So, I removed my front and rear bumper supports

12secondv6
09-18-2002, 06:58 AM
Special thanks to camaro_zach from www.firebirdv6.com
http://mavness.com/camarozach/carpics.htm
He posted pics on it and yesterday I was motivated.
I've always heard soooo much about it but no one ever posted pics.
The whole thing took 3 hours.
1.5 hours for the front and 1.5 hours for the rear.
Front bumper support was 24.5 pounds
Rear bumper support was 20 pounds

Since I am desperately trying to hit 11's before the end of the season weight is a concern
I also removed my sub woofer for 13 pounds
Grand total 57.5 pounds today!!!
Previous best track weight was 3240 with 2 front seats and 1/2 tank of gas w/o driver of course.
I still have to install my light weight racing seats out of my 72 chevelle instead of my stock cloth seats.
I think the stock ones weigh 33 pounds?
I'm guessing that 1 of my light weight seats weigh in at 20 pounds
So, when I go for 11's I'll only run 1 seat in the bird
66 pounds gone from stock seats, 20 pounds put back for light weight seat, 46 pounds lost
Just over 100 pounds from supports and seats. Best part is it cost me nothing :D
Wooo hoooooo

I know people immediately say this is stupid for a daily driven car. I agree. I am trying to see 11's. Once E town closes up for the season I'll put them back in.
Last time at the track for a photo shoot for high performance pontiac I launched with my et streets, pulled a 1.630 60 foot with 323 gears. My buddies said they saw a glimpse of light under my drivers side front skinny (unfortunately no photo proof).
Top end though I lost my fuel solenoid and tranny and went 12.6 at 103 :( The tranny was on its last legs also. I could only run high 14's all motor.

I've gotten my tranny built to all hell. It is built to handle a 10 second car, not that mine will ever see those numbers.
I'm waiting on my fuel solenoid to come back from TNT.


Sure, I know it is only a v6 but it sure is fun!!!
I just wanted to post this.
Last time I was asking about k member's and a arms, so, I went out and bought the mild steel light weight drag k member, light weight mild steel lower a arms, and a manual steering rack.
Yes, I need a hobbie :D

TedH
09-18-2002, 07:34 AM
Just as long as you are aware that your gas tank is now sitting behind a thin shield of plastic and nothing else... It is just a flammable target in the event of you being hit from behind.

CANTONRACER
09-18-2002, 11:55 AM
I really doubt that the rear bumper support would stop anything over 5 MPH. It is a cheap piece of plasitc.

1FastRedZ
09-18-2002, 03:27 PM
I pulled out my spare tire, jack, back seat, front and rear supports, front sway bar, and the car went from 8.70's on motor to a 8.495. Next thing is the padding underneath the carpet thats another 30 or so lbs. I also have my muffler welded to the y-pipe and saved 50 lbs in exhaust. The car still weighs 3300 lbs. The sway bar helped it hook alot better it cuts 1.7" 60' with stock suspension and DR's no problem. And it's a 6-speed :D

taner
09-20-2002, 06:30 PM
james,

just wondering if removing these pieces affected the way the bumper sits on the car, does it say anywhere or look funny in any way?

thanks
taner

Injuneer
09-21-2002, 12:53 AM
Ditto on the "how's it look" question????? Particularly interested in your results with the Firebird front end, given its the same as mine. I've seen a 97 Camaro with the front support removed, but that car included a custom made light weight tubular frame to support the rubber cover.

12secondv6
09-21-2002, 04:01 AM
Honestly everything looks normal.
you can't even notice it.
Although don't lean on it :D
I just put my hand on the nose and it squishes down.
Hitting the track n/a tomorrow.
I'll weigh the bird again

taner
09-21-2002, 10:14 AM
well the rear is out now to yank the front. i also installed a Scosche dry cell battery, that netted me another 9 pounds. they had one size smaller but i am unsure if it would've been enough to power the car.

i am gonna see if i can cut the front piece up so i can install maybe a couple of pieces to provide support for the bumper.

Dragon Racing
09-25-2002, 04:42 PM
I just gutted my front bumper out last night. It doesnt look any different from the outside as it did before. Like someone else said, DONT LEAN ON IT! Also, for those that have removed the front supports, how did you mount your fog lights? I think i'm just gonna keep mine off and run a pipe from one hole to my cai and another pipe to my tranny cooler.

CANTONRACER
09-25-2002, 04:55 PM
Just take a piece of lightweight metal and bend it to fit and drill holes. Took me about 15 minutes at most to get it fitted and on.

12secondv6
09-26-2002, 01:49 AM
New curb weight!!!
Last time before the recent weight reduction was 3240 pounds
Now it is 3144 pounds!!!!
Damn!!!!
I removed front and rear bumper supports, mtx single 10 inch sub with thunderform box, and less gas in the bird.

not bad huh?
I still have my air conditioning system, stock hood, stock cloth seats, full size battery :D

taner
09-26-2002, 08:09 AM
i am anxious to see what mine weighs as well, i will have my pcm tonight, and look forward to getting it to a scale.