A little taste of dodge neon!

Ok Hello everyone. Hot as hell here in Dallas I was pulling out of my freinds apartments when this little yellow car pulls up next to me. Now it was almost 100 degrees humid and this guy has windows down and ready to race. I said ok I have heard of these cars being fast with mods, so I give a little rolling take off and he gets on it im at second he has a tire on me, as soon as I hit 3 I pulled him and he let off, I was amazed . Now I know about neons so I asked him my exact words stage 2 or 3 he looked at me and said your right stage3 turbo upgrade. He said he dynoed over 300 hundred, he told me fastest trans am he has lost to yet, He said thats an ls1. I said no lt1 he said dam the newer camaro/firebirds ls1s dont even give him that good of a race. I even opened my hood and owed him the mighty lt1.:D He was cool and we chatted and drove off. Oh stage 3 is out look down more.

I gotta get me some gears. I pretty much have your set up. Is it really that big a difference versus stock gearing? How's your gas consumption & how much $$ for the 4:10 installed?

I haven't knocked heads yet with turbo neons, it would be nice to remind them of the pecking order once in a while.;)

I'm surprised he didn't do better than that. He should have at least stayed with you. I raced a stage 2 Neon and it pulled 5-7 cars on me from 50-95 mph, with all the mods in my sig. A stage 3 Neon should be trapping 110+.

Bah! Stage 3 from where? Not a Mopar one since it isn't out yet...

Well I looked it up stage 3 is another turbo, he said he had another turbo. As for the 410s yes really woke my car up, I payed 300 foe everything. And im going to track next week its 101degrees out here, im going to take off my system and extra batt its about 250 pounds i hope i will at leat get 8.6 8.5 on street tires. you can see my system at www.expertcaraudio.com scroll thu rides 97 trans am .. red...:D I get about 310 a tank I highway drive with ac of course yes gears really wake them up trust me a whole diffrent world.:bow:

Good Kill, I saw a pretty modded(well looked that way anyway) was pretty loud w/ rims and a ton of stickers...Figure if they run high 13's stock the car had to be able to move w/ any mods...anyway there cool, just not my cup of tea

Originally posted by Zeueses 97 RamAir
Well I looked it up stage 3 is another turbo, he said he had another turbo. As for the 410s yes really woke my car up, I payed 300 foe everything. And im going to track next week its 101degrees out here, im going to take off my system and extra batt its about 250 pounds i hope i will at leat get 8.6 8.5 on street tires. you can see my system at www.expertcaraudio.com scroll thu rides 97 trans am .. red...:D I get about 310 a tank I highway drive with ac of course yes gears really wake them up trust me a whole diffrent world.:bow:

I can't wait to see what you run. Post your trap speeds and e.t.s. That will tell us a lot about the Neon you raced.

Well steve since you claim to beat ls1 so bad on dradials I tell you I run 8.7 at 83mph last time I ran it so dont worry I will post. Maybe I will get some dradials like you and race a awd lancer and get 4 5 car lengths. Oh im dropping 270 300 pounds in car to does that count. Before you start to talk about me like you always do get your story straight before you start asking me. :I have read your thread you need to back yours up before you start talking about me. I have noticed you provoke threads and try to give your opinion and it is just silly. Ok let me break it down for you you have a couple of mods and you run 14.0 you dont even have gears i presume right? and you say you can spank an ls1 4-5 cars maybe if the driver had ****ty reaction time. my car stock with all bolt ons no headers at the time and no tuning was running 8.9 9.0 9.1 all the time with ****ty 60 fts ls1 were hard to beat, I even dynoed the car at that time and dynoed 291 321pounds of torque. Second your car probably dynoes what 230 240 with the mods you have. Thats 50 more horses than your car and I even had a hard time leaving ls1s. I raced a vette till I hit3 which was 90 110 and he passed me like I was standing still. I just am saying before you start to criticize my topic you need to back yours up. See I was not going to say nothing till I felt you were going somewhere with this. Look Steve I will e-mail you the slips, but on one thing run your car and see what you get and then we can compare.:D oh heres my car I say .3 off my times heres the 300 pounds im going tohttp://www.expertcaraudio.com/installs.cfm?Detail=37 dump all my system and batt.

Originally posted by Steve Y
I raced a stage 2 Neon and it pulled 5-7 cars on me from 50-95 mph, with all the mods in my sig.

Remember that you're at altitude, and that affects FI cars much less than N/A cars.

