lighting vs lt-1

how would a stock lighting measure up gainst a lt-1? j/w my buddie has one and wants to race.. i knwo there hella heavy and have major traction issues...so i dunno...but he does have a fair bit more power...j/w thanks guys :cool:

lightnings are slow, race him and bet some money :D

you can take him, pink slips craig, pinkslips :D

Yeah I took out a pulley and chipped lightning on dr's when I was almost stock. . .you should be ok .

My buddy was wondering the same thing. There is a brod that he works with that talks sh_ to him about here boyfriends lightning. I told him to be carefull but after reading this I will tell him to bet some $$$.

yeah they slow. you should have no problems.

yeah they feel hella fast from inside, but man are they slow, i would bet a j body would be able to take it on the highway.

haha awsome thanks guys :cool: god i love these cars :bow:

13.4 - 13.6 in the 1/4 and they are slow?????? :confused:

dunno.....Sounds fast to me :D :D

Here are my numbers:

60ft: 2.062
1/8 th: 8.834
MPH: 80.821

ET : 13.682
MPH: 100.541

Here is another:

60ft: 1.979
1/8 th: 8.702
MPH: 81.362

ET : 13.549
MPH: 100.926

And one more:

60ft: 1.988
1/8 th: 8.651
MPH: 81.651

ET: 13.476
MPH: 100.814


yeah....they are slow :rolleyes:

Later

Stock for Stock: an LT1 will be very close with the older 360hp Lightening
the newer 385hp Lightening may edge out a stock LT1????

your lighting may have some mods, you may know how to drive it or whatever, but around here i or any lt1/ls1 car that i know of have yet to lose to a lightning around here.....so yeah there slow.

Gen 1 lightnings are slow......Gen 2 lightnings are respectable to all car lovers. My lightning is stock down to the paper air filter and I ran those times. I am probably not going to mod it...The thought of adding more boost just not seem safe to me. Do not get me wrong...I love F bods (I have one :D ) but I just love the way this truck looks and handles. The lines of the truck just mesh together nicely.

Later

Dude I love the Lightnings too . .. Im in the market for a mini van of all things :yuck: and If I could pull some money out my ass a lightning would be the pimp'tist of delivery trucks :bow:

Gas consumptions pushing me towards a honda odessey van thought :shame:

Doesnt change the fact your trapping 100 mph . . . . still slow for most the peeps in the PNWR .

These times were done when it is NASTY HUMID in the south....Talking about 85-95 degree weather with 100% humidity. I wish I was up north with you guys....I then could pull better trap times. You would be surprised at the amount of fuel I use. Just cruising to and from work (66 miles round trip) 5 days a week, I burn a little less than 3/4 of a tank. Not as good as the van you are getting, but still damn good for a High Horsepower, 2 ton, aerodynamics of a brick, truck :D :D

Later

Dude, Im in the market for a mini van of all things :cool:

The wife is pushing me towards a honda odessey van. :Owned:
BAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your life is over the minute you get a minivan. Next thing you know you'll be selling the T/A and buying a civic :barf:

Hey, I got 3 minivans. And my life is far from over Elgyn...

Hey, I got 3 minivans. And my life is far from over Elgyn...
It's an inside joke/It's something I always bug Dave about. I don't mean anything from it and I wouldn't take it personaly.

I just read the Hot Rod Mag article of the 2004 SRT-10 Ram versus the 2004 Lightning. In the article the Lightning ran a 14.10 at 100.xx and the SRT-10 ran something around(cant quite remember) a 13.6x or so @ 103-105. I read the article earlier today and remember the Lightning ran the 14.1 for sure but the memory is fuzzy about the Ram.

track times dont mean much on the street. i too like the look of the lightnings and for a truck its pretty damn respectable, but the majority of lightnings here i doubt will give any 4th gen any troubles.

This thread is damn funny.

1- L's feel slow (not fast) from the inside due to the large size, elevated ride height and smooth power curve.

2- A stock LT1 would get its ass handed to it by a 2001 plus stock L. (My L stock went 13.6x@103 mph all day long) The best in my Camaro stock was 14.0X@100.x mph.

