Wondering about some bike times- CBR/03R1/00R6....

Well almost all my buddies have bikes now, and I was wondering how I could stand up to some of these bikes.


03R1---Its the blue one dont know if its 03 or not.
00R6-
CBR900- I think if they make a 900/ red bike 02/03
00+suszuki 600/900


I would assume all these would be a problem from a stop with street tires but how about a 60 roll.


Does any one have times ETs on these bikes with a fair driver. Any predictions of what might happen..

Try this link.

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/

If you clock your car from 60-80 and 80-100 and compare to their times you will get a great idea of what you want to know.

I have seen some at the local track most seem to have problems taking off but still run High 10s low 11s.

I ran the 1/8 in 7.04 at 102mph in 2nd gear,,,,on my 02' GSXR 1000...had her at 182mph over the summer....no car can ever catch these things on the road...

Originally posted by Hawk350
no car can ever catch these things on the road...

:bs:

You don't think a Mclaren could beat a bike from a 150 mph roll? My point is, some cars can.

Originally posted by Steve Y
:bs:

You don't think a Mclaren could beat a bike from a 150 mph roll? My point is, some cars can.

Well, this is an f-body forum not a $1,000,000 car forum. There are guys with bikes that run turbo's and have 350 rwhp. If the rider's balls are big enough, they will pull 200mph+

Originally posted by Hawk350
Well, this is an f-body forum not a $1,000,000 car forum. There are guys with bikes that run turbo's and have 350 rwhp. If the rider's balls are big enough, they will pull 200mph+

A seriously modified F-body will do good against stock bikes from a roll. Originally you were talking about your 182 mph bike. Heck, a stock Viper can top that. Those turbo Busas, etc. are insane, though.

Originally posted by Steve Y
:bs:

You don't think a Mclaren could beat a bike from a 150 mph roll? My point is, some cars can.

Who races from a 150 mph roll?

Originally posted by 94SLUG
Well almost all my buddies have bikes now, and I was wondering how I could stand up to some of these bikes.


03R1---Its the blue one dont know if its 03 or not.
00R6-
CBR900- I think if they make a 900/ red bike 02/03
00+suszuki 600/900


I would assume all these would be a problem from a stop with street tires but how about a 60 roll.


Does any one have times ETs on these bikes with a fair driver. Any predictions of what might happen..

Those bikes with a decent rider will be mid 10 's to low 11's...

Suzuki doesnt have a 900 cc bike though..They have 600/750/100/1300

Originally posted by 94SLUG
Well almost all my buddies have bikes now, and I was wondering how I could stand up to some of these bikes.


03R1---Its the blue one dont know if its 03 or not.
00R6-
CBR900- I think if they make a 900/ red bike 02/03
00+suszuki 600/900


I would assume all these would be a problem from a stop with street tires but how about a 60 roll.


Does any one have times ETs on these bikes with a fair driver. Any predictions of what might happen..

There is a video of a 600F4I vs a 03 cobra with 540RWHP on the net. The 600F4I being one of the slower 600's and it pretty much eats the cobra up.

http://f-bodyhideout.com/videos.htm

hit the link, go to Edit in your browser, find (on this page), then type in Harlan.

Pretty cool video of a guy racing a bike, says what kind at the end.

not sure the mods the F-body had, but they must be pretty substantial.

Harlan has an Incon twin-turbo set-up and traps in the 140s. I don't think his car was that brutal when that video was made, tho... Any well ridden sportbike will leave mildly modded cars for dead.

I just got rid of a Honda CBR 954. An 02 model. It was fast as hell. I know that a 600 plus hp car stands a very good chance at beating a bike very much so at high speeds. On a curvy road the bike will rule with a good rider but thats like saying take it to the twisties. No new bike from now on can exceed 186 mph stock. It was a manufactures agreement a few years ago. If you don't believe me than thats your ignorance and I'm sorry.

Originally posted by Hawk350
I ran the 1/8 in 7.04 at 102mph in 2nd gear,,,,on my 02' GSXR 1000...had her at 182mph over the summer....no car can ever catch these things on the road...


