Who would be on top?

Hawk350
05-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Ok, Monday I am finishing my install on the heads and cam....with the mods in my sig, how will my baby perform against a cobra or z06....considering I get traction....and what about on the highway? Just curious and dying to drive her tuesday for the first time:D

BiGGinZ
05-08-2004, 09:46 PM
It is hard for me to say. I believe you could beat a stock cobra with traction if you are a good driver. I believe it would be a close race with a z06. Do you have a cai or anything else you are leaving out? You should get a 12 bolt or some suspension mods next then I say you will be ok.

Hawk350
05-08-2004, 10:11 PM
Thats the plan next....suspension mods that is....from a stand still I think it would be close but from a roll, I think I wouls walk a vette but we will just have to wait and see.

HeavyChevySS
05-09-2004, 07:43 AM
congrats on the heads / cam. can't really say about the prediction though cause you never know what kinda power improvement your gonna get from a NON CNC head job. You will definately get a bump in power though and that cam is pretty healthy. good luck and enjoy...

heavy

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 12:35 PM
Thanks guys, I am excited as heck....I will post vids and sound clips as soon as I get her back this week.

NBS4
05-09-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
Ok, Monday I am finishing my install on the heads and cam....with the mods in my sig, how will my baby perform against a cobra or z06....considering I get traction....and what about on the highway? Just curious and dying to drive her tuesday for the first time:D

It's going to be close. I'm not sure how many LT1's run with those mods so i can't determine. The Time in my sig was for a Bone Stock Cobra with just 555 Street Tires and 600 Miles on the clock.

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 01:00 PM
Well, the cobras are fast, no doubt...my brother just bought a 2004 white convt. From my engine builter and a few of my friends with modded 350's and 383's, they say with the cam and mods I should see 115-118 trap speeds in the 1/4....I need to get new rubber and then I will dyno her....and this summer I will run her at the track to see what she is capable of....I know it's difficult to tell how she will compete against other 12 sec cars and the driver...well that is another story....

NBS4
05-09-2004, 01:03 PM
If you'll be trapping 115-118.. You'll beat a Stock Cobra. If the cobra has Basic Mods.. IE... Chip and Pulley.. He'll walk you. Most Chip and pulley Cobra's pull 120+

Antz97ZNJ
05-09-2004, 07:17 PM
stock cobra shouldnt be a problem, a z06 will give you a good run

hsyr
05-09-2004, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by NBS4
If you'll be trapping 115-118.. You'll beat a Stock Cobra. If the cobra has Basic Mods.. IE... Chip and Pulley.. He'll walk you. Most Chip and pulley Cobra's pull 120+

I doubt with just a PCM tune and pulley a new cobra will trap 120+mph. Maybe with full exhast, CAI, and a good driver.

NBS4
05-09-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by hsyr
I doubt with just a PCM tune and pulley a new cobra will trap 120+mph. Maybe with full exhast, CAI, and a good driver.

There's guys with X pipes, CAI's and Catbacks, Pulleys and Chip reburn's pulling 122+Mph trap speeds. The majority of good drivers are over 120 with all those mods.

The majority with just a 2.8, CAI and Chip reburn are 118+

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 10:10 PM
Kenny Belle cobras are trapping 120+, not the ones with a chip and pulley...those are right areound 115-118...

NBS4
05-09-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
Kenny Belle cobras are trapping 120+, not the ones with a chip and pulley...those are right areound 115-118...

I have a Video of a Kenne Bell Cobra running 19Psi that Pulled 129Mph in the quarter mile. You're mistaken.. I'm right about this.. Trust me. :)

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by NBS4
I have a Video of a Kenne Bell Cobra running 19Psi that Pulled 129Mph in the quarter mile. You're mistaken.. I'm right about this.. Trust me. :)

19lbs of boost on a stock bottom end is hard to believe:rolleyes:

87camracer
05-09-2004, 10:21 PM
i think you may be close to the cobra and MAYBE if the planets align right you might pull a car. but as far as a z06 no way. the vette will trap 115-120 stock. ive see one trap 118 with just a good driver and drag slicks. and that cam is smaller than the hotcam as far as lift goes, it just has more duration. i dont see you trapping 118.

NBS4
05-09-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
19lbs of boost on a stock bottom end is hard to believe:rolleyes:

You have no clue about the Terminator block do you? The Cobra Block comes from the Factory with Forged Pistons and Manley Rods. People have already topped 1000 horsepower on the stock Shortblock.

If you'd like i could gladly link you to various dyno graphs and video's of Kenne Bell and Procharger Blown Cobra's at 19+ Psi on pump Gas.

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 10:23 PM
stock z06 trapping 120, thats the funnies reply I have heard yet...

87camracer
05-09-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
stock z06 trapping 118, thats the funnies reply I have heard yet...

go search the z06 boards if you dont believe me. his name is Jrod. outstanding driver he is.

Hawk350
05-09-2004, 10:53 PM
yeah, I did, maybe his z06 is one in a 1000....I have yet to see an average driver pull1.5 60 ft times...:rolleyes:

87camracer
05-09-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
yeah, I did, maybe his z06 is one in a 1000....I have yet to see an average driver pull1.5 60 ft times...:rolleyes:

um im sorry, refresh my memory here, where did i say he was an average driver?

Antz97ZNJ
05-09-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Hawk350
19lbs of boost on a stock bottom end is hard to believe:rolleyes: Whys it hard to believe, the new cobras are forged iron blocks :confused:

NBS4
05-10-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Antz97ZNJ
Whys it hard to believe, the new cobras are forged iron blocks :confused:

Antz,

He's simply clueless about the Cobra. Pretty Typical these days

COMNBYU
05-10-2004, 01:48 PM
To many variables...

If you can't pull 11.5-11.7s on a tire with a h/c/+ all bolt ons LT1 @ around 115-117, than somethings wrong. I've seen too many cars with your set up make runs down the 1320 to say any different.

That said, assuming your car would have simular ET/MPH, a stock to MILDLY modded Cobra shouldn't be a problem (again a lot of variables). Worst case senerio, a lightly modded w/ good driver Cobra would be a good run.

A stock '02+ Z06 should be a good run depending on the variables, mainly the driver and whether or not its dig/roll, etc. You could walk all over him, it just depends.



Jon