3- An LS1 will beat a stock 2001 L

4- 2001 plus Lightning have great traction. (1.82 60 foot times with stock rubber and no Susp. mods)

5- Chip, Filter, Pulley on a Lightning = mid 12's in an L at 107mph (I.E easy to mod) (in fact low 12's are just as cheap but risk of throwing a rod increases)

I have owned both and LT1 F-body and a 2002 Lightning so I speak only from experience.

On the streets anything can happen. Also driver plays a huge part.

Good luck and have fun. That’s what it’s about.

I have a few Videos of what a slightly modded LT1 6 speed will do against a Lightning with $500 in mods if anyone wants to host it)

It's an inside joke/It's something I always bug Dave about. I don't mean anything from it and I wouldn't take it personaly.

Yeah, I figured... I was just joking back with ya! Everyone's a minivan hater...

my stock lt1 has yet to get its ass handed to it by ANY lightning.

My friend has a 2003 Lightning. He brought it to the dyno and pulled some impressive numbers. It's fast but he got beat by a CTS-V and a Viper from a roll. Well, duh! :p
And Twitch, about the Odyssey...my buddy's parents had one a while back and at 80,000 kms it's THIRD transmission was on its way out.

My friend has a 2003 Lightning. He brought it to the dyno and pulled some impressive numbers. It's fast but he got beat by a CTS-V and a Viper from a roll. Well, duh! :p
And Twitch, about the Odyssey...my buddy's parents had one a while back and at 80,000 kms it's THIRD transmission was on its way out.

:eek: Good info thanks man .

if i wanted a minivan i d get a safari. i have seen a few of those that look pretty sweet. and you can put a small block in there. Safari with an LS1 :D

Gas milage and reliability is key . . . . unfortunatly :cry:

A stock any year LT1 vs a stock 2001-2002 Lightning, given equal drivers, the LT1 will get spanked. Same car vs. a stock 2003-2004 Lightning, closer, but only because Ford changed the load rating so the 03-04 L's sit way to high in the back.

THIS is assuming that the LT1 is in great running order. Your talking about cars with mileage(some alot) on them vs. brand new vehicles with nothing wrong.

mine just turned over 45'000 the other day hehehe

i remember one of my first races was against a lightning.

was driving on the hwy and this lightning pulls up beside me and then just hammered on it.. he took off. i was in 5th and too lazy to downshift, so i just floored it.. soon enough i caught up and took him to schoool :CooL:

Man..the **** is deep in here...catching faster vehicles in 5th now are we?

Man..the **** is deep in here...catching faster vehicles in 5th now are we?

You L isnt going to be faster than a stripper LS1 SS with a 3480 lb race weight . . yes race weight with AMIT in the car. When he said he took it to school . . . he ment he bent it over and ****ed it up the ass :rolleyes:

5th gear in an f-bod unless it is a really bad car is not the best performing gear.

I mean...WTF do I know...I only own the vehicles in question and they are both pretty good running. :eek:

was driving on the hwy and this lightning pulls up beside me

Im sure the lightning kicks ass from a 100 - 120 punch lol

I think you are correct only to a certain degree. The lightning will beat the LT1 in the 1/4 mile, but if they go past that the LT1 will start to pull.

I don't see how it couldn't air friction exceeds ground friction at about 40MPH and the lightning has the aerodynamics of a brick wall. I imagine it has a fairly weak top end in comparison to the f-body.

Just a guess anyways, since they are both rated at about the same speeds. Low 14s high 13s, and one has better aerodynamics. It seems logical.

- Z28WannaB


A stock any year LT1 vs a stock 2001-2002 Lightning, given equal drivers, the LT1 will get spanked. Same car vs. a stock 2003-2004 Lightning, closer, but only because Ford changed the load rating so the 03-04 L's sit way to high in the back.

THIS is assuming that the LT1 is in great running order. Your talking about cars with mileage(some alot) on them vs. brand new vehicles with nothing wrong.

You don't know what your talking about whatsoever.

I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?

Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.

Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...

Z28wannaB...

