Skyline.. sweet car, when will we see it?

I dont know much about this car, but when I used to own this car, I really enjoyed driving it until I got the new car fever and had to trade it in for something faster... of course Im talking about when I had it in Grand Turismo 3 for the PS2, ;) but hey, even then it was fun to drive and handled great... anyways... I seem to be seeing it more and more in magazines and such. Does this mean that it may be on its way to the U.S. ? Because I would like to see these up close and maybe get one of my own.

I'd rather see a 5th gen CAMARO sold in the US.

I think the GT-R is still a few years away--it'll have to wait for the next iteration. I don't know if it'll be based off the Skyline (G35) or be more similar to the concept displayed on the auto show circuit last year. If/when it does arrive, expect a hefty price tag in or above Corvette range: 50-75k.

Here's my prediction on the Skyline:
Figure that the new Skyline will be built on the G35/350Z platform. The new Skyline will probably run a boosted 3.5 v6 derived from the same engine inside of both cars right now. Now I'm guessing intoduce a high end Corvette Coupe performer, Nissan will boost the 3.5 v6 in the 350Z in about two model years after the hype starts going away. Since the Skyline will share this engine, it would make sense that to save on developmental costs, they would build and import the Skyline a year after the Turbo Z as a supercar. Leave the 350Z to take on the Corvette or GTO. So I'm going to guess...MY 2006 or 2007 on the Skyline.

I may be mistaken, but I thought Iread that the new Skyline might be coming over with a V8 but still retain the awd system in the current models. Either way, the prospect of a Skyline being sold here is good news.

Skyline > anything that GM makes or has made.

I would kill for a R-34 GTR in Deep Marina Blue.

:bow: Skyline!

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
Skyline > anything that GM makes or has made.

I would kill for a R-34 GTR in Deep Marina Blue.

:bow: Skyline!

Skyline > Z06?

I don't know. The skyline is good, but not that good. Atleast performance wise.

Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Skyline > Z06?

I don't know. The skyline is good, but not that good. Atleast performance wise.

Yes, Skyline > Z06. The Z06 is a sweet car, but it cant touch AWD, AWS computer tuned suspension along with a twin turbo V6. And the looks! MEAN!!

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
Yes, Skyline > Z06. The Z06 is a sweet car, but it cant touch AWD, AWS computer tuned suspension along with a twin turbo V6. And the looks! MEAN!!

Sure, it can't touch the skyline in technological advancement but look at the performance numbers. They are both performance cars right? having said that, i have no doubts that a z06 will come out on top in about every performance related category. The skyline may well be the better "overall" car but it's got nothing on the z06 in terms of performance.

Styling and looks are both subjective so i'll give you that. IMO, the skyline's do look mean, but they also look bland and sedan-ish. It's also a tad bit on the boxy side. It still looks nice but nothing like the lines of the japanese NSX or the american Viper or the Italian exotics.

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
Yes, Skyline > Z06. The Z06 is a sweet car, but it cant touch AWD, AWS computer tuned suspension along with a twin turbo V6. And the looks! MEAN!!

Reality check time!

When I was last in Japan in 1997, the Skyline cost the equivalent of $70,000 in twin turbo AWD form :eek" . Last I checked, a Z06 was just a hair over $50,000.

If you have 70Gs burning a hole in your pocket, then great, but I suspect 99% of us don't.

Originally posted by guionM
Reality check time!

When I was last in Japan in 1997, the Skyline cost the equivalent of $70,000 in twin turbo AWD form :eek:" . Last I checked, a Z06 was just a hair over $50,000.

If you have 70Gs burning a hole in your pocket, then great, but I suspect 99% of us don't.

Well, I dont have $50,000 either. My point was that overall, the Skyline was the more advanced car. Straight line performance will go to the Vette 9 times out of 10, but get on an AutoX track or do some everyday country road driving through hills and twisties and I bet the Skyline wins.

