Should the 5th Gen have a retro interior or a modern interior?

0toinsanein5.4sec
03-21-2004, 09:25 PM
With all the talk about the exterior styling around here, the interior styling seems like something that needs to be talked about. What do you think, retro or modern?

stars1010
03-21-2004, 09:28 PM
I'm starting to not mind a retro body but the interior has to be modern. I hate the '05 Stangs interior retroness.

Pandamonkey
03-21-2004, 09:31 PM
Definetly modern.

I find the 69's dash leaves a lot to be desired........
Wood grain with square gauge clusters.......:yuck:

IZ28
03-21-2004, 09:44 PM
Modern, the whole car modern. With some cues.

Big Als Z
03-21-2004, 09:51 PM
Modern, 100%. GM is getting way better at making quality interiors and they cant stop now by going back and doing a retro styled design to match the outside. Give it a very sporty set up with full guages. Good quality seats, plenty of room too. And I like the idea of like the Malibu and Equinox's sliding rear seat. That could help out fantasticly with rear seat room if there is a problem with that.

JoeliusZ28
03-21-2004, 10:11 PM
I wouldnt mind some retro cues, but definetly modern.

remember that digital dash (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/438000-438999/438980_82_full.jpg) idea I brought up a while ago?;)

jg95z28
03-21-2004, 10:12 PM
I'd like to see modern styling with a retro flare. Perhaps incorporating the 67 deluxe interior accent striping into modern highback leather seats. :D

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/240000-240999/240075_24_full.jpg

Big Als Z
03-21-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
I wouldnt mind some retro cues, but definetly modern.

remember that digital dash (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/438000-438999/438980_82_full.jpg) idea I brought up a while ago?;)

wow, that pic is pretty cool. What car is that from? Other then the "SHIFT!" icon, its pretty damn nice. Id like to see oil and voltmeter guages.

JoeliusZ28
03-21-2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Big Als Z
wow, that pic is pretty cool. What car is that from? Other then the "SHIFT!" icon, its pretty damn nice. Id like to see oil and voltmeter guages.
I dont remember what car I borrowed that from... ill try and find out. Oh, I did a lot of changes to it... I added the digital speed and tach readouts, the shift light (mspaint in 10 seconds, so poor quality) and a few other things.

And hey... voltmeter, oil, and all that other stuff is very easy to fit into a digital dash. Thats the glory of it.

JoeliusZ28
03-21-2004, 10:24 PM
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=212105&perpage=40

theres the thread, and the car was a mercedes

SNEAKY NEIL
03-21-2004, 10:32 PM
This one is a no brainer. Modern all the way. Retro interiors seem to come off much worse than retro exteriors. How is GM going to try to shake off the low-tech/old image that some have of the Camaro when the interior looks 30 years old.

JoeliusZ28
03-21-2004, 10:42 PM
Why I think my idea of a digital dash is a good idea:

-It would be probably be expensive and therefore must be optional
-It would make import loving magazines drool
-It would be very interactive: for example, YOU set the rpm for the shift light. Also maybe put a connector for a laptop, so you could record passes at the track, and what all your gauges were reading as you ran the down 1/4.... and then be able to watch what shift points / launch rpm got you the best results. Maybe even upload your own custom faceplates to it with your laptop... (ok thats dreaming) Hey, everything else these days interacts with computers, why not cars?
-You can get a ton of info in a small space
-You would have digital and analog readouts
-If it were an LCD it would glow, and be very easy to read/see
-with todays engineering, it would be very fast, reacting almost instantly to rpm changes.

Sorry I just like my idea a lot:D :p

Big Als Z
03-21-2004, 10:48 PM
an all digital dash is too... 80's?
I would like guages with some digital read outs or a digital drivers screen giving information like oil and battery voltage. But I would still like to see guages.

