97 Z28 vs Mach 1

I caught up to a red mach 1 on 84, with clear road infront of us. My friend had a video camera, but his dad called him right as I was pulling up next to the mach 1. I was sitting there patiently at 60 waitin for him to make the first move, but he kept jumpin but not takin off. So I punch it at 60, side by side, and instantly start pullin him. I let off at 120 with a good 3 car lead on him. I think it was an M5 by the way it was jumpin next to me, cut I couldn't hear it over my exhaust. I was expecting it to be closer, and I wanted to talk to the guy but he hung back after that and turned right. I was expecting it to be closer, but I'm thrilled with the results.

Cliff notes
Bolton 97 Z28 puts 3 cars on mach 1

Nice kill, I hope to have some mach 1's under my belt with a bolt on car.

-Dustin-

Good kill. Sometimes getting the jump on someobody can account for 1-2 cars due to reaction or having to manually downshift after the other guy took off.

nice kill,must have been a stock mach.I know my mach is so much faster than my 94Z,but modded those LT1's really wake up.

Originally posted by RealQuick
Good kill. Sometimes getting the jump on someobody can account for 1-2 cars due to reaction or having to manually downshift after the other guy took off.
We left pretty even, I was tryin to let him get the hit, but he just kept goosin it next to me. So I punched it, and when he heard it downshift he hit it too, I would say it was a pretty damn even start.

Nice kill.

good kill :thumb: nice bolt on times BTW

i had a mach 1 pull up on me once and when he saw i wasnt going to race he tried to show off and stuck it into a bridge piller at 90 mph always more fun at the track but street racing happens i know there are times i cant resist

nice kill
i had a mach 1 beat me once but i am a better driver now so i think i could take it

There pretty sick cars, basically racing a 96-98 cobra in different clothing. I've only raced one and beat him pretty bad, but the guy could not drive worth a crap. My 8.9 to his 9.4, a good bolt on lt1 will at least be side by side with one on the highway.

Originally posted by white97z/28
There pretty sick cars, basically racing a 96-98 cobra in different clothing. I've only raced one and beat him pretty bad, but the guy could not drive worth a crap. My 8.9 to his 9.4, a good bolt on lt1 will at least be side by side with one on the highway.
A mach 1 would walk all over a 96-98 cobra. They are even faster than the 99-01 cobras, a guy on ls2.com is claiming he ran a 12.9 stock.

yo speed demon what does your car look like, i live in davie also, white ss

Just a plain old red Z28 with 00+ style wheels on it, and the chrome hooker exhaust tips. Where in davie are you? I'm in ivanhoe, between griffen and sheridan on volunteer road.

the fastest ive seen a stock mac 1 go at the track was 13.3 at 104 on drag radials
the fastest ive seen a stock 96 cobra run is like a 14.5 or so

Originally posted by speed_demon24
Just a plain old red Z28 with 00+ style wheels on it, and the chrome hooker exhaust tips. Where in davie are you? I'm in ivanhoe, between griffen and sheridan on volunteer road.
Yo i live off flamingo between griffin and 595 i always get gas at the station on the end of volunteer next to griffin

Nice kill:D Your times seem to be a tick or two better than a well driven Mach1....At times I still wish I had my LT1.....dreams of a 396 still ring through my head at night:bow:

I dont see how a mach 1 would walk all over a 96-98 cobra since they have the same hp ratings, the cobras are an SVT related car and i think they are built better than the mach 1's also. A 96 cobra running 14.5's??? Not very believable to me.

Originally posted by white97z/28
I dont see how a mach 1 would walk all over a 96-98 cobra since they have the same hp ratings, the cobras are an SVT related car and i think they are built better than the mach 1's also. A 96 cobra running 14.5's??? Not very believable to me.

You need to se them in person. they are seriously faster than even the 99/01 cobras. Lots of guys are dynoing 275-285rwhp stock on the MACH's. My buddy dynoed 270rwhp in his 99 cobra with the dealer fix and a CAI. My other buddy dynoed 287rwhp in his 97 Cobra and he has LT's, hi flow cat pipe, catback, timing adjust, & CAI. The mach's are easily faster.