I love the Z06, but I love me some skylines a whole bunch more!

Way sweet car.

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
Well, I dont have $50,000 either. My point was that overall, the Skyline was the more advanced car. Straight line performance will go to the Vette 9 times out of 10, but get on an AutoX track or do some everyday country road driving through hills and twisties and I bet the Skyline wins.

I love the Z06, but I love me some skylines a whole bunch more!


I like Skylines too, they are Japan's equivalent to our Mustang (a step or 2 from being a national icon).

But give me a Z06 & $20,000 and I suspect I could come up with something competitive. :)

After hearing all this skyline hype, I read up a bit on them.

205.8 kw / 276.0 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Curb Weight 1666 kg / 3673 lbs

1/4 in the high 13's

So straight line performance they're nothing special, and this is what you're spending $70,000+ on?

Why does it weigh 3600lbs? Before you say AWD, why is the WRX still 2900lbs?

This car is like a slight step up from a WRX, and will probably be pretty equal to the Lancer Evo VII/WRX STi.

The Skyline has attained Myth status, because no one ever sees a real one and they hear how badass they are all of the time.

Me? I'd buy about 100 different cars before the skyline...

Hell, if I wanted handling, I could buy an M3 and pocket myself 30K. I'd also have a faster straight line car, and a BMW.

Oh wait, we're paying for the prestige of having a Nissan?

No thanks. I'll pass on the Skyline. I hope it comes out in the US just so people stop wishing it will come out in the US, and get a bit of a reality check about the damned thing.

Two main reasons for the weight difference between Skyline & WRX.

1st, Skyline is RWD based while WRX isn't. Anytime you take a RWD-based car and have an AWD version, it will be heavy.
2nd, of course, is they are different sizes. Skyline is about the size of the upcomming GTO (Skyline is also sold in Austraila) but lower. It also has twin turbos and all that extra piping, and unless I'm wrong, twin intercoolers as well.

You bring up the exact reason why Skylines haven't been imported & sold in the US by Nissan to date. A combination of being extremely expensive, lousy fuel economy, performance that isn't much above lower cost performance cars available here, and just simply poor sales.

Before some Skyline fans call foul, keep in mind that the HiTech Mitsubishi AWD 3000GT failed here, and it was one third the price of a Skyline. Also, don't forget the 2wd Hitech & expensive Supra, the old RX7 and the old Z.

Though some of these cars are popular with the import crowd today,
no one, especially the import crowd of that time (and today), had nearly the money to buy one new. However, a version the restyled one is slated to be imported here, though it will likely have an V8 from the Infinity.

Well, if you had the money you could probly be put on the waiting list for one, only 50 are imported a year and converted to fit US standards... I can't remember the company's name though... something Rex...?

wtf are yall talking about? the skyline is one of the biggest rip offs out there, and it cant touch a z06 in any category including the "twisties"
i dont see how this car gets its fame when you get so little performance for so much money.

Originally posted by NAKSTOCKZ28
wtf are yall talking about? the skyline is one of the biggest rip offs out there, and it cant touch a z06 in any category including the "twisties"
i dont see how this car gets its fame when you get so little performance for so much money.

agreed.
the vette would slaughter that import on the strip and on the track
whats up with all these import lovers on CAMAROZ28.COM ?!?!

NAKSTOCKZ28 & OnyxXtreme,

There is a law in Japan that cars can't have more than 280hp. So what's the hype about? It's called turnning up the boost. After you do that you won't have to ask why do people like this car. When your stock block can do 650hp no problem, you can talk trash when the hairdryers are blowing hard.

Originally posted by LT1runner
NAKSTOCKZ28 & OnyxXtreme,

There is a law in Japan that cars can't have more than 280hp. So what's the hype about? It's called turnning up the boost. After you do that you won't have to ask why do people like this car. When your stock block can do 650hp no problem, you can talk trash when the hairdryers are blowing hard.

