FacelessZ = Bad Seller

brokenz
03-02-2004, 10:06 PM
I've been waiting months now for my rockers. You only had to wait a few days for your money. I don't know if you deleted the original thread but I have a copy and a copy of your admission of guilt still exists at another site. I will host the original thread if necessary. When if ever do you plan on sending my part?

ibanez6rg
03-02-2004, 10:29 PM
:no::rolleyes:

Bersaglieri
03-02-2004, 10:32 PM
Sorry to hear that, good luck.

-Dustin-

brokenz
03-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Bersaglieri
Sorry to hear that, good luck.

-Dustin-
Thanks.

This following is from my paypal account:
1. The transfer from my checking into my paypal.
Name:
Bank Account
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Total Amount:
$85.00 USD
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Date:
Jan. 23, 2004
Time:
14:39:07 PST
Status:
Completed
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Funding Type:
eCheck
Funding Source:
Centura Bank Checking (Confirmed) XXXXXX3055

2. The transfer to his account.
Name:
Doug Moore (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
DougE31381@hotmail.com
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Total Amount:
-$85.00 USD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:
Jan. 23, 2004
Time:
14:39:07 PST
Status:
Cleared
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Subject:
GMPP 1.52 SA rockers...less than 300 miles!
Note:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/show...551#post1744551

Shipping Address:
James ****
****
Dunn, NC 28334
United States
Unconfirmed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Funding Type:
eCheck
Funding Source:
$85.00 USD - Centura Bank Checking (Confirmed) XXXXXX3055

3. The update verifying the transfer.
Name:
Doug Moore (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
DougE31381@hotmail.com
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Total Amount:
-$85.00 USD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:
Jan. 23, 2004
Time:
14:39:07 PST
Status:
Cleared
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject:
GMPP 1.52 SA rockers...less than 300 miles!
Note:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/show...551#post1744551
Shipping Address:

James ****
****
Dunn, NC 28334
United States
Unconfirmed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Funding Type:
eCheck
Funding Source:
$85.00 USD - Centura Bank Checking (Confirmed) XXXXXX3055

To date I still haven't recieved this item.

97Z-M6
03-02-2004, 11:19 PM
ive seen the rr they are boxed up ready to go out. ill call him and tell him aout this thread for you. so yall can figure it all out.


hes not going to stiff you

FacelessZ
03-02-2004, 11:19 PM
Wow someone got their panties in a knot. We spoke about this a few days ago brokenz and I have your rockers all boxed up and ready to ship out.

I e-mailed you quite awhile ago and I NEVER heard back from you. You even said yourself that you even forgot that you bought these rockers from me. Don't even try to say that I've been holding on to your money without ever sending these out. I reaplied to you the other day apologizing and told you it was a simple mix up. If you would have just responded to my e-mail i sent "months" ago this would have never happened.

FacelessZ
03-02-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by brokenz
I've been waiting months now for my rockers. You only had to wait a few days for your money. I don't know if you deleted the original thread but I have a copy and a copy of your admission of guilt still exists at another site. I will host the original thread if necessary. When if ever do you plan on sending my part?

You need to relax. It wasn't 20 minutes ago that I sent you yet ANOTHER e-mail telling you that your rockers were boxed up and about to be sent out...

:rolleyes:

I have enough of a reputation on this site and I have plenty of people who will back me up. As I've stated to you before, I'm not out to stiff someone for a measly $85...

FacelessZ
03-02-2004, 11:35 PM
How about next time you actually try contacting me or at LEAST respond to one of my many e-mails before you come on here posting a 'bad seller' thread...

Spinner
03-02-2004, 11:37 PM
I dont doubt your honest, but why's it take more then a month to ship something so simple?

FacelessZ
03-02-2004, 11:39 PM
cause i seriously didn't think he sent his shipping address in the paypal receipt so there was nowhere for me to send them...plus he never responded to any of my e-mails which I thought was strange...

:confused:

78boo
03-02-2004, 11:40 PM
Faceless Z, how about you go ahead and take responsibility. Do you know what a phone is for? Use it and don't be a jerk.

