STS Turbo

Well it seems all the parts are here. Just waiting for my HP Tuners
VCM Suite. Talked to Resnick to-day, the car will be scheduled to go on the Dyno next week, Mon. or Tues. to get a stock Baseline.
We've got the install scheduled for June 19 with Roy.
Soon we'll see if all the naysayers were right or wrong.

Later Armin

I hope you have bettr luck with Harvey than some of us LS1 did... inaccurate readings. I might have tried SNK.

Can't wait to see your system though, as I'm looking at ATI.

Yes. Chassis Dyno's can give you weird readings sometimes. Thats why engine Dyno's are generally more accurate. I've always had my engines dynoed at Ron Parrs. Even though Ron is a little off the wall he's probably the smartest when it comes to dynoing. Although Jimmy Richmond isn't bad. TRalking to Resnick today He was saying that you should expect to lose about 16 % off your advertised H.P. I find that a little hard to believe that the
tranny and the rear end would gobble up 50 HP. 25 maybe. I expect the car to make between 285 and 300 RWHP.

Armin

Well, it wasn't so much as that Jeepo that we had some probs with. He couldn't get a good ground so the rpms were wacked out of scale and the AFR too. Too much missing data. Broken lines. Tough to tell if I was getting true readings or not.

The numbers weren't accurate compared to other dynos I have used. There was somehting wrong with his technique or machine. I think more the former. Maybe he's solved that....

i think were gonna dyno your car at snk after the install, so i recomend you give them a shot for the baseline. your call.

Where's SNK.

Armin

richmond and they have no trouble with ls1s

I would never take my LS1 anywhere near Resnick.

SNK is on a whole other level of service and friendliness. They are in Richmond near the Steveston Highway.

For some reason I thought Resnick had the only chassis dyno.SNK it is.

Armin

yep, SNK is a chassis dyno & also a DynoJet, Roy wanted me to make you an appointment but you can do it yourself if you wish, I was wanting to go dyno aswell sometime soon so let me know when you want to dyno, I might go earlier though.

I can still do it this week if I can get an appt. I'll let you know to-day.

Armin

Does anyone have the number for SNK. Can't find them in the book.

THx Armin

I'd also like to dyno my LS1 to get a baseline too, maybe we can get a group going? :)

I just talked to Shane at SNK. Monday or Tuesday would be good,
so if anybody is interested let me know.

Armin

Originally posted by Jeepoo
I just talked to Shane at SNK. Monday or Tuesday would be good,
so if anybody is interested let me know.

Armin I work till 3:pm those days and traffic would be bad from Coquitlam to Richmond at that time. I'm off thursday and friday next week if you want to hold off til then? I'd bet your CETA would dyno very close to my 02 firehawk. I'm looking forward to checking out your turbo Armin, LS1's rule, especially a turbo-charged one. I'm also wondering if any of us guys with 02's have the LS6 block in it? During production if they ran out of LS1 blocks they just used LS6 blocks to save time. :D

Hey, I didn't mean to stick out my tongue? Sorry. :p :lol:

Originally posted by Drumhawk
I work till 3:pm those days and traffic would be bad from Coquitlam to Richmond at that time. I'm off thursday and friday next week if you want to hold off til then? I'd bet your CETA would dyno very close to my 02 firehawk. I'm looking forward to checking out your turbo Armin, LS1's rule, especially a turbo-charged one. I'm also wondering if any of us guys with 02's have the LS6 block in it? During production if they ran out of LS1 blocks they just used LS6 blocks to save time. :D

Hey Drum , look for the bullseye on the front of your black , pass side right by the head. Its about 1" x 1" embossed in the block. No bullseye = ls6 block.

Hi Steve

If you like I will set it up for Thursday. Let me know what time isd good for you.

Armin

Originally posted by Jeepoo
Hi Steve

If you like I will set it up for Thursday. Let me know what time isd good for you.

Armin Sure Armin, I'll dyno with you thursday. The best time would be late morning or early afternoon to avoid the dreaded rush hour. I don't know exactly where SNK is though. You pick the time and give me the address and I'll be there for sure, 100% guaranteed. Thanks for putting it off till then Armin. :thumb:

i gotta see this LS1 dyno..

count me in!

By thursday, I might be ready to dyno again, if can get out of work. What time are you doing it? Maybe a few of us could run if SNK has the hours open.

hey armin could you schedule a appt for your post turbo dyno run on the sunday, 20th. early as possible if you can.