Actually, it's more of an unofficial, unwritten agreement between the goverment & automakers there, that's been quietly broken for a few years.

Although they don't rate them over 280, the twin blown Skyline has been pumping over 300 HP for the past few years....and they aren't the only cheaters either.

Originally posted by NAKSTOCKZ28
wtf are yall talking about? the skyline is one of the biggest rip offs out there, and it cant touch a z06 in any category including the "twisties"
i dont see how this car gets its fame when you get so little performance for so much money.

I ran 12.9 bone stock. GTRs have made over 750whp on stock driveline and motor. MANY R32 STREET GTR's run high 8's in street legal form and street tires. Perhaps thats were some of the "hype" came from.:rolleyes:
I personally have NO problems handing Z06's their ass'. In ANY form of racing. Ask a few local MD Z06 owners.




Originally posted by OnyxXtreme
agreed.
the vette would slaughter that import on the strip and on the track
whats up with all these import lovers on CAMAROZ28.COM ?!?!

They are what's known as REAL Car Enthusiasts. You know....those people who have respect for all things fast and this is a car enthusiast board.

99% of your so-called "REAL car enthusiasts", race honduhs
nuff said.

Now you know there not "real" car guys. Unless you consider a "real car guy" is a dude that would rather spend 3G's on a body kit and a huge wing instead of a turbo kit and exhaust on his honda. Hating imports will get you no where. I've seen vids a civic beating a viper. Plain jane white looking, but with the motor work over and boost applied. Anything can happen. You don't need a V8 to big man on campus. As the GN guys.

Originally posted by bauerstealth
They are what's known as REAL Car Enthusiasts. You know....those people who have respect for all things fast and this is a car enthusiast board.

THANK YOU RICH!

Some people out there like all performance cars, American and Imports.

Originally posted by OnyxXtreme
99% of your so-called "REAL car enthusiasts", race honduhs
nuff said.

WTF are you talking about? There is a difference between a riced up civic and a real performing import. :rolleyes:

skylines are cool.the reason why every one seems to like them is becuase they have engines that can realy haul ass with the proper amount of $$$$$$.


But wouldnt it be cool if there was a video of an 4th Gen Camaro/Trans Am ( V 8 rumbling from a big cam, loud as hell ) lining up next to a an R34 Skyline with both a bout equal HP and seeing the F-body whooping the **** out of it.hey im a little biased but i think that would be badass.it would be like the Beast from the East vs the Best from the West.

i would pay to see that

Fbodys being cool(I really like them) may not be enough if both cars had the same power. AWD would leave it sitting there. Unless the fbody had a 12bolt, slicks, and a street twin(or built tranny) It's sad to say if both cars had 400 hp at least from a dead stop the Skyline would take off hard. Then from a roll when the N\A runs out of air(and they always do), boost stays in.

Originally posted by steven j
But wouldnt it be cool if there was a video of an 4th Gen Camaro/Trans Am ( V 8 rumbling from a big cam, loud as hell ) lining up next to a an R34 Skyline with both a bout equal HP and seeing the F-body whooping the **** out of it.hey im a little biased but i think that would be badass.it would be like the Beast from the East vs the Best from the West.

i would pay to see that

I would love to see the exact opposite. Turbos = teh rulaaaarrrrrrrr!

Something about that sound. Spooling up, holding boost, BOVs, etc. . . . *sigh*

I have an old video of an '87GNX racing an '87 Vette. The video is a few minutes long and shows a bunch of different scenes. Various angles of the burnout and the race itself. When you see the GNX stage and then start to build boost, the whole car raises up about 1.5" to 2"! :eek: And then, the angle with the camera at the end of the track next to the GNX lane (on the passenger side where the turbo is), you hear this whistle coming at you from about the 1/8 mile mark. As the car flys past, all you hear is a loud whistling noise and WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH! And the Vette is nowhere in sight! Thats one of my fav car vids of all time.