Hyperspeed97z28
03-02-2004, 11:42 PM
I doubt Doug intended to rip anyone off. hes on here and ls1.com almost everyday.. I'm sure its just a mix up and he'll make it right...

Give the guy a brake...

FacelessZ
03-02-2004, 11:42 PM
a phone? who am i supposed to call? if you actually understood the situation then youd know im not being the jerk...

i had this taken care of with brokenz about a week ago and apologized a few times for the mix up...now hes doing this...

brokenz
03-03-2004, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by FacelessZ
a phone? who am i supposed to call? if you actually understood the situation then youd know im not being the jerk...

i had this taken care of with brokenz about a week ago and apologized a few times for the mix up...now hes doing this...
On 2-22 you said they would be sent out ASAP. Here is your post...
http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=76248#post76248
How long was I supposed to wait this time? You got your money and Paypal sent you an email notifying you of this with my email addy and physical address. Even if some electronic gremlin stole it, do you now deny that you didn't have my physical address on the 22nd? I think you are pissed because I messed up some of your sales at ls2 and now delaying shipment. Just send them already.
James

brokenz
03-03-2004, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by FacelessZ
a phone? who am i supposed to call? if you actually understood the situation then youd know im not being the jerk...

i had this taken care of with brokenz about a week ago and apologized a few times for the mix up...now hes doing this...
I tried to be nice about this but we are past that point now. Just send the rockers or give me a refund. I will also post in the morning the thread from another forum where you tried to sell the same rockers. Try and paint a pretty face on that.

If you don't want me bad mouthing you then give me a tracking number. Post it publicly for all to see. After that we will have no other business.

Zerosheaven
03-03-2004, 01:54 AM
:rolleyes: hope this all works out

brokenz
03-03-2004, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by 97Z-M6
ive seen the rr they are boxed up ready to go out. ill call him and tell him aout this thread for you. so yall can figure it all out.


hes not going to stiff you
Thanks for the help.
James

FacelessZ
03-03-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by FacelessZ
How about next time you actually try contacting me or at LEAST respond to one of my many e-mails before you come on here posting a 'bad seller' thread...

Dans91
03-03-2004, 02:45 AM
wow:p :p

AGAIN!!!!

Good luck broken, you will get your stuff, but it may take a while.

Lataz
Dan

brokenz
03-03-2004, 03:03 AM
Faceless, I have contacted you by letting it be known to you publicly in recent weeks that I would like my parts already. I linked the thread once already where you even acknowledged that you have my money. Once you've got my money then I shouldn't have to hound you for my parts. You promised that you would send them out ASAP on the 22nd. I took you at your word again and still have not recieved the parts or a tracking number. Keep in mind that you've had my money much longer than this and even attempted to sell the same parts on another board.
James

2MCHPSI
03-03-2004, 06:19 AM
I guess Faceless has a different meaning of the term ASAP :rolleyes:

JasonD
03-03-2004, 07:54 AM
This needs to be taken to a more private level, this site is not to be used as a dispute service.

brokenz
03-03-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by JasonD
This needs to be taken to a more private level, this site is not to be used as a dispute service.
I'll respect whatever you say but just to be clear, members of this site should not make others aware of problematic sales? This sale did originate in your for sale forum by the way.

JasonD
03-03-2004, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by brokenz
I'll respect whatever you say but just to be clear, members of this site should not make others aware of problematic sales? This sale did originate in your for sale forum by the way.

Yes, I know what you are saying but it is no longer a "warning", it is now just a back and forth argument. Now it has evolved a bunch of bickering and involving threads on other sites. That is not going to solve anything and should be taken to private e-mail or to the authorities.

brokenz
03-03-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by JasonD
Yes, I know what you are saying but it is no longer a "warning", it is now just a back and forth argument. Now it has evolved a bunch of bickering and involving threads on other sites. That is not going to solve anything and should be taken to private e-mail or to the authorities.
Agreed. I should have just made the point that he was attempting to sell the item again at another site and that was what led to all of this in the first place. I've said all I have to say unless I don't recieve my item or a tracking number soon. And I didn't want to threaten to contact his local authorities but I guess it's possible I may have to do so. I'll leave this thread alone except to check for responses from FacelessZ. If I actually ever recieve the rockers then I'll also post so here if that is what he'd like. I'm not trying to ruin his name or anything like that. I only want my money or what I have paid him for.
James

brokenz
03-03-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by aggiez28
i hope the same thing dosnt happen to me....some guy sent me $$ but didnt include what it was for lol

im sure he will email me askin abotu his part sooner or later

brook
This is not the same thing. He recieved a confirmation email from paypal. Included was a link to the original thread, a description of what was being bought, and my home address. I don't see how you can compare this to what you are talking about.

