HSR vs. miniram vs. superram and N/A or boost?

this is probally a very abused post but i was wondering what you guys recommended, i hate how my car has no power past 4500 rpm and its because of the extermely long runners. i want to know what you have experience with and would prefer i think my order of miniram,HSR, then accel/Lingenfelter but i have nothing to go by in terms of choice except what each manufacturer says. i am thinking the miniram is looking the best becuase you can use it with fast burn heads which i also really like, but what are the pros and cons of each? also to complicate this matter even more should i go N/A or boost (turbo), my car is just going to be street driven but my friend has a turbo civic and it runs like low 12s and i really hate being left behind when we are messing around on the street if you guys see where im coming from... thanks


*eric*

how much money do you have?

personally id go with the LT1 intake ( www.lt1intake.com ) and homemade boost....
but im broke and want to go really fast.


if i was a rich guy with 15 thousand to pour into the engine, id go with a miniram and a turbo setup.

athough i feel a miniram is a waste of money.

http://www.stealthram.com/

Although I do disagree with them in that I think the SR setup is pretty decent for more than stock. I am using the SR now but when I go to a more radical cam, I think I will go with the HSR for a while to see if I like it.

i would rather go with a hsr/sc setup. mini ram is too much $$$ IMO, and i would rather spend the extra money on something else to make my car even faster. when it comes to turbos vs. supercharger, i'd rather go s/c.

i was also one thinking that the miniram is too expenive but my only deterrent is the fact that its not available for the vortec heads but i searched past posts and there looks like there might be hope and if they dont end up making the vortec kit what else is there along the lines of a head that is as good for the same price range? and along the lines of a turbo kit i was looking at bbs designs single turbo kit, i think they would complement each other well... any other thoughts? rigth now im all stock except for exhaust and modded air box (whohoo..) and im just doing research right now... hopefully when i set secure in my job and get some student loans payed off i can play! thank you everyone for your insight right now im open to anythuing right now becuase i have a little bit of time before i have to decide what i want to do for sure...

*eric*

Originally posted by breakthelawinaz
i was also one thinking that the miniram is too expenive but my only deterrent is the fact that its not available for the vortec heads but i searched past posts and there looks like there might be hope and if they dont end up making the vortec kit what else is there along the lines of a head that is as good for the same price range? and along the lines of a turbo kit i was looking at bbs designs single turbo kit, i think they would complement each other well... any other thoughts? rigth now im all stock except for exhaust and modded air box (whohoo..) and im just doing research right now... hopefully when i set secure in my job and get some student loans payed off i can play! thank you everyone for your insight right now im open to anythuing right now becuase i have a little bit of time before i have to decide what i want to do for sure...

*eric*


heres why they dont need to(and never will) make a vortec miniram:

vortec heads are truck heads.


granted, they are killer stock heads. better then double humps of yesteryear. they are GREAT for budget buildups.
but just that.
BUDGET buildups.

the miniram is about the most expencive intake you can buy for a small block chevy short of a big roots blower.

anyone that has the cash to buy a miniram and build the high RPM motor to take advantage of it, also has the money to buy performance heads. and most performance heads dont have the vortec pattern. they have the standard pattern.


if you're going to go all out with a turbo kit, then get some great heads and whatever intake you want...

but if you're looking for a budget FI intake, the LT1 is the cheapest with the HSR as a close second. both of them TOGETHER are still cheaper then the miniram.


edit:
your only option that i know of for the vortec heads and EFI is the SD vortech TPI base.
or if you're going carb, theres a bunch to choose from.
if its a budge build, you're probly going carb and you can chose from one of thoes.
otherwise, i would just stick to some better heads... used iron eagles arnt much more then vortecs...... and they let you run whatever intake you want.

The problem with Vortecs is that no one will make a manifold for it except SDPC and that is what you are stuck with. That is why I won't buy Vortec heads besides the fact they are aluminum and lighter as a pari then a single Vortec head

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrDude_1
[B]heres why they dont need to(and never will) make a vortec miniram:

vortec heads are truck heads.


granted, they are killer stock heads. better then double humps of yesteryear. they are GREAT for budget buildups.
but just that.
BUDGET buildups.

the miniram is about the most expencive intake you can buy for a small block chevy short of a big roots blower.

anyone that has the cash to buy a miniram and build the high RPM motor to take advantage of it, also has the money to buy performance heads. and most performance heads dont have the vortec pattern. they have the standard pattern.


but they do make a miniram for vortec heards its called the miniram III part number 500-530

sorry!

*eric*

so everyone so far has convinced me to the HSR unless i use the modded LT1, im a machinist and could do it but im too lazy and id just rather bolt one on, id rather spend the time building a turbo kit... thats just me though...

*eric*

my fastburn heads work really nice although they have had alot of work done to them....same with the MR3.

the miniram is way overpriced for what it is though.....i'd go superram if i were to do it again.

just remember that if your going to go with a turbo... you need to do MAJOR traction mods in order to hook

Originally posted by dj haf
just remember that if your going to go with a turbo... you need to do MAJOR traction mods in order to hook

yeah... ill have to deal with that sometime... huh? well i guess ill just have to sell my girlfriend ;) j/k yeah im working on that... one thing at a time!!

*eric*

Originally posted by breakthelawinaz
yeah... ill have to deal with that sometime... huh? well i guess ill just have to sell my girlfriend ;) j/k yeah im working on that... one thing at a time!!

*eric*

If you are going to sell your GF, please put her in the "For Sale" section of the forum along with the price and a pic of the product for sale. Also state if you will deliver or collect and what the approx price of deliver is.

I think with a turbo, you could get one that kicks in a little later than at say 2000 RPM so you might be able to get away with some traction enhancing devices.

i was kinda hoping that when i get it, i actually HAD a little lag, i would definately be to my advantage and i want it to be smooth, not hit, the L98 already has plenty of torque, so lag is welcome... and i dont think that i am going to rev past like 6000 so it will be interesting to say the least but right now im just worried about getting this project done before i worry about getting traction...

about the girlfriend, i dont think she would let me sell her or post the pictures i have.. well atleast a couple of them... :D

*eric*

What turbo are you using and do you have an intercooler? I know the intercooler made a huge pressure drop on my Merkur XR4Ti becauuse it cooled the air a lot. The turbo could be glowing red hot and you could hold the pipe after the intercooler that was going into the TB. That allowed me to run more boost and get more air. I ran a T3/T4 turbo.

im not sure yet, i havnt decided, i was thinking the big 60-1 with the 4" inlet on the compressor side and definately going to run an intercooler, it would be stupid of me not to!

*eric*