Originally posted by Zeueses 97 RamAir
Well steve since you claim to beat ls1 so bad on dradials I tell you I run 8.7 at 83mph last time I ran it so dont worry I will post. Maybe I will get some dradials like you and race a awd lancer and get 4 5 car lengths. Oh im dropping 270 300 pounds in car to does that count. Before you start to talk about me like you always do get your story straight before you start asking me. :I have read your thread you need to back yours up before you start talking about me. I have noticed you provoke threads and try to give your opinion and it is just silly. Ok let me break it down for you you have a couple of mods and you run 14.0 you dont even have gears i presume right? and you say you can spank an ls1 4-5 cars maybe if the driver had ****ty reaction time. my car stock with all bolt ons no headers at the time and no tuning was running 8.9 9.0 9.1 all the time with ****ty 60 fts ls1 were hard to beat, I even dynoed the car at that time and dynoed 291 321pounds of torque. Second your car probably dynoes what 230 240 with the mods you have. Thats 50 more horses than your car and I even had a hard time leaving ls1s. I raced a vette till I hit3 which was 90 110 and he passed me like I was standing still. I just am saying before you start to criticize my topic you need to back yours up. See I was not going to say nothing till I felt you were going somewhere with this. Look Steve I will e-mail you the slips, but on one thing run your car and see what you get and then we can compare.:D oh heres my car I say .3 off my times heres the 300 pounds im going tohttp://www.expertcaraudio.com/installs.cfm?Detail=37 dump all my system and batt.

I pull LS1s out of the hole only, because of the DRs. My track is hopeless w/o DRs. I never claimed to pull on them from a roll. Cars like mine dyno 230 rwhp bone stock. I probably have 250ish rwhp, 200 lbs. less than stock and great traction. You will not get 4-5 cars on an awd Lancer driven well, out of the hole, even with DRs. The Stage 2 Neon with DRs at my track would pound you silly and you are claiming to beat Stage 3 Neons? :lol:

Hey steve you still want to race the geo It runs 13.9s its about even with your car, oh yea weight reduction also 2600 pounds. Yea to bad you will never be up there in the 300 horsepower range. Look buddy go back up your story because your is so far fetched my mother was laughing, She even read your thread, My mom being a muscle car driver and collector, she laughed and said driver error on the ls1:D Look I never said I would get 4-5 car lengths it was a joke, I was just saying maybe I need to get dradials like you and i was going to drop 300 pounds does that sound good, thats what I meant. Look why dont you just put a superchatger on there and get over 300 then I can probably see your story as being realistic. Ok lets try this say anybody drops 300 to 400 pounds and has about 320 at wheel lets say 1.7 1.8 60ft, my buddys lancer runs 7.8 with 1.7 60ft,my buddies t/a gets the same 60 ft and ends beating him sometimes and he is dynoing at 380 400. 400 on a good day and some tuning, like you are saying I guess it cant be done because awd right lol Look my geo would run your mustang any day and i guarantee you it will give you a run for your money. Anything could happen just like you said in your topic. why dont you get gears and small cam I will even get you a cam my buddie and me work on his 89 model all the time 120 dollars i can get you 270 range, and please dont say your car dynoes 250 my feinds 03 gt dynoes 257 with all bolt ons no headers and his o3 gt and he has a lot more than you so quit speculating and do something you know what I mean. Get you car on a dyno and get true facts. Oh if the the Neons run better than 8.5 8.6 at your track what makes you think if i had dradials I would not run better times you did right, I have done my runs on street tires 8.7 I dont think you have room to talk street tires Oh let me get some drradials lol. Oh you can bring your mustang to my track my geo will dust you probably run 13.7 with slicks lol:bow:

Stage 3 is not available for SRT-4s yet. Stage 2 is only recently available.

he said he upgraded the turbo i know i went on the web and it said tba on stage 3 I know you have to have a stage 2 to have a stage 3. stage 2 is 300 at wheels 265 somehwere there. I wonder how much they weigh.:confused: well stage 3 is out Jim Look at this The Dodge SRT-4 is already a hot number, but Mopar knows that more is better, so the Stage 1, 2 and 3 Turbo Upgrade Kits are out to give you just that! Mopar Performance engineers want the same thing you do--more power…NOW!

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Originally posted by Zeueses 97 RamAir
5007864 2003-04 SRT-4 Stage 3 Turbo Uprgrade Kit TBA
4510256 2003-04 Stage 3 Add-On Kit (for vehicles with Stage 2) TBA

In other words, it's not available yet.

well it has it on sale this site. whats your sn on aol mine is AChokas im me

I don't use AIM.