Originally posted by Amit
i gotta see this LS1 dyno..

count me in! Good man. See ya there. We still need a time? :confused:

It's set up for Thursday June 17/04 @ 10.00 A.M.
Anybody thats interested can attend.
Please confirm.

Thx.Armin

what time will this dyno go till?

Originally posted by Jeepoo
It's set up for Thursday June 17/04 @ 10.00 A.M.
Anybody thats interested can attend.
Please confirm.

Thx.Armin Confirmed for 10:00 am next thursday, just need the addy? I'm gonna buy some lt headers soon. Leaning towards the SLP headers but might go with QTP's or FLP's? :)

SLP headers :no:

QTP or Kooks are the ones to get.

Originally posted by Amit
SLP headers :no:

QTP or Kooks are the ones to get. That's what I keep hearing, those SLP headers have clearance issues but I have a credit for a couple of c-notes from them. The SLP maf sensor they sent me doesn't fit my Blackwing air-lid. I don't want it anyways so I'm returning it along with the bellows.

imo, the only thing good that came outta SLP aside from the oem sh¡t is the Loudmouth:bow:

The address for SNK is 12280 Trites Rd. Richmond.
I believe you go to the end of #2 RD. (Steveston) near Moncton.

Armin

armin did you also make a appt for the 20th for post turbo dyno time?

Hi Roy

When I was reading some of the stuff on the STS site they said that the turbo will loosen up a bit after a couple of weeks. Do you think this is an issue? If not I can talk to Shane and set something up. Also I was cheking all the stuff the other day and I noticed there is a hole (3/4") in the pipe just in front of where you mount the MAF. ???. Also the blow off Valve has no instructions with it. I'm wondering where the 3/8 hose connects to.

Armin

ill email em now and get your answers soon:)

noone said anything to me about the turbo loosening up, thats news to me, and the hole up front is prolly for the BOV, but i havent seen it yet so i cant say for sure, will let you know tommorow for sure.


how longs the hose? could it be for the oiling system??

well they got back to me tonight:D



The turbo bearings are fairly tight when the turbo is new so as the bearings get worn in, the turbo will spool up quicker. So during the first week of driving the car, the turbo "loosens up" a little and you usually notice that it spools up quicker after its been driven for a while. (It doesn't loosen up and fall off. LOL) The hole in pipe 5 is for the BOV. It is pretty self explanitory. There is an Oring that fits on the flange and the clamp goes around the flange and holds the BOV to the flange. Look in the other end of the box. If you don't open the right end of the box, the instructions may be under the foam on the other side. There is a T fitting that goes inline in the brake booster hose. A 1/4" hose then runs from that T fitting down to the BOV fitting. Try and make it as short as possible. What elevation are you at? The BOV should have a 11 psi spring for any elevation under about 3000 feet. If you are over that, a 9 psi spring is better. These spring pressures don't regulate the boost so don't worry about the psi rating vs boost.

Make sure that the exhaust pipe is cut clean and then deburred so nothing comes off and goes through the turbo. Also, make sure that when they weld up the pipe that they don't burn through or get any little "berries" in the pipe that may dislodge and hit the impeller. You can call us if you have any questions or concerns. Make sure that you read the instruction manual thoroughly and follow it exactly. Make notes of anything that you don't understand or that doesn't flow well so we can make adjustments to the manuals and improve them. Make sure you do the car preps like tune, fuel filter, and gapping plugs, etc before as well as break in the oil pump. Watch connections on the pump and do the electrical system checks at the end. Double check your work and make sure that you do it right the first time. Most problems with installs have been because people haven't followed instructions. Good luck and call if you need assistance or have questions.

Make sure that you TUNE THE CAR! The LS1's have seriously weak fuel systems and aggressive timing maps. They will usually pull knock retard without custom tuning. Monitor your AFR's and KR's. If the computer is pulling any KR, the car is knocking and will damage the pistons. The LT1's and most of our other kits run pretty good right out of the box without much tuning. The LS1's however, need to be tuned. Most guys are running 42# injectors.
HPTuner makes a real good tuning system let me know if you need one or have questions about tuning. I can also get you a Predator and can help you with the tuning via email on that one. That will probably be your cheapest alternative. It is only $150 if you send the programmer back to us after you are done tuning.

Later Roy, Rick @ STS

Originally posted by Jeepoo
The address for SNK is 12280 Trites Rd. Richmond.
I believe you go to the end of #2 RD. (Steveston) near Moncton.

Armin I'm there, who else is going to show up. Thanks for the addy Armin. Weather is lookin so good starting the middle of the week. :cool: