sts vids on ls1 and lt1

93formula
06-07-2004, 02:39 AM
LS1 (http://www.jlturbo.com/vids/ls1turbo1_lowrez.mpg)

LT1 (http://www.discountchips.net/2kss/videos/turbolt1cutshort.mpg)

longer LT1 vid (http://www.discountchips.net/2kss/videos/turbolt1final.mpg)

the lt1 is running 5 psi and ill find out what psi the ls1 is running.

right click save as.

just to give out some ideas on what the sounds of the cars will be.

JD30thZ28
06-07-2004, 02:46 AM
The LT1 file is not working :)

That is loud :thumb:

93formula
06-07-2004, 02:51 AM
try now. theres also a resonator option to quiet it down a bit but i havent heard it yet. thats for some people who want it quieter. personally i think it just sounds killer.

JD30thZ28
06-07-2004, 02:57 AM
I agree, I like the sound of it, I expected it to be quieter. Louder the turbo or supercharger, the better :D

Amit
06-07-2004, 03:19 AM
wow
:eek:

must be expensive

93formula
06-07-2004, 04:04 PM
that ls1 is running 5psi BTW.

StreamlineZ28
06-07-2004, 07:41 PM
maybe its just me but the LS1 in car camera didnt make the car look to fast.

id rather the whine of a supercharger.

i dont like it. looks from the videos like it bogs

93formula
06-07-2004, 08:07 PM
well sound is personal choice, i personally hate the sound of a blower.

as for bog, i watched both vids again, i dont know what your talking about. i cant see it.

and as for how fast it looks from inside the car, not too many vids ive seen make a car look fast when looking thru the windshield. that and from the sound of it, sounds like he only goes thru two gears.

like i said the vids are more for the sound of the car.

Pandamonkey
06-07-2004, 08:19 PM
How effective is the blower when mounted that far away from the engine?
Is there little or no difference?

93formula
06-07-2004, 08:28 PM
thats a turbo, ideally the front mount turbo is more efficient. but the rear mount turbo has been resized by garret to work in the remote mount situation. all the sts turbo users claim to make full boost by 3k rpm.

but with a front mount turbo you add weight up front. add the heat of a turbo up front in the engine bay. additional wieght of the intercooler up front. much more fabrication and worry of melting wires up front. not to mention install times.

the rear mount system is known to be installed in less then four hours, completely bolt on system.

what it comes down to is cost and purpose. the cost of the sts sytem is cheaper then say a PTK kit. and most users of the sts kit arent hardcore 9 second quartermile racers. although as far as i know sts is working on a hardcore kit.

for the average user you wont notice the difference in spool up time from a front mount system to a rear mount system. i think they actually timed spool up time to be offsetted by less then half a second when compared to a front mount system.

so to answer your question, little to no difference:)

talos
06-07-2004, 08:29 PM
its a turbo not a blower... how about lag?

93formula
06-07-2004, 08:31 PM
lag? starts to build boost around 2300 rpm full boost by 3k rpm. not much lag:)

talos
06-07-2004, 08:52 PM
nice... pretty impressive for a setup thats at the rear of the car.

Pandamonkey
06-07-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by talos
its a turbo not a blower...
I was always thinking that a blower is a device that forces air into an engine - be it of the turbo or super variety.........:think:

1quickgt
06-07-2004, 09:10 PM
HOLLY CRAP I WANT ONE!:bow:

93formula
06-07-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Pandamonkey
I was always thinking that a blower is a device that forces air into an engine - be it of the turbo or super variety.........:think:

yeah but superchargers are refered to as blowers and turbos as turbos:D

97TA-WS6-Con
06-07-2004, 10:09 PM
Interesting engineering Roy.

Looked goods to me. Got to say it must be pretty cool / wierd to see the turbo sitting there from behind.

If the ricers ask, you just tell them they are "sequential blowers".

"The turbo spins up at the back forcing blown air up to the front where another turbo spins it up again. i get about 50 #'s of boost"

:)

Camaro ChriSS
06-07-2004, 10:56 PM
Thats one loud hiss. Look forward to hearing Jeepo's when its done.

goldfires
06-09-2004, 01:13 AM
Hmmm... I like. Where can one of these be purchased. Ballpark price?

93formula
06-09-2004, 01:42 AM
i can sell em


the base lt1 kit will run you about 5k CDN. the ls1 kit is a bit more.

KA0S
06-09-2004, 02:47 AM
IMO.:blah:

Ive seen two LS1 vids now and both cars seemed slow. I realize the numbers are there but there is just something lacking with the turbo setup.

93formula
06-09-2004, 03:04 AM
well the guy barely shifts two gears. the owners seem to think there fast. the vids were more for the sound of the cars though not performance, but as you can see/hear not much spoolup time at all. and it is at 5 psi.

1quickgt
06-10-2004, 11:44 PM
what kinda exhaust they have sounds alot liek borla...but better:eek:

93formula
06-11-2004, 12:25 AM
no exhaust, the sound produced is from the exhaust exiting the wastegate and out.

talos
06-11-2004, 12:58 AM
best aircare loooooves that.

93formula
06-11-2004, 01:16 AM
its emmisions legal, its even getting a CARB number very soon.

i should clarify, the sound is not thru the wastegate till its up past its boost level. the exhaust spins the impeller that spins another impeller that sucks in the air and forces it thru back to the engine. now that exhaust that spins the first impeller is is exited out the tail pipe. when you aircare it shouldnt build enough boost on the rollers to open the wastgate.


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1badasZ
06-11-2004, 10:05 PM
can you run it with stock compression or is it better to lower it. and if possible can you make more than 5 lbs. with it? also do either of those guys have some 1/4 mile times?

Amit
06-11-2004, 10:40 PM
i think the exhaust soundssort of unrefined...

but its not raspy.. which is cool i guess.

93formula
06-11-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by 1badasZ
can you run it with stock compression or is it better to lower it. and if possible can you make more than 5 lbs. with it? also do either of those guys have some 1/4 mile times?

yes you can run it with stock compression, but with any blower/turbo setup i wouldnt reccomend more then 8-9 psi with the methanol injection on a stock block. it is always better to lower the compression so you can run more boost. the turbos are capable of making over 600 rwhp, and 15 psi. no quartermile times yet, but im sure well get some this racing season.