Well the mustang motor on my webpage held a gsxr1000 from 30 to 80 pretty evenly. That was my brothers car and I bairly beat him before so I think I could stand a chance on atleast one or two of them.

All the bike times that were posted were from stock bikes, but then again, nobody rides a stock bike these days. All have pipes and PC3R commanders which increase power by 15%.

Originally posted by SpeedzAdisease
On a curvy road the bike will rule with a good rider but thats like saying take it to the twisties.

I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

Originally posted by Impulze
Who races from a 150 mph roll?

Nobody. The point is, highly modded cars do well from high speed rolls against bikes.

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

They must have been unexperienced riders....no way will you mustany take or even keep up with a 9-second bike.

There was an article in Road and Track I think with the 2003 Z06 and the GSXR 1000.....Z06 lost in all categories, bike pulled 1.2 G's if I remember correctly. An experienced rider can hug corners (winders) 100mph+.....regular cars just dont do that.

OK if we ever get a race going I wont be racing street bikes on a curvy road with my solid axle road slug. It will be straight line 12psi with 100 low lead from 60+ to about 125 area in the middle of the desert( no tracks here).. BY the time it stops F&cking snowing here I might even have a small shot of gas.

Originally posted by Steve Y
:bs:

You don't think a Mclaren could beat a bike from a 150 mph roll? My point is, some cars can.


a 150 roll? LOL what are the chances of having enough road to GET TO 150, line up, count down, and take off without smashing into something else? Man...

I tried a 100 roll once just for sh*ts & grins... took us about 5 times to get it right, and I think we ended up just taking off at around 95. LOL It takes a lot of cooperation & teamwork to do a triple digit roll...:D

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

If your in cali I have some friends who will give u a nice run...

Originally posted by Hawk350
They must have been unexperienced riders....no way will you mustany take or even keep up with a 9-second bike.

I am talking about a very curvy road. Most bike riders don't have the balls to push it hard enough to win. Especially with sand on the roads around here! I know the bike would decimate me in a straight line.

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car. It's b/c they could not ride worth a crap. Get me a bike and I'll run ya for all the money in the world.

Originally posted by Hawk350
All the bike times that were posted were from stock bikes, but then again, nobody rides a stock bike these days. All have pipes and PC3R commanders which increase power by 15%.

I was gonna write the same thing. I am gonna have Nitrous by summer on mine.

My Bro's ZX6R went stock 11.9 at 116mph.
he just bought a CBR954 we will see what that does once the snow melts.

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

Sorry have to call this out I am a EX-Mustang owner I know these things are ok but beat a ton of bikes??? I have worked on bikes for the last 16yrs and never had a car beat me or any of my friends bikes. :bs:

Originally posted by Eliminator
Sorry have to call this out I am a EX-Mustang owner I know these things are ok but beat a ton of bikes??? I have worked on bikes for the last 16yrs and never had a car beat me or any of my friends bikes. :bs:

On a very curvy road!!!!!!!! Not a straight line! :mad:

Originally posted by SpeedzAdisease
It's b/c they could not ride worth a crap. Get me a bike and I'll run ya for all the money in the world.

I would love that challenge. Not to be cocky, just to see how a properly ridden bike stacks up against my car on a very twisty road. I know the bike would kill me in a straight line.

Originally posted by Steve Y
I would love that challenge. Not to be cocky, just to see how a properly ridden bike stacks up against my car on a very twisty road. I know the bike would kill me in a straight line. I wish that you lived closer to me so I could show you man. We got the perfect two lane off the beatin path roads all over the place around here. Natches Trace parkway is my favorite I know it like the back of my hand.

Originally posted by Steve Y
On a very curvy road!!!!!!!! Not a straight line! :mad:

Sorry where I live there are no really curvy roads but the curves we do have a car wouldnt stand a chance!!! :mad: :mad: :D :D :D

;) I love this post

Originally posted by Eliminator
but the curves we do have a car wouldnt stand a chance!!! :mad: :mad: :D :D :D

What kind of curves are those? Ones you can take at 180 mph?

