

:tired: I just can't get excited about this car. I feel like a loner around here.

Man, I'm with ya there brother! I just don't understand why everyone is creaming their panties over that fugmobile! :confused:

Oh well, to each his own...

Man, I'm with ya there brother! I just don't understand why everyone is creaming their panties over that fugmobile! :confused: Because "that thangs got a Hemi". DC has marketed the new Hemi extremely well and hyped it to death. So much so that they could put a Hemi in a turd and people will buy it.

The Magnum I can accept, even if it is a station wagon. The 300C is just plain ugly IMO. If I wanted a big RWD 4-door V8 sedan, Cadillac has a much sexier option IMO. :D

Because "that thangs got a Hemi". DC has marketed the new Hemi extremely well and hyped it to death. So much so that they could put a Hemi in a turd and people will buy it.

The Magnum I can accept, even if it is a station wagon. The 300C is just plain ugly IMO. If I wanted a big RWD 4-door V8 sedan, Cadillac has a much sexier option IMO. :D


At a little under 20K more. What do the new STS's go for. You get more power with the 300C than the STS's for a lot less money. People usually dont cross shop cars with 20k difference in MSRP.

At a little under 20K more. What do the new STS's go for. You get more power with the 300C than the STS's for a lot less money. People usually dont cross shop cars with 20k difference in MSRP.Who cares if it has more power if it looks like sh!t? 95% of the time power isn't even going to matter. Styling, looks and comfort does.

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of the 300, nor this SRT version. I've seen 300C's on the street... they just look plain weird to me. NO trunk... too boxy overall. The SRT8 has nothing to fix the basic aesthetic flaws. And the over-large bling-bling wheels aren't helping either.... Foo. I'd take a CTS-V over this any day.

:cheers:

:lol: Had a funny experience with my mom the other day... I was outside helping her move some things to the garage and we saw a 300C go by. I asked her if she liked it and she just replied "It looks Wierd! :irk:" Later we saw a Magnum go by and she literally dropped what she was doing and just watched it pass by :bow: And to think...she just spent $18K on a new Taurus when she coulda had that :no: :shame:

Who cares if it has more power if it looks like sh!t? 95% of the time power isn't even going to matter. Styling, looks and comfort does.


Not to burst your bubble but the media finds the 300c attractive while they really dont care to much for the "new edge" Caddy styling. Looks are in the eye of the beholder and many people prefer the 300C.

A lot of people like the high beltline of the LXs, myself included. The only thing I don't like is the grille, and the truncated rear end. I would have a 300C if not for these two things. That is why I am waiting for a Charger SRT8.

:tired: I just can't get excited about this car. I feel like a loner around here.



I'm with you...I think it got smacked around with the ugly stick.

Not to burst your bubble but the media finds the 300c attractive while they really dont care to much for the "new edge" Caddy styling. Looks are in the eye of the beholder and many people prefer the 300C.
You're not bursting my bubble. I could give a ratsass if the media finds the 300C attractive. I don't.

The C6 is attractive. The CTS; attractive. Heck even the 2005 Mustang is attractive. The 300C is one fugly automobile IMO. Am I in the minority? Who cares? I know for a fact that I'll never be buying one.

:irk:

Media Schmedia...

All of the folks that I've been around when a 300 went by say it's "weird" or a "fake Bentley." It's my opinion that those who have rushed out to buy one are the folks that are in to fads...

Well, can't really say that the 300 is pretty...as in Ferrari 355 pretty...but it's got something seductive about it.

Bring on the Charger SRT8.