Z284ever 09-15-2002, 09:14 PM Well...no more F-body.
But Chevy does have some performance models in the pipeline: SSR, Impala SS, Silverado SS.
Anyone excited about these two trucks and one car?
Anyone planning on buying one?
Doug Harden 09-15-2002, 09:59 PM Uuuuuuuhhhh.....NO.....yeah, that's my answer and I'm stickin' to it.
Other than a passing interest in the GTO (though it's possibly going to be overpriced) there's nothing available for us blue-collared performance buyers........:death:
Z284ever 09-15-2002, 10:35 PM To my eye the SSR has lost much of it's "coolness" in the transition from concept to reality......the Silverado SS just isn't my cup 'o tea...but maybe the Impala SS may give me some shred of excitement....we'll see.
luis nunez 09-15-2002, 10:42 PM Nope, not here
:o
Shame on you GM!
IMPALA64 09-15-2002, 11:00 PM Impala SS... yeah right. I dont care how quick it will be, its just more of the same watering down of the SS badge with boring fwd cars.
jrp4uc 09-15-2002, 11:49 PM The SSR is about as much of a performance model as the new Thunderbird, and I don't think GM is even concerned with making it "performance" oriented.
That Impala SS better have the 4.8 V8 and not the S/C 3.8, b/c I don't see sacrificing the name to have two GTPs in the lineup.
Silverado SS? :rolleyes:
94z28jbw 09-15-2002, 11:59 PM Well,
The F-Body is gone for now. but what I dream of is in about 5-8 years, maybe, just maybe, Chevy will let a Z28 off the producion line, [or maybe a SS] that is what it is supposed to be. Does everyone remeber what all the letters are supposed to mean? SS=Super Sport, RS=Rally Sport,
What I'd really love is that in the returning year, they put maybe a 383 into a SS, or Z28. That would sure as hell spike my interest.
Later,
Chuck! 09-16-2002, 01:39 AM Im very disappointed with the lack of performance in Chevys lineup, but GM is pushing forward with the CTSv, GTO, XLR, and C6. Unfortunally 1 will be at least 30k and 2 weigh it at 40k+ and then the XLR... I dont want to think about how much its gonna cost.
But hopefully some of their tech will combine and trickle down to a rwd 25-30k car soon enough. I guess you never know what GM has up their sleve (although if they do have an ace in the hole it'd be nice if they'd give some sort of nod).
Z284ever 09-16-2002, 01:47 AM I'll tell you my take on the SSR.
As a matter of saving face...GM is pretty much committed to this one. When it gets released it will get it's share of magazine covers...which would be good for GM...and I'm sure they'll sell everyone (probably with a dealer mark-up to boot), of the limited number manufactured.
But, if GM were to pull the plug on it, I wouldn't shed a tear.
Burmite 09-16-2002, 02:02 AM I say give it a few years, and maybe we'll have more Chevy performance. But in the next two years, affordable performance in GM is nonexistent.
DJCobol 09-16-2002, 08:11 AM Chevy performance is non-existant.
Impala SS? Laughable. Same as the Monte SS. SSR? Not really. Silverado SS? Once again, not really.
GM only has the Vette and the GTO coming out soon. Way to go GM! :rolleyes:
guionM 09-16-2002, 12:55 PM Originally posted by Burmite
I say give it a few years, and maybe we'll have more Chevy performance. But in the next two years, affordable performance in GM is nonexistent.
Agree. However, I'm in the minority who is willing to wait & see about the Impala SS. I have 0% intentions of buying one, but it might turn out popular with the "I can't drive anything that isn't FWD because it's too dangerous" crowd.
"Upcoming Chevy performance.....anyone excited?"
What performance?! ;) How they can even say performance in the same sentence as those cars I just don't know. :bs:
Z284ever 09-16-2002, 06:19 PM Originally posted by guionM
Agree. However, I'm in the minority who is willing to wait & see about the Impala SS. I have 0% intentions of buying one, but it might turn out popular with the "I can't drive anything that isn't FWD because it's too dangerous" crowd.
Yeah, I'm with you on this. Maybe it's not exactly what I'd like to see... but at least it's some sign of life.
We'll see.
