Since I am an AC Delco Dealer I just got back from a major AC Delco trip meeting in Philladelphia. One of the guest speakers was in charge of production for the entire GM line. He was giving us inside info about all the new GM Cars coming out. The best part was that they ARE gonna bring back the Camaro and Firebird but only as V8 models. The Camaro will be back as just the SS (maybe Z28) and the Firebird as only the WS-6 Ram-Air and both are gonna have major hp. They don't know exactly what year but they aren't gonna wait long! Some more info is that the new GTO is underrated and really dynoed 350 hp, the new Silverado SS truck coming has over 400hp and he said it would easily beat a Lightning, and the new Cadillac's are underrated and can take on any BMW or Mercedes. All this info had everyone in the room excited. His said GM won't stop until they are #1. All the new cars and trucks are gonna be the best ever made and will perform the best also. I can't wait!!

 

eh...we'll see when they are actually at the dealers, on the street, and down the tracks..

 

I can't see the F-body coming back in V8 only form for the multitude of reasons that SS (the man, not the trim level ) has given. We also know that the Silverado SS will make 345 HP, not 400+ unless of course they heard all the criticism and took it to heart (at GM this would be a first!)

 

Yeah, it all seems a little too unbelievable to me. I hope it's true but I can't really get excited over it.

 

Not that I believe the Camaro part (which is an understatement), but if what you say is true, that would mean that Camaro would be back most likely as a Cobra competitor, and I'm guessing with a Cobra price.

Even if it came back in the price range as the current crop of RWD sporty cars, that's still $30 grand, and not only a healthy jump over previous editions, but without the V6s to subsidize them, more expensive than the new Mustangs as well.

I'm by no means saying you are wrong, but if I'm not mistaken, there's still a gag order on Camaro.

 

Sounds like alot of outdated info.

A year ago the rumor mill was saying that the Siverado SS would have a 400hp s/c 6.0 and the F-body would end up being a more limited production "higher end" model.

 

Ok not trying to flame, but I'm calling a BS. I specifically remember RP saying how the Camaro would have to come back with a V6 model. it doesn’t make sense to bring it back as a low production high end model. Umm can you say vette? When the Maro returns its ganna have to be a lot like the mustang in a sense to work. Its ganna have to sell a ton of V6 models that have daily driver comforts to make bad *** V8 models even a plausible business case. We are ganna need a really good business case if Gm is ever going to produce this car again. Its ganna have to make money. That’s what its all about now. V6 cars will make money so we can have our V8 cars to play with. Ok I think I’m repeating myself but the point is there. Anyone else see what I'm talking about?

 

Maybe the next Monte Carlo will step in to take up more V6 coupe sales and leave enough of a market niche for an all-out V8 Camaro. Even if it is more of a Cobra-competitor, I'd like to see it back. The SS and WS6 were nearly $35k anyways, at it seems I was seeing more of those than regulars Zs and TAs last couple years. If the Monte would have a smaller V8 as an option and be the more affordable performance car, that would be the Mustang GT-level competitor. All of this would allow the Corvette to move more upscale and likely closer to Viper pricing.

Maybe that's all wrong and the BS flag is infact the case, but it would make sense if the Monte Carlo is going rwd--why have two rwd V6 coupes in the same lineup going after the same buyers? At least this way the Camaro isn't being compromised.

 

Thats rumors.

 

The one thing that's known about Camaro (and likely the only thing) is that it & Monte Carlo seem to be tied together, so though I want to disagree, this senario isn't far fetched. It's unlikely I feel, but definately not far fetched.

 

So who was the guest speaker? Is there anybody that is in charge of production for the entire GM line? Gonna need specifics or we're gonna have to raise the old

 

I REALLY like this scenario!!!!!!!

The Camaro could better fulfill it's "Z/28 roots" if this were the case, and would once again gain exclusitivity, while not having to sell volume to stay alive. This would also give the Monte Carlo a much needed sales boost. While putting the Corvette where it SHOULD be in terms of power, and status.

Add in the fact that the Corvette will automatically have to get better to maintain the rule over the XLR, and I think you have a very POSSIBLE scenario.

 

Sorry but

 

Ok I agree that would be cool, but it could only happen if the Monte and Camaro shared the same platform. It wouldn’t make sense to build 20,000 to 30,000 Camaros at a single plant. Once again, when it comes to money that doesn’t work. Right now GM needs to find a way to put the Camaro on Sigma or Sigma lite. That way cost could be spread around on a few different cars. If the Monte went to Sigma variant too as the V6 car I wouldn’t mind. I mean would anybody really miss the V6 Camaro? I wouldn’t, I like mine, but I wish everyday it had a V8. You know the more I think about it the more I like the Monte and Camaro sharing platforms and working together. It was said earlier, why have two V6 cars in Chevy’s line up eating up each other sales? The people who want a nice, practical and comfortable car could go for the Monte and for people like us the Z28 with a massive V8. Ok I rambled a lot, but I think this post is going somewhere.
The only problem I see here is the fact that the Monte’s new platform is already picked out, isn’t it? Do we know what its going to be on, I know we heard RWD. hmmmmmmmmm......

 

I for one don't want to see the corvette move upscale and closer to viper pricing.