FacelessZ
03-03-2004, 04:56 PM
I've sold many things on the board and I've had no problems receiving shipping addresses. If yours was included I would have had it and you would have had your rockers by now. I have had one measly week to get these out to you since we've last talked, which is enough time I do understand, but I have had other things going on in my life as well aside from this...

Your rockers will be out in the next day or two so relax and start watching the mail...

LPE Z convt
03-03-2004, 06:27 PM
:no:

DCG ls1
03-05-2004, 02:05 AM
james let me know in a week if you dont get them and I will personally go down there and get them for you man. I am about an hour away.

Daniel

FacelessZ
03-05-2004, 02:18 PM
they were just sent out

brokenz
03-06-2004, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by DCG ls1
james let me know in a week if you dont get them and I will personally go down there and get them for you man. I am about an hour away.

Daniel
Thanks Daniel. I appreciate the offer man. :)

brokenz
03-06-2004, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by FacelessZ
they were just sent out
Thank you. I'll be sure to update this thread when they arrive.

brokenz
03-09-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by FacelessZ
they were just sent out
You didn't happen to get a tracking number, did you?

FacelessZ
03-09-2004, 07:31 PM
nope should be there in the next couple days

brokenz
03-28-2004, 10:01 PM
I did recieve the rockers. Thanks.

Andrew88ZT56
08-20-2004, 07:56 AM
I know this is an old thread, but it's time to resurrect it.

I sent Doug Moore (FacelessZ) $180 back in April, for an Alpine amp. The check was deposited on 4/17/04. After waiting several weeks with nothing, I began to get concerned, and *finally* I hear from Doug that supposedly he mailed the amp, and it got returned to him as "address unknown". Now, I get 4 or 5 packages a week, delivered to my home, by all of the major carriers -- UPS, FedEx, and USPS. None of them have a problem finding my house.

Fast forward to June or so... Doug then suggests trying to ship to a different address (I'm starting to get suspicious at this point that he's just stalling). I give him my work address, where we get 10-12 packages per DAY. It's right at a fairly busy intersection, anybody could find it.

After waiting a few weeks and getting nothing, and my incessant questioning, Doug says that he sent it via USPS, but didn't get a tracking number "because he was in a rush".

When the amp doesn't show up (hard for it to show up when it was never sent, eh?), Doug says he's going to just give me my money back. OK, great, works for me, I don't even NEED the amp anymore at this point.

It's now several weeks later, and after he promised he was going to put a few dollars into my paypal account, and send the rest by check, I have nothing. Not a cent. I'm tired of pussyfooting around with this, 4 months after I sent the money, I think I deserve some satisfaction one way or another.

You out there Doug? Your number is up. :mad:

brokenz
08-20-2004, 08:50 AM
Good luck buddy. I had to chase him to different sites to ever get my rockers. I just posted a thread in another forum that I know a personal friend of his frequents. I can't believe that he still does this kind of stuff. He fails to realize what a small world we live in and that some of us know people that know him personally. He has no anonymoty online. I'll let you know if my buddy contacts him and then we'll see if he answers this thread.

brokenz
08-20-2004, 09:11 AM
Just did a quick check at another site. He has this... somnambulist81@hotmail.com listed as an email addy. His AIM and Yahoo info is the same though.

brokenz
08-20-2004, 09:29 AM
Just to let you know, I just sent him a PM at another site that he still appears to be active at and at a third site my friend has let me know that he is going to ask him about it. I'm out till later.

Hyperspeed97z28
08-20-2004, 11:30 AM
Doug is still on this site and is using this name : Somnambulist

Andrew88ZT56
08-20-2004, 01:48 PM
Thanks all for the assistance, keep me posted if anyone hears anything, I'll reply to this post with my progress, and a resolution if one ever occurs.