Actually, my Lightning when it was basically stock(CAI) pulled a faster 1/8 MPH and pulled more MPH in the 2nd 1/8 than my Z28, which was a good running Z28 when stock(14.08@99.16). My Lightning gained 21.75 mph(4.503 mph per sec avg).

Even now, my Lightning gets a slower than normal 1/8 speed, I get 83-84 MPH in the 1/8, but almost 108 MPH in the 1/4.

It is no top end monster, but it holds it own easily.

You don't know what your talking about whatsoever.

I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?

Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.

Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...

1. Hold on to your panties. .. your making no sence once so ever.

2. These are all our local members so Im not some guy in an ls1 just droping my 2 cents dumbass :rolleyes:

3. Yes I am cool :cool:

That is all . . . goodbye

No, your not.

I own an LT1 and a Lightning...I know what I am talking about.

I race LT1's, LS1's, Mustangs, Imports...only been beat once on the highway by a bud here that goes by Grease. I don't talk about race weight like that alone will enable a spanking.

Well i don't think a stock LT1 can beat a lightning.

I myself have raced one and it was a pretty good race and all the mods i had are the ones in my sig. The lightning was stock down to the paper filter.

From a stop it was pretty much a drivers race till you get to top end and then the lightning will start pulling which was around 90-100.

Me Vs Lightning (http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232074)

So if your car is stock i would be worried. If it had headers and some bolt-ons then i really wouldnt worry about it.

who cares anyways? Fords are crap. It still takes a power adder for ford to put down some serious numbers. When a stock 2004 Stang GT can keep up with a stock 94 LT1 I might give them some respect. Until then to me a Cobra is nothing but a GT with a blower and a Lightnning is nothing but an F150 with a blower. YOu can add the same sh!t to a LT1 and only then would I think it's apples to apples and then the LT1 will spank Ford. Even if the lightning is half a sec faster, it don't mean much since they have 115hp more than a 94 Lt1 and only then can they barely be faster.
I think its pretty embarrising that a LS1 like Twitches and another Convertible LS1 that we know about on this side of the board can hang with an 04 cobra when the LS1's have nothing but a cam and other bolt ons.
If you want to compare apples to apples here's an idea. The camaro and Transam are both GM's secondary pony car (or was) so lets leave them out. Even before the Camaro and Transam left, the Vette was Gm's number one muscle. Throw that up against a Cobra (Ford's number one pony) or the Lightning ,the GT350 or whatever it is called isn't mass produced enough to count. The vette, ALL NA will spank anything in Ford's stable which all have to be Supercharged to be effective.
Until then IMHO the blue Oval is nothing but a circle around the problem.

I guess that 5000lbs of truck means nothing either...and a Cobra is not even in the same league as a plain GT...32 valves, DOHC....

Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.

Do you know anything about Fords?

actually come to think of it.. i think i passed him in 6th.

I guess that 5000lbs of truck means nothing either...and a Cobra is not even in the same league as a plain GT...32 valves, DOHC....

Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.

Do you know anything about Fords?
My comparison was based on an NA versus blown vehicle. I know the internals are different in a Cobra and that puts it into a different league as you say. In that case where do we say we can compare and were we can't. The way I see it apples to apples: You put up a stock GT vs a stock LT1/LS1, the Gt will lose. You put up a Stock Cobra to a Stock Z06, the Cobra will lose. And the vette is NA. As for the truck, yeah 5000lbs supercharged and it can beat a car that is NA ~1500 pounds lighter and if we use your numbers 95hp more than a LT1. Yippee!!! Don't mean sht to me. This is my opinion and we all have one.

As for whether I know anything about Fords? I know enough about them that I know I would never buy one.

As for whether I know anything about Fords? I know enough about them that I know I would never buy one.

I thought that one time too!!!! I love my Lightning and as I posted above (times included) these things are not slow :D :D I pulled the times with a 2000 L (20hp less that 01-04) that is stock down to the paper filter. THOSE TIMES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I thought I read in a post that car and driver could only get 13.8 out of the SRT 10. Sweet ain't it :D

I love em both (Fbods and Lightning) but my Formula has found a nice home under a car cover.

I am not your normal chevy guy...for one, I have a part time job at my local dyno shop doing guess what...I tune Fords, a lot of them.