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

Can you take a 40mph curve at 120-130? Can you take a 50mph curve at over 150mph? Does your car top out at 186mph (which is where my governor kicks in)? Will your car run a 9's in the 1/4?

Welcome to the world of stock gsxr1000's. I ran a 9.86@143 stock. I've got a tank cam video of myself running from 0-167mph if ya don't believe me how fast and hard it accelerates.

My buddy ran a high 10 second pass on his gsxr600, and I ran the 9.86. A stock hayabusa should be 10flat, and a zx12 should be 10.0-10.1.

Sorry bud, the people you raced were squids. Guys with nice bikes that can't drive for ****.

Originally posted by juiced_lt1
Can you take a 40mph curve at 120-130? Can you take a 50mph curve at over 150mph?

You can do that on a stock bike? I'm waiting for video proof!

Give me a place to upload the video. It's 10.8mb. I didn't get the tank cam till this last october, and I sold my bike in november, and never got a chance to make any runs though the national forest, where all track freaks go when the track is closed. But the video does show me hitting 0-150mph in 10 seconds (helmetless I might add) I also have about 20minutes of random video of some stunt stuff...

Trust me, a good rider can triple the speed of a 30-50mph curve...go flip on the Speed Channel on two wheel tuesday and watch ama/world superbike. Same bikes that are sold in the stores...

Originally posted by juiced_lt1

Trust me, a good rider can triple the speed of a 30-50mph curve...go flip on the Speed Channel on two wheel tuesday and watch ama/world superbike. Same bikes that are sold in the stores...

I am talking a bone stock street legal bike including the tires it came with, not sticky race tires. How many cornering G's does something like that pull?

Actually, the tires most good riders run only last 1000-2000 miles, sometimes less if they are used heavily on the track...thats pretty damn sticky if you ask me =)

Originally posted by juiced_lt1
Actually, the tires most good riders run only last 1000-2000 miles, sometimes less if they are used heavily on the track...thats pretty damn sticky if you ask me =)

Are those the stock tires? Then an apples to apples comparison would be for my Stang to have very sticky road race tires that last 1000 miles. Then we'll see if the bike can hang on a very twisty road.

:bow: GSXR-1000/FBODY :bow:

Sorry you have no clue...

Originally posted by juiced_lt1
:bow: GSXR-1000/FBODY :bow:

Sorry you have no clue...

:confused:

Originally posted by juiced_lt1
GSXR-1000/FBODY

Sorry you have no clue...

Originally posted by Steve Y
:confused:

Ah Steve has a Mustang.
Steve nobody who has a motorcycle leaves the stock tires on because they suck. Anybody who leaves stock tires on doesnt want their bike very long most are very hard tires slide all over when on the gas.

Originally posted by Steve Y
What kind of curves are those? Ones you can take at 180 mph?

Steve can your Mustang take a corner at 180?? Steve you stated this below:

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

How was the race on the road doing corners at 180mph or track??
:cool:

Stock tires on one of these bikes are plenty sticky once they get some heat on them. Don't be a tard.:cry:

Originally posted by Eliminator
Steve can your Mustang take a corner at 180?? Steve you stated this below:

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

How was the race on the road doing corners at 180mph or track??
:cool:

You still have not answered the question. What curves around you will the car not have a chance?

Me accelerating from 0-167 on my STOCK gsxr1000 (152hp):

:eek: http://amct.tamu.edu/files/0-167.mpeg :eek:

Me in my camaro when it ran a 9.0 1/8mile the weekend before(stock) vs. my roomate riding my bike and only revving it to 9k rpm every shift cause he was scared to punch it :cry: what a wuss LOL (redline is 12.5k)

:death: http://amct.tamu.edu/files/95zvsgsxr1k.mov :death:

As for cornering, go look up some scca track times around your area, then compare them to sportbike track times, that's all I can tell you bud. Enjoy the videos...

That video makes me want my 954 back. If I had the money I'd go buy the new CBR. Oh well ! I'll have a few more before it's over with. I'm going through my car stage again.

Originally posted by Steve Y
You still have not answered the question. What curves around you will the car not have a chance?