Red89GTA
03-21-2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
Why I think my idea of a digital dash is a good idea:

-It would be probably be expensive and therefore must be optional
-It would make import loving magazines drool
-It would be very interactive: for example, YOU set the rpm for the shift light. Also maybe put a connector for a laptop, so you could record passes at the track, and what all your gauges were reading as you ran the down 1/4.... and then be able to watch what shift points / launch rpm got you the best results. Maybe even upload your own custom faceplates to it with your laptop... (ok thats dreaming) Hey, everything else these days interacts with computers, why not cars?
-You can get a ton of info in a small space
-You would have digital and analog readouts
-If it were an LCD it would glow, and be very easy to read/see
-with todays engineering, it would be very fast, reacting almost instantly to rpm changes.

Sorry I just like my idea a lot:D :p

All of that would be really cool. BTW the custom faceplates could be a good idea to be a leader, instead of following everone else. Obviously no one HAS to:thumb:. The only down side I could see would be overcoming the bad image that digital dashs have received.

0toinsanein5.4sec
03-21-2004, 10:52 PM
It was an acura interior, look at my post right before yours (joelius) in that thread u linked to. the url goesto an Acura TSX guage cluster.

One prob with having a completely lcd guage cluster is sun glare. You get that and ur somewhat screwed. It there was a way to prevent that itd be cool. Also would have to figure out how to do the customizable guages.come with 5 and switch a button or something.

Personally i would go with mixed. normal tach, etc. digital readout for other stuff

JoeliusZ28
03-21-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
It was an acura interior, look at my post right before yours in that thread u linked to. the url goesto an Acura TSX guage cluster.
Thats what I clicked... a mercedes site came up for me :confused:

edit: oh duh, I clicked the second one. sorry.

Z28x
03-21-2004, 11:01 PM
100% modern and cutting edge.

I also want 4 cup holders like the LS1 Camaros have, HUD, & a nice fat steering wheel.

90rocz
03-21-2004, 11:13 PM
Modern conveniences with a touch of class(said quality) older Camaro interiors were'nt much to write home about...have things like cup-holders be hide-aways that are easy to reach and usefull. I think at least one a/c convertor outlet would be nice in this new century of lap-tops for tuning etc...:cool: layouts can give a sense of retro tho...:think:

87camracer
03-22-2004, 01:13 AM
i think that digital dash idea is very sweet. my dad had something similar in his 95 Lincoln Continental. instead of being digital it was a regular analog style gauge but it was a hologram that was cast down from the over hang on the top of the cluster. it worked great in sunlight too.:bow:

Darth Xed
03-22-2004, 08:45 AM
24 to 1 right now... don't think I have to tell anyone I am NOT in the moniority on this one. :lol:

PaperTarget
03-22-2004, 09:56 AM
Even I voted modern, but only because I was threatened by the GM folks :p I'd love to see digital dashes come back. At least as an option.

jg95z28
03-22-2004, 11:43 AM
P-L-E-A-S-E! No digital dashes. They're so 1980's! :p

JadedZ28
03-22-2004, 12:28 PM
id like to see a modern and very driver oriented dash, ala 93-98 supra, or 94-04 celicas. they just give the car a much more sportier feel....


supra
http://www.ladysstall.com/supra/interior.jpg

celica
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/02812061990004LRG.jpg

i love the wrap around feeling, i have it in my 92 celica, and even tho the car is slow as a snail it still gives the sporty impression to the driver and passenger....

JoeliusZ28
03-22-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by jg95z28
P-L-E-A-S-E! No digital dashes. They're so 1980's! :p
No one said we wanted 80s technology in our digital dashes:yuck:;):p

SNEAKY NEIL
03-22-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by jadedst
id like to see a modern and very driver oriented dash, ala 93-98 supra, or 94-04 celicas. they just give the car a much more sportier feel....


supra
http://www.ladysstall.com/supra/interior.jpg

celica
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/02812061990004LRG.jpg

i love the wrap around feeling, i have it in my 92 celica, and even tho the car is slow as a snail it still gives the sporty impression to the driver and passenger....

Or you could go with the 93-96' Camaro or the 91'-96' Corvette but yes, I like the driver orientated cockpit as well.