If I could find the link again, I would post the clip of a R33 GTR on a dyno putting out almost 1200 HP. That thing sounds absolutely SICK! The driver shifts through the gears at a normal pace, gets to fourth, holds it at probably aound 2K rpms for a few seconds, and then guns it. The sound is unbelievable!

Don't tease us. post the link;)

Skyline dyno vid (http://www.exvitermini.com/movies/852r33.mpg)

GNX/Vette Race Vid (http://www.gnttype.org/media/gnxvette.MPG)

Enjoy!

Great GNX vid! :)

That GNX sounded GOOOD. I hope the turbo I'm about to drop in the DSM is that loud. That Skyline is mean too. Too nasty.

Damn that skyline sounds freaking mean! I love it! :D

i think if they raced they could race slicks.that way the camaro could hook better.


they would both have to be around 1000 hp and i dont mean that the camaro would blow it away it would inch it out in the end.i know some of you guys have to feel the same way.
any of you guys seen that video on kazza with the 69 camaro vs the tt supra.that was aweosome




or what about a GNX vs a Skyline what one would you want to win then.

The GNX sounded awesome!!!!!!

But that Skyline........WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOO OOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

As I said 10 posts ago, the Skyline has just attained myth/legend status because all anyone knows of it is what they see on the internet.

Besides which, for $90,000 you could get a much better car. Hell, even the overpriced NSX you could get for $90,000, and it runs 12s stock and rapes a road course.

Personally, if I had $90,000 to spend on a car, I'd get Lingenfelter to build me a 427TT Corvette. Only a $50,000 upgrade on the regular Corvette, I could even save money by having them build up a used C5.

0-60 in 1.9 and it runs 9's on slicks, but I'm sure the Skyline can do that with just a chip right?

Skyline = Overhyped, overpriced, overrated.

But hey, the import fans have to have a dream car, right? :)

Me, I'd rather have a TT Supra, and spend the extra tens of thousands of dollars on building it up.

Originally posted by MunchE
Skyline = Overhyped, overpriced, overrated.

But hey, the import fans have to have a dream car, right? :)

Me, I'd rather have a TT Supra, and spend the extra tens of thousands of dollars on building it up.

After seeing what the Skyline can do in videos I've downloaded, I've grown to truly appreciate the car for what it is and what it can do. Maybe thats wrong of me since I've never driven/owned one, but thats no worse than you saying they are "Overhyped, overpriced and overrated". I say that assuming you've never owned or driven one either.

And through all of this, you tout the Vette as this supercar, specifically the Lingenfelter. Go back a few sentences in this post. Have you ever owned or driven one of these? I highly doubt it. So where do you get all your information and all that from? Magazines? People that own them/drive them/work on them? <gasp>THE INTERNET</gasp>? I'd be willing to say that thats where you get most if not all your information, or in your terms, "hype", for this car. So how are you any better than me on this topic? We both have cars that we like (I happen to like the Vette as well, but there is something about the Skyline), and we both get information on the respective cars from the same kinds of sources.

By your logic, I could venture out and say that the Lingenfelter Vette is "Overpriced, Overhyped and Overrated" as well, but I wont. I know that the Vette is a truly kick ass car as well, however I just have a thing for Skylines. Apparently you cant accept that.

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
After seeing what the Skyline can do in videos I've downloaded, I've grown to truly appreciate the car for what it is and what it can do. Maybe thats wrong of me since I've never driven/owned one, but thats no worse than you saying they are "Overhyped, overpriced and overrated". I say that assuming you've never owned or driven one either.

And through all of this, you tout the Vette as this supercar, specifically the Lingenfelter. Go back a few sentences in this post. Have you ever owned or driven one of these? I highly doubt it. So where do you get all your information and all that from? Magazines? People that own them/drive them/work on them? <gasp>THE INTERNET</gasp>? I'd be willing to say that thats where you get most if not all your information, or in your terms, "hype", for this car. So how are you any better than me on this topic? We both have cars that we like (I happen to like the Vette as well, but there is something about the Skyline), and we both get information on the respective cars from the same kinds of sources.