They may be taking pre-orders for it (to take your money) but believe me, Stage 3 is not available. We waited MONTHS for Stage 2 to come out.

well here is the web site Jim.http://www.campbellenterprises.com/neon_high_performance_parts.htm well there going to be fast need to hurry and put cam in or get some roller rockersand start modding.:D what do you think they will run with stage 2 and 3

Originally posted by Zeueses 97 RamAir
well here is the web site Jim.[url]

And just as Jim said, it's not available. That's what TBA means... To Be Announced. In other words, they don't even have a PRICE yet, so how could the kit possibly be ready to sell?

I know that he had a stage 2 or unless he has some good connections.:D I looked it up and it says to be announced

oh well it was a fast buger.:D

Originally posted by Steve Y
I pull LS1s out of the hole only, because of the DRs. My track is hopeless w/o DRs. I never claimed to pull on them from a roll. Cars like mine dyno 230 rwhp bone stock. I probably have 250ish rwhp, 200 lbs. less than stock and great traction. : Yea good luck, id love to see you pull anywhere near 250 rwhp w/ your mods ...seen a ton of those GT's dyno'ing in the 2 teens/ low 220's stock...They hardly react to bolt ons so how do you figure.

Hey steve you still want to race the geo It runs 13.9s its about even with your car, oh yea weight reduction also 2600 pounds. Yea to bad you will never be up there in the 300 horsepower range. Look buddy go back up your story because your is so far fetched my mother was laughing, She even read your thread, My mom being a muscle car driver and collector, she laughed and said driver error on the ls1:D Look I never said I would get 4-5 car lengths it was a joke, I was just saying maybe I need to get dradials like you and i was going to drop 300 pounds does that sound good, thats what I meant. Look why dont you just put a superchatger on there and get over 300 then I can probably see your story as being realistic. Ok lets try this say anybody drops 300 to 400 pounds and has about 320 at wheel lets say 1.7 1.8 60ft, my buddys lancer runs 7.8 with 1.7 60ft,my buddies t/a gets the same 60 ft and ends beating him sometimes and he is dynoing at 380 400. 400 on a good day and some tuning, like you are saying I guess it cant be done because awd right lol Look my geo would run your mustang any day and i guarantee you it will give you a run for your money. Anything could happen just like you said in your topic. why dont you get gears and small cam I will even get you a cam my buddie and me work on his 89 model all the time 120 dollars i can get you 270 range, and please dont say your car dynoes 250 my feinds 03 gt dynoes 257 with all bolt ons no headers and his o3 gt and he has a lot more than you so quit speculating and do something you know what I mean. Get you car on a dyno and get true facts. Oh if the the Neons run better than 8.5 8.6 at your track what makes you think if i had dradials I would not run better times you did right, I have done my runs on street tires 8.7 I dont think you have room to talk street tires Oh let me get some drradials lol. Oh you can bring your mustang to my track my geo will dust you probably run 13.7 with slicks lol:bow:

I'll run the Geo. Too bad we are so far apart, so it won't happen. Tell your mother to bring a stock LS1 here and I will show her! Car's like mine with all the bolt ons make 270+ rwhp. I said I was guessing I had 250 rwhp. I never said it was gospel. Like i'm going to drive to Texas to dust your 13.9 second Geo. :rolleyes:

Yea good luck, id love to see you pull anywhere near 250 rwhp w/ your mods ...seen a ton of those GT's dyno'ing in the 2 teens/ low 220's stock...They hardly react to bolt ons so how do you figure.

I've seen them dyno 238 rwhp bone stock. You don't think pulleys, ! silencer, K&N, ported intake, and synthetic oils are going to give me 12 rwhp? Pulleys have been proven to give 7 rwhp, K&N 3 rwhp, intake 5 rwhp and oils 5-10 rwhp.

Why dont you get it dynoed and quit speculating, oh my geo has a stage 2 :cool:

And just as Jim said, it's not available. That's what TBA means... To Be Announced. In other words, they don't even have a PRICE yet, so how could the kit possibly be ready to sell?

He's like argueing with a wall. You can't get through to him. He probably raced a stage 1 or stock SRT-4 on street tires. I have a Stage 2 SRT-4 on DRs at my track that would hand him his a**! I am even with this SRT-4 till the 1/8 mile then he puts about 7 cars on me to the 1/4 :dead:. I spank all stock LT1s and have beat all stock LS1s so far at this track for a comparison.

