Question

raz0r6
05-20-2004, 10:35 PM
sorry for the caps

haha any ways

im considering getting a ta or a z28 or ss

give me some pros and cons of the ls1 with m-6 and ls1 with A4


that and what is the difference between a regular transam and a Ws6 and then a Formula

what makes them all different?

thanks

Kyle

Capn Pete
05-20-2004, 11:07 PM
give me some pros and cons of the ls1 with m-6 and ls1 with A4
I won't get into M6 vs. A4. Do a SEARCH if you want to learn more:p.....it's been discussed 1,000,000+ times!:D Basically, they are both equally fast, and it's a drivers' race between 2 equally modded cars:cool:. The LS1 engine kicks a$$ though:thumb:.

that and what is the difference between a regular transam and a Ws6 and then a Formula
A Formula is basically like a base Z28. It is simply a Firebird with the V8 instead of the V6, and they come with the least amount of options, unless you add the options to them (ie: leather, power windows/locks, etc.). Maybe I'm wrong though?:confused: The Trans-Am is the upgraded V8 Firebird. It has a different front end (fog lights in the center) and AFAIK, Trans-Ams usually come fully loaded. The WS6 is a package for Trans-Ams, and is like the Camaro SS of Firebirds. They come with 17" rims, a functioning "Ram-Air" hood, and an upgraded exhaust system.

what makes them all different?
Mostly appearance. They all have the same LS1, just that the SS or WS6 come factory with a slightly better intake & exhaust, but any Formula, Trans-Am or Z28 with an aftermarket lid & exhaust will perform equal or better to the SS / WS6. Don't choose a car based on what the differences are on paper. Pick the car with the appearance and options that you prefer;).

Strahley
05-20-2004, 11:39 PM
Appearance is really the only difference. Many people will argue for days that there is such a HUGE difference, it's sad really

I've seen stock Z28s and Formulas that hit 12s stock (mine did)
I've seen stock SS and WS6 cars that can't get any better than 14s with good air, regardless of driver

And I've seen it the other way around, too

Capn Pete
05-20-2004, 11:48 PM
Damn Strahley!:eek: You got one of the good ones!!:thumb:

Zdriven
05-21-2004, 06:36 AM
The major difference between the upgrades is the
suspension and option levels available.

The motor is the same in all V8 cars.

The T/A has stiffer (or progressive rate) springs, larger
sway bars, different calibration for shocks and stiffer
durometor bushings.

I've heard it both ways, that the suspension makes a huge
difference and that it doesn't.

It comes down to personal preferance.

trackbird
05-21-2004, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Zdriven
The major difference between the upgrades is the
suspension and option levels available.

The motor is the same in all V8 cars.

The T/A has stiffer (or progressive rate) springs, larger
sway bars, different calibration for shocks and stiffer
durometor bushings.

I've heard it both ways, that the suspension makes a huge
difference and that it doesn't.

It comes down to personal preferance.

If you plan to change all of the suspension parts (like I did), then start with a Z28 or a formula. If you just want to drive it, or like the looks of the T/A or SS, then start with that one.

darrens99formul
05-21-2004, 01:27 PM
A4's are easier to launch, easier in heavy traffic and better for drag racing. They are only better for drag racing because with the addition of a high stall torque converter they can launch like a mofo and they are far more forgiving on the stock 10 bolt rearend. They came with either 2.73 gears or the optional 3.23 gears. A4's make great daily drivers and drag race cars.

M6's are faster in the manner that they have less drivetrain loss so they will trap a tad higher and dyno slightly better. They also come with better gears (3.42's vs autos with 2.73's or 3.23's). M6's make better gas milage especially on the highway. M6's make great daily drivers, roadcourse, autox and weekend fun cars. They can be good drag race cars as well it just takes more money, patience and practice to get a 11 second slip then it does with an auto.

Formulas are the stripped down version. They have the Firebird body (no raised spoiler or ground affects) and the 5.7L V8 engine. The main advantage of the Formula is it weighs less then a TA so they make good drag racing cars.

Trans Ams have the same engine, tranny & gears as the Formula but came with more standard features and the main difference was the body style change. Namely the ground affects, spoiler and the front end is slightly different. They look a bit cooler (subjective to personal preference of course), weigh a tad more and cost a tad more.

WS-6 is a performance package you could get on a TA or Formula although it's much more common to see on TA's. They beefed up the suspension, added the wicked looking ram air hood, raised the airbox to accomodate the hood and I believe it had a better flowing exhaust. WS6's added a few horses but they also weighed more I think. They were really more of an appearance package IMO then a performance package.

Best setup IMO is a Formula with a light weight aftermarket ram air hood. But an original Formula WS-6 is nice too ;)

Hope that helps

coogsLS1
05-22-2004, 03:05 AM
just get what you want, if you really want a M6 like I did...get one. Dont settle for anything you dont want or you will be dissapointed later