2006 SVT Cobra rumors?

take with a grain of salt

for your discussion (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86375&perpage=25&pagenumber=1)

All other info aside, 500hp is what I was expecting for the Cobra.

Found this part interesting. It's from the Whipple site. Could very well be a typo, but i hope it is a slip-up on their part:D. Guess we'll find out. I hope they ditch the roots.

That’s right, get the same supercharger that’s utilized on the new Ford GT and the 06’ Lighting and Mustang Cobra.

I think we'll see a prototype at the 2005 autoshow.

About time they think about ditching the 4.sick for the 5.4.

Unless it's aluminum, that 5.4 is a big, heavy motor.
Would anybody really want a 500hp Cobra if it weight 3,900lbs?
Not me.
S.

It is aluminum...

Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Found this part interesting. It's from the Whipple site. Could very well be a typo, but i hope it is a slip-up on their part:D. Guess we'll find out. I hope they ditch the roots.



I think we'll see a prototype at the 2005 autoshow.


It's not a roots. It's a twin screw Lysholm and they make power to the moon. Trust me you want one on the Lightning and Cobra. And it'll be there.

600rwhp on 93 octane in the 4.6 '03 Cobra is simple with the Kenne Bell or Whipple charger.

The 2006 Cobra will surprise the pants off most all of you.

I can almost guarantee you there won't be a "Chevy coupe" that will touch it (going by GM's history).

It's power is that outregous.

Trust me. ;)

Originally posted by guionM

It's power is that outregous.

Trust me. ;)

More outrageous than the GT???

Regardless, it sounds sweet!

Rumor has it that a '06 Cobra mule has been spotted testing near Ford's Naples Florida facility.

Coincidentally....I'll be down there in a couple of weeks.

Anyone know where in Naples, the Ford facility is?

I remember about a year or so ago, a guy out of the Pacific Northwest that built a classic Vette streetcar with a twin screw Whipple on a BBC that put out over 1000hp. So I'm not surprised that they're able to get 500 horses out of a Whipple on the 5.4 Ford.

When will the hp wars end? What's next? 600? 700? 800 horses in a street car? :eek:

So, those rumors about 5.4L motors in Mustangs at a testing facility in Detroit may have been true all along...not that I had any doubts. If the 5.4L fits in the Cobra, who's to say a new Mach1 may not get one too?

Originally posted by Tackleberry
More outrageous than the GT???

Regardless, it sounds sweet!

No. The GT's 5.4 is set at about 75% potential. The Lightning and Cobra will be detuned from that. Although the Lightning is SO HEAVY it could possibly get an unaltered GT motor, ala the Ram SRT-10, an still pose no threat to Ford's $150K supercar. It's really a marketing game here.

Then there's the 3V VCT head thrown into the mix which could be a way to offer a different blown 5.4. I actually believe this will most likely show up in the Cobra and Lightning.

Originally posted by PaperTarget
So, those rumors about 5.4L motors in Mustangs at a testing facility in Detroit may have been true all along...not that I had any doubts. If the 5.4L fits in the Cobra, who's to say a new Mach1 may not get one too?

Glad you mentioned that. Speculation on the Ford sites is the Mach1/Boss goes 5.4 3V VCT solid axle ~380hp

Originally posted by hp_nut
It's not a roots. It's a twin screw Lysholm and they make power to the moon. Trust me you want one on the Lightning and Cobra. And it'll be there.

I know that:D. That's why i said they should drop the current roots (on 03/04 Cobra), and go with the twin screw on the 06's.

Originally posted by jg95z28
I remember about a year or so ago, a guy out of the Pacific Northwest that built a classic Vette streetcar with a twin screw Whipple on a BBC that put out over 1000hp. So I'm not surprised that they're able to get 500 horses out of a Whipple on the 5.4 Ford.

When will the hp wars end? What's next? 600? 700? 800 horses in a street car? :eek:

You know, I'm really enjoying the HP boosts comming in the new cars. But you got to wonder when insurance companies and lawmakers will put their foot down and say enough. Honestly, how many 400+ Hp cars do we want on the roads with all the inexperienced boobs out there?

Originally posted by cmsmith
You know, I'm really enjoying the HP boosts comming in the new cars. But you got to wonder when insurance companies and lawmakers will put their foot down and say enough. Honestly, how many 400+ Hp cars do we want on the roads with all the inexperienced boobs out there?

It's called natural selection, we get rid of all the idiots:D

That simply can't be true... that's just crazy talk, we live in a civilized, calm society, and 500RWHP just doesn't fit into that mold...

/sigh...

I'm getting so close to throwing away my plans to buy a 2002
Camaro SS...

So do you think the 2006 Cobra will cost around 38,000 bucks? That's my best guess... they might charge more though since it will have more HP than a Corvette.

And Chevy loyalists, please no speaches on how "they can't be compared the corvette outhandles the Mustang."

Duh.

Dreamaster

also in the thread, the person who said he knows about the prototype gave an estimated weight of 4100 lbs...ouch!! I wouldn't buy a sled that heavy even if it had 800 HP...Well, maybe i would

That would be a 400lb increase over the current Cobra. I don't see that happening. There was a rumor going around at one time that the 2005 GT Mustang would weight 3800lbs. It's barely over 3400lbs. I'd wouldn't take the 4100lbs estimate too seriously.

The 5.4 and blower package is far from light so a weight increase should be a given....but 4100lbs? i hope not. I'd say 3,800lbs max which is still too much, but somewhat acceptable if matched with 500horses and 500lb-ft of tq.

The 5.4L that it should be getting (from the GT) is aluminum, not iron like the current 4.6L in the Cobra and one of the reasons it's so heavy. The 5.4L aluminum block is actually lighter than the 4.6L iron block. I'm not sure about the weight difference between the other engine parts, but I seriously doubt it's more than 100 lbs.

Originally posted by PaperTarget
The 5.4L that it should be getting (from the GT) is aluminum, not iron like the current 4.6L in the Cobra and one of the reasons it's so heavy. The 5.4L aluminum block is actually lighter than the 4.6L iron block. I'm not sure about the weight difference between the other engine parts, but I seriously doubt it's more than 100 lbs.


Yup. That 4100lb figure is gross disinformation. Just like the 3800lb weight for the GT which turned out 3400. Call the new Cobra at 3700lbs.

Hmmm.

475rwhp/.85 = 558/3700 ^-1 = 6.62lbs/hp INSANE

Originally posted by PaperTarget
The 5.4L aluminum block is actually lighter than the 4.6L iron block. I'm not sure about the weight difference between the other engine parts, but I seriously doubt it's more than 100 lbs.
to my knowledge, the new 4.6 is also all aluminum, so might weight gain still be a factor, just less of one?

I can see a mustang in my future if this keeps up.

Originally posted by Stealth 86 LSC
to my knowledge, the new 4.6 is also all aluminum, so might weight gain still be a factor, just less of one?

The 2003/2004 Cobra has an iron 4.6L. You are correct, the 2005 Mustang GT has an aluminum block.