3rdGenNut
03-22-2004, 09:56 PM
Something in-between I don’t want to feel like I'm in a Japanese disco or in a cardboard box factory. A nice flowing cockpit design with large visible gauges would make me happy.

AronZ28
03-22-2004, 10:07 PM
They should have the gauges like they did in the 3rd Gen Camaros. Not the ugly yellow gauges, but the ones where the speedo, tach, volts, gas, and coolant were all their own circular gauges and had seperate pieces of glass covering them. It was not like most cars where all the gauges were covered by one piece of glass.

JEDCamino
03-23-2004, 03:56 PM
I think some of you are not fully grasping Joelius' idea here. :D Imagine graphics on a computer monitor that depict a car's gauge cluster, not big, square, segmented, green numbers with a black background. :p

BTW, I've been drawing pictures of this type of cluster since the mid '90s. :)

Magnum Force
03-23-2004, 04:48 PM
no contest...modern, and even better, it should be next-generation futuristic...

We they came out with a retro interior, that would give FoMoCo all the ammo to say that we're just copying their formula for the stang

dream '94 Z28
03-23-2004, 05:29 PM
I guess we found another hornets' nest to throw rocks at? :D

OK, I'm game....

I vote modern, but there's something about the twin pod design of the '69s that is very appealing, and the 2nd gen's.

My all time fav was the '93 -'96 dashes. Blister vents and all.

I think if exectued right, a digital dash could be a hit in the V6 and some V8 cars. Persoanlly I liked the '88-'93(?) Cutlass digital dash that mimicks dials. Above all else I would love to see electro-luminesence....with different color options (I'll take mine in VW blueish-purple with very red needles thank you).

jg95z28
03-23-2004, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by JEDCamino
I think some of you are not fully grasping Joelius' idea here. :D Imagine graphics on a computer monitor that depict a car's gauge cluster, not big, square, segmented, green numbers with a black background. :p

BTW, I've been drawing pictures of this type of cluster since the mid '90s. :) Oh great... what will it run on Windows XP? :irk:

Just where will they put the CTRL+ALT+DEL keys... on the steering wheel? We may need to reboot when it locks up at 75 mph on the freeway? :lol:

stars1010
03-23-2004, 05:36 PM
Ok who voted retro?!?!:rolleyes:

;) :p

jg95z28
03-23-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by stars1010
Ok who voted retro?!?!:rolleyes:

;) :p Wasn't me... honest. ;)

JoeliusZ28
03-23-2004, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by JEDCamino
I think some of you are not fully grasping Joelius' idea here. :D Imagine graphics on a computer monitor that depict a car's gauge cluster, not big, square, segmented, green numbers with a black background. :p

BTW, I've been drawing pictures of this type of cluster since the mid '90s. :)
thanks Jed:)

Originally posted by jg95z28
Oh great... what will it run on Windows XP? :irk:

Just where will they put the CTRL+ALT+DEL keys... on the steering wheel? We may need to reboot when it locks up at 75 mph on the freeway? :lol:
yep, just like the computer controlling your EFI system locks up all the time on the freeway :rolleyes:

0toinsanein5.4sec
03-23-2004, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
yep, just like the computer controlling your EFI system locks up all the time on the freeway :rolleyes:

I believe it was a joke :rolleyes: jg, i thought it was pretty funny.

JoeliusZ28
03-23-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
I believe it was a joke :rolleyes: jg, i thought it was pretty funny. I thought it was funny too, but it seemed like a serious joke to me.

jg95z28
03-24-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
I believe it was a joke :rolleyes: jg, i thought it was pretty funny. Of course it was a joke. :lol:

Everyone knows that the new Camaro is going to run on Linux! ;)

JoeliusZ28
03-24-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by jg95z28
Everyone knows that the new Camaro is going to run on Linux! ;)
There ya go... Free Software! All the cheaper!;)

dream '94 Z28
03-24-2004, 11:35 AM
A significant spec for the new speedo has to be that the car does not out perform it like the digital speedo in the early C4 Vettes:D