By your logic, I could venture out and say that the Lingenfelter Vette is "Overpriced, Overhyped and Overrated" as well, but I wont. I know that the Vette is a truly kick ass car as well, however I just have a thing for Skylines. Apparently you cant accept that.

Good points.

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone
By your logic, I could venture out and say that the Lingenfelter Vette is "Overpriced, Overhyped and Overrated" as well, but I wont. I know that the Vette is a truly kick ass car as well, however I just have a thing for Skylines. Apparently you cant accept that.

I can understand people liking the car, just the fanboys of it get a bit tiresome. I can accept that anyone likes any car, the Skyline just appears to have some godlike status among people just because it's out of reach.

Since no one has most of the cars mentioned, comparing stats is great...and the Skyline's #'s are unimpressive. Everyone relies on "But it has great mod potential, I saw a video one time of this one guy who had one that had a whole lot of horsepower!"

For the same price as the Skyline, you could get dozens of cars that outperform it. Since it's all speculation on out of reach cars, I'll compare magazine times and base prices. I'd say seeing a national magazine running a 9.2 in a Lingenfelter is a bit more credible than a video of one skyline with mods unknown making horsepower on a dyno.

Although in some real world Skyline stuff, I heard there was one in the Gumball Rally with like 700hp. Everyone thought it was cool until it started breaking down. :) Actually, calling the Gumball Rally real world is crazy, that thing is like a damned movie. Yes, I recognize the irony of that statement.

Almost every good thing I hear about the Skyline can be applied to the Supra, save for the AWD which gives better launches and the extra weight. I just fail to see what's so unique about this car, or what makes it any better than, say, a Supra.

Mod potential nothing, for as much as that car costs, you shouldn't have to do a damned thing to it. No one would respect Porsche if they sold a 911 Turbo that only ran a 14, but then if you sank another few thousand dollars into your $100,000 car it'd be really great! Hell, if the Z28 was $90,000, people would laugh the thing out of the lots. But a Japanese company does it and then you have a legion of people talking about it like it's the best car you could ever find, ever, period. And I'm skeptical that the handling is better than say, a 911, Boxster, M3, or an NSX, which would all be in the price range or below.

Have I driven one? Nope. Will I? Probably not.

I don't need to drive it to be tired of hearing about how ****ing awesome it is. I took one look at the car running high 13's and costing nearly $100,000 and scratched my head at how people think this car really needs to come out in the US. Why? So you can pay a lot to get a car that has POTENTIAL? That's a lot of money for potential.

Why don't we see this kind of fanboyism for the NSX? Because it doesn't have the "OMFG J-SPEC IS THE BEST CAN'T GET THIS IN THE US, EVERYTHING IS BETTER IN JAPAN" attached to it. If the Skyline was out in the US, it wouldn't have half the reputation it does now.

It's interesting having read these last few messages on this thread. In Australia the Skyline name is one of the most respected auto brand names. Everyone knows about Skyline. Most of the credit goes to the fact that Skyline won the Bathurst 1000 (1000km race) at Mt. Panorama in 1990 and 1991 against Holden and Ford V8 supercars.

They were so dominant that they changed the rules and excluded them from racing. Unfortunately Nissan stopped the official importation of the cars in the early 90s, but it's straightforward to get a used version from Japan. Very easy in fact.

I like Skylines, but I like Corvettes and Camaros too. Out of the box the Chev cars are faster, but a Skyline's ability in a straight line is really only limited by your wallet. Sub 10 second cars are not unheard of, and they're still daily drivers!

But Skyline GT-R really shines when the road gets bendy. For sometime an R-34 Skyline held the production car record around the old Nurburgring in Germany, beating some better known names.