JC Z28 09-17-2002, 01:30 AM Well as far as a targeted market is concerned the Silverado SS is gonna pick up where the Lightning left off. Not everyone wants a 400HP 2 seat truck; sales will show you ext. cabs are the best thing since sliced bread and chevy is giving the buyer a truck that looks good, has nice appealing 20'' wheels, has space for up to 5 people, and can handle a northeast winter. This is what sells and this is why trucks are so popular. In my opinion chevy has abandoned raw power for good, i think they're focus is torward a more refined product much like BMW. Impalla SS does not have to mean 500HP of tire smoking power, it can mean refinment like a 5series BMW ,a combination of all things that make a great car. The SSR is a direct attack at Chrysler's PT cruiser segment which by the way lets not forget the PT only has a 4banger, no performance competition for the SSR there. Before totally bashing GM try to figure out what they are doing, a better product image is more important then bieng known for making incredibly quick cars that rattle after 10,000miles. After the GM rep for quality goes up then they can worry about raw performance auto's. Just a 1:30am thought after reading about 10 negative comments about GM. All i can say is give it some time its not easy to restructure such a huge cookie cutter industry.
Z284ever 09-17-2002, 01:44 AM Originally posted by JC Z28
Well as far as a targeted market is concerned the Silverado SS is gonna pick up where the Lightning left off. Not everyone wants a 400HP 2 seat truck; sales will show you ext. cabs are the best thing since sliced bread and chevy is giving the buyer a truck that looks good, has nice appealing 20'' wheels, has space for up to 5 people, and can handle a northeast winter. This is what sells and this is why trucks are so popular. In my opinion chevy has abandoned raw power for good, i think they're focus is torward a more refined product much like BMW. Impalla SS does not have to mean 500HP of tire smoking power, it can mean refinment like a 5series BMW ,a combination of all things that make a great car. The SSR is a direct attack at Chrysler's PT cruiser segment which by the way lets not forget the PT only has a 4banger, no performance competition for the SSR there. Before totally bashing GM try to figure out what they are doing, a better product image is more important then bieng known for making incredibly quick cars that rattle after 10,000miles. After the GM rep for quality goes up then they can worry about raw performance auto's. Just a 1:30am thought after reading about 10 negative comments about GM. All i can say is give it some time its not easy to restructure such a huge cookie cutter industry.
Well, I pretty much agree with most of what you said.
All except the part about the Impala SS being as refined as a 5series BMW.:eek:
Power is directly associated with Chevrolet. MANY people spell performance CHEVROLET. They have to realize that and their history. Then make things right again.
SinisterSyclone don't forget about the CTSv, probably the best thing to come from GM since the C5. also the SSR will get a 6 speed and more HP in it's 2nd year. Only problem is "why should we have to wait for the second year of it?" the SSR should have the 345HP 6.0L Silverado engineand optional M6. I also bet the Silverado SS will get more HP in 2004.
Oh well, I can't wait to see 7.0L SSR or Silverado SS from Lingenfelter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jrp4uc 09-17-2002, 08:55 AM Originally posted by JC Z28
Well as far as a targeted market is concerned the Silverado SS is gonna pick up where the Lightning left off. Not everyone wants a 400HP 2 seat truck; sales will show you ext. cabs are the best thing since sliced bread and chevy is giving the buyer a truck that looks good, has nice appealing 20'' wheels, has space for up to 5 people, and can handle a northeast winter. This is what sells and this is why trucks are so popular. In my opinion chevy has abandoned raw power for good, i think they're focus is torward a more refined product much like BMW. Impalla SS does not have to mean 500HP of tire smoking power, it can mean refinment like a 5series BMW ,a combination of all things that make a great car. The SSR is a direct attack at Chrysler's PT cruiser segment which by the way lets not forget the PT only has a 4banger, no performance competition for the SSR there. Before totally bashing GM try to figure out what they are doing, a better product image is more important then bieng known for making incredibly quick cars that rattle after 10,000miles. After the GM rep for quality goes up then they can worry about raw performance auto's. Just a 1:30am thought after reading about 10 negative comments about GM. All i can say is give it some time its not easy to restructure such a huge cookie cutter industry.
I'll give you your truck angle, but the rest...
Impala and the 5 Series...both have four wheels. The "SS" trim level isn't going to refine it so it can take on BMW. They're having enough trouble with Toyota, Nissan, and Honda.
SSR is more an answer and alternative to the retro T-Bird than PT Cruiser. And you're comparing performance on the SSR which costs nearly $40k to the $20k PT Cruiser?? Unfortunately the Turbo PT Cruiser will be right in the neighborhood of the SSR.
ronssito 09-17-2002, 11:32 AM NO!
No 2003 Camaro is unforgivable.
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