Do you really want me to name streets??:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SpeedzAdisease
Stock tires on one of these bikes are plenty sticky once they get some heat on them. Don't be a tard.:cry:

Dont be a tard? :rolleyes: Only a squid races on stock tires.:cry:

Originally posted by Eliminator
Do you really want me to name streets??:rolleyes:

No I want you to tell how many mph the bike can take the turn at and how many G's the bike can pull.

Steve, I want you to video your car accelerating from 0-167, then post it for us. Then go take a 35mph curve at 85 (much less than a bike can take it at), and make sure we can see the speedo. I bet you don't make it. And that's not even very hard for a bike to do.

Originally posted by juiced_lt1
Steve, I want you to video your car accelerating from 0-167, then post it for us. Then go take a 35mph curve at 85 (much less than a bike can take it at), and make sure we can see the speedo. I bet you don't make it. And that's not even very hard for a bike to do.

You guys are so full of it about how these bikes outhandle cars by SOOOOO much. In a straight line, yes they are fast. But a stock bike on city streets (sand, salt, road grime, etc.) corners worse than most performance cars. I've never met a bike rider yet willing to push it hard enough on city streets to beat a performance car going balls out in the curves. Curves rated at 35 mph vary a lot. We need to talk about 1 specific curve.

pick a nice, 6month old, fresh paved (with good pavement), country road that has a 40mph long sweeper that goes at 70°-100° around, no debris, no oil slicks, a slight 5° bank, 90° F road surface, and I can garantee if a guy on a gsxr1000 is riding on metzler m1's, wearing full leathers w/ pucks so they can drag their knee, and has decent experience, he can take the corner at 120mph with no problem and with no fears of crashing. Those types of corners litter the country roads where I live and we fly through them all the time. I have no reason to BS you Steve...

Also, people dumb enough to try and corner a bike on a city road that has known oil slicks, coolant, and gravel are squids and prolly have no clue what a knee puck even is.

So basically we are talking about skidpad #s. I need some skidpad #s from stock bikes or bikes with ??? mods and then we will have an excellent basis to compare them to stock or modded cars. I think Road and Track or Car and Driver did a test like this a few years back. They had a motorcycle with sticky tires doing .90 or so G's on the skidpad with a very experienced rider. My car does .86ish G's with stock crappy tires. It takes a ballsy experienced rider with full leathers, helmet, knee pads, and sticky tires on a perfectly clean road to get those #s. He probably also must be willing to drag a knee. All I am saying is, i've never run across a rider yet that is willing to push it that hard and beat me in the curves. MAYBE it will happen someday.

Originally posted by Hawk350
Well, this is an f-body forum not a $1,000,000 car forum. There are guys with bikes that run turbo's and have 350 rwhp. If the rider's balls are big enough, they will pull 200mph+
I remember seeing a video of a turbo 'busa with a 220 mph speedo. The needle on that thing was climbing like my tach does in 3rd at wot. It pegged at 220 and you could still see the tach on it climbing. He had to be going 240+

Originally posted by Eliminator
Dont be a tard? :rolleyes: Only a squid races on stock tires.:cry: I used racing tires on my bike. My point was that stock tires on my 954 were plenty sticky to run hard on in the curves. Why don't you try using your eyes when you read so you can take it all in. SQUID !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by SpeedzAdisease
I used racing tires on my bike. My point was that stock tires on my 954 were plenty sticky to run hard on in the curves. Why don't you try using your eyes when you read so you can take it all in. SQUID !!!!!!!!

I also used race tires when I had my old bike, but I wouldnt trust the stock tires on most bikes, if you thought stock was good enough happy for ya. I did read your statement my eyes were open so yes I took it all in when I replied.