Skylines are incredibly good, sophisticated cars designed and built to be track weapons driven on public roads.

Originally posted by SinisterSyclone

By your logic, I could venture out and say that the Lingenfelter Vette is "Overpriced, Overhyped and Overrated" as well, but I wont. I know that the Vette is a truly kick ass car as well, however I just have a thing for Skylines. Apparently you cant accept that.

I might agree with the over priced, but that is just because I can't aford it. who wouldn't like to get a better than Viper powered car for $30K, I wouldn't say the Vette is over hyped or overrated, what car can you get with 725HP for $90K with a factory warrenty? Looks to me like it is the best supercar deal going.

You know. There are more GTR's out there then just a 2002 R34 GTR Vspec-II That costs $90,000. You can get early R32 GTR's WHICH ARE FASTER THEN R34's(12.9 BONE STOCK), for less then $28,000 here in the USA.
Damn I keep seeing "Its not worth 90G" and "I would take this for 90G over a GTR." More then 1 car kids.

And for less then 28G, a GTR is right on par with a Supra TT in price.
For the guy who said a GTR is heavier then a Supra cause of 4WD or some BS....Uh, Supra's tip the scales around 3400. My R32 GTR came in @ 3260.

Education is the key to success!:rolleyes:

I can understand you not liking Skylines, but for the reasons you don't like it are alittle lame to me, but I'm willing to admit I may not know what I'm talking about.

Some people feel the same about vettes. The get a base Z28, and drop some cash into it and they beat vettes all day. Then they talk about vettes not being worth the cash. If money is unlimited, I'd get a skyline everytime. Everyone rebuilds motors, but to not everyone can yeild the power and drive it everyday like you could a skyline. The Supra is one of them, but even the supra can't mess with the Skyline AWD in a street setting. Who wants a car you have to start a run at a 50 mph roll. Hard to get that power to the gound from a stand still.

As for the NSX. It's a lame duck. Honda's atempt to make a N\A car that's not V8 sucks. It needs a turbo. Until then it's just another honda to me.

It's not as easy to get HP out of a skyline as it is just about any other car. You pay for the setup. If the Skyline was made\created in england it would have more HP stock. I'm sure you know domestic Japanese cars won't sell out of the box more than say 280 advertised HP. Since you know this, why do you always quote stock 1/4 mile times.

Can you imagine if the vette was made\created in Japan. The Z06 would have 280hp. Oh and so will the regular C5. Oh and don't forget our favorite, the Z28. Yep again 280hp. Would you buy it then? Is it less of a car. Wow. The Mclaren car would have 280hp too. And that's a 1,000,000. All you'd have to do is clear up all the ways the company slowed it down. Then the McClaren or Porshe 911 might then be worth the cash.

If you ask me the Z06 may not be worth the cash when Holden cost less. I might be wrong there though. But you get the point.

Did I mention that it the Skyline comes with an AFC and laptop port. So as soon as you roll the car out of the store you could start getting more HP ASAP. Well over 300hp stock. That's the last 2 model years. possibly more.

Originally posted by LT1runner
Did I mention that it the Skyline comes with an AFC and laptop port. So as soon as you roll the car out of the store you could start getting more HP ASAP. Well over 300hp stock. That's the last 2 model years. possibly more.

what is a laptop port????????? do you mean USB, Serial, LPT, PS/2, PCMCIA, Firewire or something else? Does the Nissan give out a CD-ROM with software to up the boost when you buy the car???

Rather than having to go out and buy software and the cable to hook a computer up to the car, that stuff comes with the car. The cable is a serial end (at least it was on the R34) and is integrated right into the car.

Ok, so I finally broke down. After I beefed up my supra I got a skyline:

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/images/bitchar5.jpg

http://www.animenmore.com/g03.shtml


Update: After driving the Skyline, it's the fastest car of the bunch. So maybe you guys were onto something.