what was the tranny called in the 92 camaro's?

maddog89
04-24-2004, 02:47 PM
were they world class t5's? 92 rs is the car 305
does borg warner make them? any info on a rebuild kit for them? thanks

RedIrocZ-28
04-24-2004, 02:50 PM
You are correct, WC T5 made by Borg Warner if I am not mistaken.

92RS305#2
04-24-2004, 04:40 PM
t5's in the manuals and 700R4's in the autos. thats the extent of my knowledge on em ;)

Marc 85Z28
04-25-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by 92RS305#2
700R4's in the autos. thats the extent of my knowledge on em ;)

They were called 4L60s then.

92RS305#2
04-25-2004, 08:09 PM
shows what i know eh :lol:

Stiers
04-25-2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
They were called 4L60s then.


No they weren't. They are called 4L60s starting in '93 with the 4th gen cars.

Here is the RPO code that is in my '92:

MD8 : TRANSMISSION, AUTO 4 SPD, THM 700 R4

The RPO code for the 4L60s is diffrent.

camaroguy94
04-26-2004, 01:20 AM
no, 4L60 was correct for 92 and up to 93. In 94 they were called 4L60E

Marc 85Z28
04-26-2004, 11:13 AM
Beginning in 1991 GM changed all of its automatic transmission designations. The TH700-R4 became the 4L60. The newer names were essentially a code for determining the transmission. The 4 meant 4 forward gears. The L meant it was a longitudinally mounted trans, aka rear wheel/4 wheel drive. The last two 2 numbers designated the duty rating, or strength of the trans. The higher the number the stronger the trans.

So GM called the 700 a TH700-R4 until 1990. GM then called them 4L60s. So technically the 91-93 units never were called TH700-R4, even though the are the same transmission.

On a side note, nearly all auto manufacturers have done the same thing. All in the early to mid 90s too.

TheGreatJ
04-26-2004, 07:43 PM
Marc has it straight on this one. The reason for the way the RPO reads is simple: GM didn't want to mess with changing it for just 1-2 production years.....the 4th gen redesign was already in the works.

thork
10-24-2004, 12:17 AM
Hmm, here's my RPO code in my 93 z28

"MD8", which according to fbodmotorsports.com, is the code for "THM 700 R4 auto tranny".

:confused:

I have the 3.23 gear ratio option as well, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Also, in the 93, it seems like I have the older, yellowish gauges from the 3rd Gen's.

Again, I am new to Camaros, but maybe 93 still had some of the same parts/RPO codes as the older Fbodys?

-Thor K.

Ben91RS
10-24-2004, 04:55 PM
You have a 700R4, but since your car is a 93, it's designated 4L60. Basically, a 4L60 is a 700R4, just with a different name. GM put 700R4s in vehicles from 1984 or so, till 1993. They just changed the name, in 1991, to 4L60. Does that answer your question?

thork
10-24-2004, 06:00 PM
Wasn't really a question, I was just trying to provide more info ehhe. But yes, it helps out a bit, thanks. ;)

Ben91RS
10-24-2004, 10:01 PM
Oh OK, I understand now :thumb:

Tru2Chevy
10-25-2004, 02:15 PM
Hmm, here's my RPO code in my 93 z28

"MD8", which according to fbodmotorsports.com, is the code for "THM 700 R4 auto tranny".

:confused:

I have the 3.23 gear ratio option as well, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Also, in the 93, it seems like I have the older, yellowish gauges from the 3rd Gen's.

Again, I am new to Camaros, but maybe 93 still had some of the same parts/RPO codes as the older Fbodys?

-Thor K.

Yea, in a lot of ways the '93 F-bodies were like a 3rd gen with updated skin.

- Justin

shady54
10-25-2004, 04:43 PM
Yea, in a lot of ways the '93 F-bodies were like a 3rd gen with updated skin.

- Justin

And engine and transmission if you have the 6 speed. witch was the best part :bow:

Marc 85Z28
10-26-2004, 04:38 PM
Yea, in a lot of ways the '93 F-bodies were like a 3rd gen with updated skin.

- Justin

With the exception of a completely different front suspension, the new Gen II smallblock with a completely new intake design, completely redesigned interior and exterior, and some other misc items. Other than that, they're alike :p

Scrote
10-26-2004, 11:49 PM
Beginning in 1991 GM changed all of its automatic transmission designations. The TH700-R4 became the 4L60. The newer names were essentially a code for determining the transmission. The 4 meant 4 forward gears. The L meant it was a longitudinally mounted trans, aka rear wheel/4 wheel drive. The last two 2 numbers designated the duty rating, or strength of the trans. The higher the number the stronger the trans.

So GM called the 700 a TH700-R4 until 1990. GM then called them 4L60s. So technically the 91-93 units never were called TH700-R4, even though the are the same transmission.

On a side note, nearly all auto manufacturers have done the same thing. All in the early to mid 90s too.


FINALLY someone else that understands...man. I always get so much crap from people..."no jackass my third gen has a 700r4 not a 4L60...those are the ones that the fourth gens have...." I get that all the time.....

Tru2Chevy
10-27-2004, 02:01 PM
With the exception of a completely different front suspension, the new Gen II smallblock with a completely new intake design, completely redesigned interior and exterior, and some other misc items. Other than that, they're alike :p

:p

I didn't say in all ways....just in several ways.

- Justin

Z28SORR
10-27-2004, 02:14 PM
:p

I didn't say in all ways....just in several ways.

- Justin

Well yah! They're both Camaro's, they both are front engine rear wheel drive, they're both built by GM. I quess that's several ways.

Z28SORR
10-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Oh, and just to add to the confussion, they're not BW any more they're TREMEC. That's the 5 and 6 speeds.

Tru2Chevy
10-27-2004, 02:19 PM
Well yah! They're both Camaro's, they both are front engine rear wheel drive, they're both built by GM. I quess that's several ways.

Identical rear suspension setup, same driveshaft, same auto tranny, same chip-based computer.....

- Justin

Z28SORR
10-27-2004, 03:04 PM
Identical rear suspension setup, same driveshaft, same auto tranny, same chip-based computer.....

- Justin

Well there you go! Some more; both have two doors, a hatch back, beat Fords, gas tank in the same location, fuel door's on the left.
How far we going to carry this? :D