I don't think it's that hard to belive that you've never lost to a bike in the curves, but don't think it's because your mustang is better in the curves then a motorcycle, it's not. Plain and simple most people that own bikes don't know how to ride them, and don't have the balls to either. Take a ride against any person that really knows how to ride and they'll pass you like your going in reverse. I must have seen the "bad driver" comment posted million times in reference to cars. Thats a vehicle with one gas pedal, one brake, maybe a clutch (5 or 6 speed) and you turn a wheel to get it to go from side to side. Now compare that to a vehicle what has all various parts of your body doing things. Left hand clutch, right hand front brake and gas. Left foot gear selector, right foot back brake, and lets not forget that you have to move your body to get your bike to go where you want it to. So now with all of that compare how many bad drivers there are on the road to good drivers, think of how many bad riders there are in comparison to good riders. Now even with that lets say you found a good rider, now fear comes into play. A lot of people have posted that there freak out speed was 120-125 (enclosed in a car). Imagine doing that speed around a curve inches or less from the ground with no protection but what, some leather? Why do all of that to say "I beat a mustang" no offense to your car, but I don't know anyone who rides that wouldn't slap me just for bringing the subject up. Basically this whole thing is to say that you beat the rider (not at all unthinkable), not the bikes.

There are way to many variables on a bike..you could have raced guys who have no idea what there doing. It is much easier, to push a car to its limits, than it is a bike, end of discussion. Go to www.bikemovies.com and check out some of those canyon runs and stuff...I've been in my car, taking a turn at about 60..tires starting to squeal a little, and my friend on his 03 R1 will pass me on the wrong side of the road like its nothing...he's not even close to having that bike layed completely over...he could take it much faster if he wanted. Your crazy if you think a modern sportbike doesent out handle a sports car, by that much.

Originally posted by NoSlowCamaro
Your crazy if you think a modern sportbike doesent out handle a sports car, by that much.

Prove it! How many G's does the bike pull on a skidpad? How fast does it slalom?

I don't have time to go around the internet looking up numbers, but here is a magazine article putting a 2002 GSX-R1000 vs. Z06, the numbers speak for themselves. http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608

Originally posted by Steve Y
Prove it! How many G's does the bike pull on a skidpad? How fast does it slalom?

To be honest with you..i dont think i have ever read anywhere how many G's a bike can pull. I think it has to do with how a bike corners...obviously it does not remain upright..its leaned over. I dont think you can compare how many G's a bike pulls..to a car, because they are completely different in how they turn.

Originally posted by ZekesZ
I don't have time to go around the internet looking up numbers, but here is a magazine article putting a 2002 GSX-R1000 vs. Z06, the numbers speak for themselves. http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608
That pretty much sums it up right there.

Originally posted by Steve Y
You guys are so full of it about how these bikes outhandle cars by SOOOOO much. In a straight line, yes they are fast. But a stock bike on city streets (sand, salt, road grime, etc.) corners worse than most performance cars. I've never met a bike rider yet willing to push it hard enough on city streets to beat a performance car going balls out in the curves. Curves rated at 35 mph vary a lot. We need to talk about 1 specific curve.

Are you saying race tracks are clean? racers constantly have to clean their windshields, visors, what have you. lol

Originally posted by mullettour
That pretty much sums it up right there.


Sums it up? Kevin Schwantz isn't exactly Joe Smith, your average rider. LOL

Originally posted by Steve Y
I've taken that challenge by tons of bike riders and never lost yet in my car.

I always take a challenge if the conditions are right--- i.e. light-no traffic, nice night, etc. Never lost to a bike from a roll. Have a buddy who's a cop. He drives a 2001 z28 with a 5-speed auto. that's right, 5-speed auto. It was an interceptor. Also has a gsx-r 1000. I used to ride with him back when I had my cbr 900rr. He's an experienced rider. Just got his new gixxer and finally rolled over 500 miles, he wanted to play so I followed the group onto the highway. We nailed it at 60 and I never looked back. He said by the time he shut down I was still creeping and his speedo was reading 184, and yes, I was in my camaro. Now, when we went from a dead stop, he creamed me. Oh well.

Originally posted by BirchMan98z
Sums it up? Kevin Schwantz isn't exactly Joe Smith, your average rider. LOL


But it does sum it up. As I stated, it's easy to beat a rider, quite a bit harder to beat a bike. He said show me that a bike out handles a car, I think it's pretty obvious that the bike outhandled the Z06, which I think most of us would agree is a pretty decent handling car, so yeah I'd say it sums it up.