I know the pro's and con's of each...I also know the power each are putting down stock, a few mods, and all out.

But heh, each there own.

Ok Craig... go race the guy and put an end to this thread.

Ok Craig... go race the guy and put an end to this thread.
haha funny you should ay that im racin him tomrrow night....but he does have a few mods..nothing big though....we shall see :cool: :D

haha funny you should ay that im racin him tomrrow night....but he does have a few mods..nothing big though....we shall see :cool: :D

Be honest ;) I would like to know what happens....

Later

Be honest ;) I would like to know what happens....

Later
i will im kinda nervous but we will see :D ...hmmm maybe matt wants to lend me his t/a for the night...they look the same just sound a tiny bit different

Try to keep her less violent in here boys. Lightning is a alright truck and i am glad to see your guys running strong however i have seen several at my local track struggle for a low 14. But once again not all cars are created equal some run faster then others my lt1 when stock with a y pipe and a intake ran a 13.2 @ 108 on street tires it also dynoed close to 300 at the wheels with just that. But ranting and raving that the lightning will walk a lt1 is a very misguided statement just be happy with it will be a close race. If we go in to the ls1 category given equal drivers it wont even be close :)
Later
Mike

Play nice

all i know is that ive had four different lightnings pick on me on the highway, from a 100k roll and when i drop it in second gear, all the lightnings have seen are my taillights. personally i dont care what they do at the track, all i know is from experience and from a 100k roll my stock lt1 schooled em.

LT1Z28...maybe these guys here believe your story..but I don't race fantasy LT1's with a y-pipe and a intake(which intake also..not like you can just buy one of numerous models)that hit 108. G-tech, right?

93formula...you think you could take my Lightning on the highway...

only one way to find out ford boy. but since your not even local why bother asking numbnuts?


also mikes (lt1z28) numbers were wittnessed by many on this board, at the track not gtech, which must be where you pull your lightnings numbers out of.

LT1Z28...maybe these guys here believe your story..but I don't race fantasy LT1's with a y-pipe and a intake(which intake also..not like you can just buy one of numerous models)that hit 108. G-tech, right?

93formula...you think you could take my Lightning on the highway...

GO HOME !!!

It wasnt fantasy bud its called i can drive lol.
Oh well regardless no one here is going to change his opinion so just let him talk himself to sleep boys so he can carry on his dreams.

Highway on the way to the track and then again, several times, at the track itself.

98 Z28 - 3000 converter, cat-back, lid, slp mids, intake

From 50mph and 60mph the Z got it handed to him. At the track Dustin's Z has gone 12.77 at 109 albeit on DR but averages in the 13.teens on radials.

Canton's Lightning is quick, seriously quick for a truck. He pulls me consistantly on the freeway, I've simply stopped trying for the time being.

Soon enough, i'll take it out though.

LT1Z28...maybe these guys here believe your story..but I don't race fantasy LT1's with a y-pipe and a intake(which intake also..not like you can just buy one of numerous models)that hit 108. G-tech, right?

93formula...you think you could take my Lightning on the highway...

A near stock LT1 running 108mph is no more outrageous then your Lightning doing the same.

Jeez you guys.....LOL at this thread. I havent seen one like this in here for awhile.

Highway on the way to the track and then again, several times, at the track itself.

98 Z28 - 3000 converter, cat-back, lid, slp mids, intake

From 50mph and 60mph the Z got it handed to him. At the track Dustin's Z has gone 12.77 at 109 albeit on DR but averages in the 13.teens on radials.

Canton's Lightning is quick, seriously quick for a truck. He pulls me consistantly on the freeway, I've simply stopped trying for the time being.

Soon enough, i'll take it out though.


your car being an auto could be why it got its ass handed to it on the highway.

You can drive, Mike but you're also huge. I bet you beat seniors up for their lunch money when you werre a freshman! :p :eek:

Last time I checked my Lightning is an auto.

People don't realize how 500rwtq basically the entire rpm curve can get things moving....not a converter flashing...just raw tq.

K boys time to shut her down it aint going no where fast here so lets call it a done post. It was fun while it lasted