Why dont you get it dynoed and quit speculating, oh my geo has a stage 2 :cool:

Who cares what it dynoes? Send me $100 and I will do it for you! We don't race dynos. Geo :barf: :yuck: :shame:

Why dont you get it dynoed and quit speculating, oh my geo has a stage 2 :cool:Steve I was just curious you have a bachelors in pre med right, ok well do you speculate in that field of work or do you just guess, I would say you have to be right 99.9 percent, Also pre med degree I would be making close to 6 figures or 6 figures, why dont you just get a supercharger on there and get some real horsepower.

Steve I was just curious you have a bachelors in pre med right, ok well do you speculate in that field of work or do you just guess, I would say you have to be right 99.9 percent, Also pre med degree I would be making close to 6 figures or 6 figures, why dont you just get a supercharger on there and get some real horsepower.

Bachelors in Pre-med. To make 6 figures you then need 4 years of med school, internship, residency, then a few years to get everything going your way. I wish I made that kind of $$. I am the General Manager of a manufacturing company right now. I have 2 kids, 2 pets, 2 cars, a new house and a wife in Nursing school, so $$ is tight right now.

He's like argueing with a wall. You can't get through to him. He probably raced a stage 1 or stock SRT-4 on street tires. I have a Stage 2 SRT-4 on DRs at my track that would hand him his a**!

Agreed. What many people forget is that bad air (altitude, heat, humidity) affect forced induction cars less than N/A cars.

Stage 1 stock ah no and steve i dont think your car or your stage 2 neon runs 8.7 on street tires. And I had the a/c on it was 100 degrees that day, and like I said before you cant beat neons dont compare your car to mine, I have like 100 more horses than you at wheel. I think for street tires my car runs good you always brag about your track and what your cars can do there, I should get my dradials like you and drop 300 pounds and get at least.2 out of it, oh but wait i guess dradials dont count right, if you can beat ls1s with dradials so bad what do you think I WILL DO, BUT THAT DOES NOT COUNT RIGHT. I better watch out for mustangs with dradials or neons with dradials. :confused: Look what do you really run in the 1/8 9.4 The neons out here run 9.1 9.2 9.0 8.9 stage 2s so dont think so hard next time after all you have a pre med degree :confused:

Stevey, is your track even a real track or an old abandoned road or runway? In your other threads you say how bad it is and that there is no timing. That does not sound like a real track to me.

Stage 1 stock ah no and steve i dont think your car or your stage 2 neon runs 8.7 on street tires. And I had the a/c on it was 100 degrees that day, and like I said before you cant beat neons dont compare your car to mine, I have like 100 more horses than you at wheel. I think for street tires my car runs good you always brag about your track and what your cars can do there, I should get my dradials like you and drop 300 pounds and get at least.2 out of it, oh but wait i guess dradials dont count right, if you can beat ls1s with dradials so bad what do you think I WILL DO, BUT THAT DOES NOT COUNT RIGHT. I better watch out for mustangs with dradials or neons with dradials. :confused: Look what do you really run in the 1/8 9.4 The neons out here run 9.1 9.2 9.0 8.9 stage 2s so dont think so hard next time after all you have a pre med degree :confused:

I can and will compare anything I like. This is a free country. If you don't agree with me, fine. We can agree to disagree, but don't tell me what I can and cannot do. You have more like 75 rwhp on me and about 400 more pounds than me to lug around. Ever hear of power to weight ratio and traction? Probably not. I never said any of those things didn't count. Don't put words in my mouth to make yourself look better. No, I ran a 14.0 before the last round of mods. Can you read? I don't know what I run now.

Stevey, is your track even a real track or an old abandoned road or runway? In your other threads you say how bad it is and that there is no timing. That does not sound like a real track to me.

It is a brand new grudge racing track. It has a concrete launch pad with tons of rubber on it from the slick cars. It is nearly impossible to get traction on it with street tires. :( There is a light that goes on when it's time to go. No times, no trap speeds, 1/4 mile long, purely grudge racing. www.reno-fernleyraceway.com

these srt-4's can be made fairly quick!!...i recently raced a srt-4 trapping in the 115-117mph range.....i was really surprised!!...although im sure he was expecting to beat me....i managed to stay a car out infront from a 40 roll ....(in my RX-7).... :cool: a real sleeper none the less, really cool owner too...

SRT-4 goes 11.12 @ 132 Vid

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNDU2NjAxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=