Boy this thread needs to be locked.:D

Originally posted by ZekesZ
I don't have time to go around the internet looking up numbers, but here is a magazine article putting a 2002 GSX-R1000 vs. Z06, the numbers speak for themselves. http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608

:bow: Good work! Somebody finally brings some good proof to the table! So it looks like a bike can outhandle a car with a professional rider in full leathers, that is ballzy as hell and will drag knees on every turn, on a smooth clean racetrack. No wonder no one yet has been able to even keep with my car on the mountain roads I drive fast on (sand, salt, non pro riders, etc). Maybe someday I will come across a rider that will dust me in the turns!

Originally posted by NoSlowCamaro
To be honest with you..i dont think i have ever read anywhere how many G's a bike can pull. I think it has to do with how a bike corners...obviously it does not remain upright..its leaned over. I dont think you can compare how many G's a bike pulls..to a car, because they are completely different in how they turn.

Somebody could make an instrument that could measure cornering G's on a bike if they worked hard enough at it and spend enough $$.

Originally posted by BirchMan98z
Are you saying race tracks are clean? racers constantly have to clean their windshields, visors, what have you. lol

Yeah, but they don't have sand, gravel, salt, spare tires, kids toys, rocks, etc. on them like roads around here!

Originally posted by Steve Y
:bow: Good work! Somebody finally brings some good proof to the table! So it looks like a bike can outhandle a car with a professional rider in full leathers, that is ballzy as hell and will drag knees on every turn, on a smooth clean racetrack. No wonder no one yet has been able to even keep with my car on the mountain roads I drive fast on (sand, salt, non pro riders, etc). Maybe someday I will come across a rider that will dust me in the turns!

Don't forget that it was a pro driver in the Z06 too. I never doubted that you never lost, but you don't have to run in pro rider to do so. I good rider with no fear will beat you quite handly but there aren't many good riders out there, let alone one willing to risk his life to prove to you that it can be done. Maybe you'll never come across one that can, until then you can probably say that your a better driver then all of the people that you've raced were riders, you can def. take pride in that.

Originally posted by BirchMan98z
I always take a challenge if the conditions are right--- i.e. light-no traffic, nice night, etc. Never lost to a bike from a roll. Have a buddy who's a cop. He drives a 2001 z28 with a 5-speed auto. that's right, 5-speed auto. It was an interceptor. Also has a gsx-r 1000. I used to ride with him back when I had my cbr 900rr. He's an experienced rider. Just got his new gixxer and finally rolled over 500 miles, he wanted to play so I followed the group onto the highway. We nailed it at 60 and I never looked back. He said by the time he shut down I was still creeping and his speedo was reading 184, and yes, I was in my camaro. Now, when we went from a dead stop, he creamed me. Oh well.

This post is kinda confusing to me...so you were in your camaro..and you raced a GSXR 1000, and you pulled him to 184 mph?? What mods are on your car??? Because if its anything close to stock..or hell..even if it had some serious mods..if that guy knew what he was doing which you claim he does, than there is no way in hell you pulled him to 184 mph...Just watch that video that dude posted..of him running it up to 167 MPH. I've never seen a camaro pull that hard all the way up to 167...never.

Not trying to flame or anything because I really don't know, but what 5 speed auto did he have? I've never heard of it in a camaro, I didn't even know chevy made one. I thought police interceptors where B4C's which are little more then stock Z28's (bigget alt.'s I belive). I think it'd be pretty cool if they made one just wondered what it was and where I'd be able to pick one up.

Originally posted by NoSlowCamaro
This post is kinda confusing to me...so you were in your camaro..and you raced a GSXR 1000, and you pulled him to 184 mph?? What mods are on your car??? Because if its anything close to stock..or hell..even if it had some serious mods..if that guy knew what he was doing which you claim he does, than there is no way in hell you pulled him to 184 mph...Just watch that video that dude posted..of him running it up to 167 MPH. I've never seen a camaro pull that hard all the way up to 167...never.

That Camaro would have to have very serious mods to do that!

Pulled to 187 in a 5 speed auto time to raise the flag:bs: What kind of mods do you have? I dont think I could pull a gsxr1000 to 187 even with 500rwhp.