I saw a Mach 1 at Sears Point (Infineon Raceway) and they were dialing in at 14.0

Sears produces bad numbers, but most people cannot come close to Car Rag numbers because:
1) They aren't pros
2) They don't power-shift
3) They don't know how to exit the box optimally.

That so, they (including me of course) are routinely in the 2.1++ 60' range and about .3 to .8 seconds slower through the traps than the car rags.

I'm happy with my 13.10, but I know the car could be a 12.NN second car if I powershifted or had some DRs.

From mm and ff:

"This is the quickest, naturally-aspirated, four-valve 4.6 Mustang we've ever tested... Quarter-mile in 13.13-seconds at 105.5 mph in bone-stock trim"

When driven right, a mach1 is a solid low 13 second car. Yes they will walk anyway other n/a 4.6 stang. They have the intake cams from the licoln navigator for more tq. and better gearing. You shouldnt feel bad if you lose to one in your fbody, the mach1s are no joke.

I actually got to ride around in one the other weekend. I was visiting friends down in Florida and one of my buddies who posts on here (used to have a H/C LT1) has a stock 03 Mach I. His ran 13.2 @ 106mph. There definately has some balls and would have ran circles around my 97 Cobra I had. The Mach does not have to deal with the IMRC setup the 96-98s had and has a better set of heads than the 99 & 01 Cobras.


Jess

ran into one myself this morning myself ;)

i was doing ~75 and he was closing in ~85 in the rearview, i shut off the a/c & downshifted 6th > 4th when he passed me by and pulled in a few carlengths before 100mph, shut down to catch my exit after that. it was too short to say much but a fun while it lasted :thumb:

Originally posted by white97z/28
I dont see how a mach 1 would walk all over a 96-98 cobra since they have the same hp ratings, the cobras are an SVT related car and i think they are built better than the mach 1's also. A 96 cobra running 14.5's??? Not very believable to me.

:)
i don't think a 96-98 cobra had the same hp/tq ratings of a 03/04 mach 1.

speed demon, too bad you live in florida :)
nice kill though :thumb:

I just found out it was an A4. I think I still could edge out a stock M5 mach 1, expecially since I just put in 3.73's after the race with that mach 1. What do stock A4 mach 1's run in the 1/4?

I think you could take a manual mach. You got a nice list of mods there. Autos usually run around 13.7s or so in the 1/4 compared to the 5 spds 13.2.

i for the most part i beat the 96-03 cobras every time if stock or close to it . i have only raced two mach ones one i beat the other beat me and i see the mach 1's putting down a lot better numbers then the cobras, new cobras i wont go there
i meant 02 cobras

Originally posted by white97z/28
I dont see how a mach 1 would walk all over a 96-98 cobra since they have the same hp ratings,

Yeah, and Chevrolet RATED the LS1 in the C5 and the Fbodies differently, but we all know they are the same motor and same real HP. Sometimes the factories play funky ratings games, including Ford.

Few small mods and you'll have a run for your money...good kill

The mach 1 are 305 hp, and the 96-98 cobras are 305 hp. Maybe im just looking at the wrong stats?

They might be rated the same, but they sure as hell dont dyno the same. On average a mach1 dynos around 320 crank hp. Those cobras run like high 13s to low 14s, mach1s are a solid low 13 second car.

Originally posted by white97z/28
The mach 1 are 305 hp, and the 96-98 cobras are 305 hp. Maybe im just looking at the wrong stats?

i think you are really looking at the wrong stats.
maybe the same hp at flywheel, but really different powerband, different rwhp, different rwtq.

take a look at this dynos
98 cobra vs 01 cobra vs 03 mach 1.
as you're about to see, pretty much different animals :)

98 cobra
mods
Mac cold air intake,
Steeda Tri-ax short shifter,
Bassani X pipes with high flow cats,
Magnaflow Wideopen Cat-backs

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/369000-369999/369096_104_full.jpg


Stock 03 Mach 1
Stock 01 Cobra
http://home.kc.rr.com/kchof/01%204v%20vs%2003%204v.jpg