-Andrew

Munson
08-20-2004, 02:08 PM
that sucks he needs a kick in the face

Hyperspeed97z28
08-20-2004, 03:17 PM
anyone else notice this has happened quite a few times with doug ???

I've exchanged e-mails and pm's with doug a couple times and he seems like a good guy. I dunno why this keeps happening ....

brokenz
08-20-2004, 03:20 PM
Doug is still on this site and is using this name : Somnambulist
That's just wrong. I wonder how many people would do business with him if they knew who he was and could easily look up his post history and see the problems that buyers and sellers have had with him. I wonder what his next ID will be.

FireHawk409
08-20-2004, 08:39 PM
I bought an alarm from him awhile back and he took forever to send it. He told me he didnt have the money for shipping and had to wait to get more cash. I wont be buying anything from him ever.

BIGMAC
08-20-2004, 09:18 PM
I recently bought a NEW EX-612 spring kit from him and upon starting my car heard a hell of a rattle. Upon inspection one spring snapped and after a closer inspection, all the springs had hairline cracks. He passed it off as a previous members error. I spoke to a lawyer and found that if Doug sold me the parts with no previous knowledge that they werent new then I have no case. But after seeing this thread I think he might be paying for my rebuild. Thank you dudes for posting this;
)

brokenz
08-27-2004, 08:52 AM
Has Somnambulist aka Doug aka Facelessz contacted everyone now?

Andrew88ZT56
08-27-2004, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I got a whopping $5.47 back towards the $180 he owes me.

Andrew

brokenz
08-28-2004, 11:57 PM
Yeah, I got a whopping $5.47 back towards the $180 he owes me.

Andrew
If he refuses to do what is correct may I suggest you contact his local police. I believe he has a charge pending and may not want additional problems with them.

RedHottG2
09-04-2004, 09:46 PM
His NEW user name is dmoor88, watch out people!! :rolleyes:

1984camaroz28
09-04-2004, 10:02 PM
I recently bought a NEW EX-612 spring kit from him and upon starting my car heard a hell of a rattle. Upon inspection one spring snapped and after a closer inspection, all the springs had hairline cracks. He passed it off as a previous members error. I spoke to a lawyer and found that if Doug sold me the parts with no previous knowledge that they werent new then I have no case. But after seeing this thread I think he might be paying for my rebuild. Thank you dudes for posting this;
)
Just wondering how u plan on geting money out of him when he never pays anyone nor has money to ship things "cant get blood from a stone"

Andrew88ZT56
09-04-2004, 10:08 PM
Quick update:

I have just gotten $50 back from Doug, for a total of about $55 out of the $180 I sent.

I'll post any further updates, hopefully he comes up with the other $125.

-Andrew

Z-RATED94
09-05-2004, 02:08 AM
Take care when dealing this dude! His screen name is always coming up, and it's never good news. :confused:

LPE Z convt
09-05-2004, 05:09 AM
Hey doug ... Remember me LPE Z Convt you were going to build a badass car and smoke me when you get to Indy :D Sounds like you better stay home boy... BTW wheres that car? Anyways good luck in the future :D :D :D :cool:

Tim H
09-06-2004, 09:47 AM
Its very strange when you buy something from a person how all of a sudden,they go on vaction,someone dies in the family,lost their house,parts are missing,always an excuse,but they had no trouble cashing the check the same day as they received it driving right by UPS!
I wouldn't buy anything off this site if you sent it to me first and I got to try it for a month,then sent the money to you!
When someone sends you money for something,the world stops until you take care of the whole deal,not just you getting money!
There are no excuses,cash the check the part is no longer yours,don't send it and that makes you a thief.
There are several things on here I would like to buy but noway.

Antz97ZNJ
09-06-2004, 10:33 AM
your warned before u sell on here, you should of known what you were getting yourself into, just tired of people crying on here that they didnt get there stuff, thats the chance you took

brokenz
09-16-2004, 12:15 PM
your warned before u sell on here, you should of known what you were getting yourself into, just tired of people crying on here that they didnt get there stuff, thats the chance you took
If you ever get ripped off then just don't post about it then.