lons94z
02-17-2004, 09:45 PM
I searched for awhile.
Say this REALLY needs to happen.
Custom clutch can be built. All the stock 3800 clutch "stuff" can be used. Custom flywheel built.
Will the 3800 T-5 BOLT TO an LT1. WHY?
Thanks
viper03af
02-18-2004, 12:15 AM
no bolt pat diff
cause there was some v6ers wnating a T56 in there 3800
MustangEater82
02-18-2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by viper03af
no bolt pat diff
cause there was some v6ers wnating a T56 in there 3800
yep what he said.
anyways isn't the T5 only rated to like 300 ft lbs. of torquel that is why it was never put on anything bigger then a 3.8L, 4.3L or 305?
all 3rd gen 350s were auto only, and vettes had 4+3 trannies or T56s.
94GrayV6
02-18-2004, 12:34 PM
It might bolt up, but it wont hold up.
fbird95
02-18-2004, 05:18 PM
Yeah Bell Housing Problem. I guess you guys arent familiar with the 2.8 L T-5's in the 80s using that ford bell housing.
lons94z
02-18-2004, 05:33 PM
So an LT1 era 3800V6 T-5 WILL bolt onto an LT1.
Is there an input shaft issue, or do those rumors stem from the 3400V6 tranny.
I know the 3400 T-5's have different input shafts from the regular V8-T-5'S from the 3rd gens. So maybe this is why people think the input shaft is different.
Anyone have a 3800 V6 T-5 W/bellhousing attached, that they can measure the input shaft on?
Thanks for all the help guys!!
fbird95
02-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Wont work out real well, you would need adaptors and what not to make it work. Recall they do bolt up to 2 totally different engine configurations, LT1 is 90 degree, and the 3.8 is 60 degree.
lons94z
02-18-2004, 07:07 PM
I thought that the 3400 was 60 degree and the 3800 90 degree.
fbird95
02-23-2004, 01:10 PM
I will double check that later on tonight. But reguardless of degrees it wont bolt up nor hold up.
dbzmatrix
02-23-2004, 01:32 PM
3.8L is 90 degree, 3.4L is 60 degree
MustangEater82
02-23-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by dbzmatrix
3.8L is 90 degree, 3.4L is 60 degree
thats right...
fitment issues or not, you put a t5 to a lt1 the torque is going to die realy quick 2-3 t5s with custom adapter plates is more expnesive then a T-56 swap
lons94z
02-23-2004, 03:21 PM
I wouldn't expect it to hold up real well. And I planned on yearly rebuilds.
But the stock 3800 clutch setup would be easier to adapt to a 2 or 3 disk 5.5" or 7.25" Tilton clutch.
Plus the trans has to be lighter and 1st and 2nd gearing is MUCH better.
Plus the initial cost would be lower than a T56
But if it won't bolt up it won't do me any good.
morb|d
02-23-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by lons94z
I wouldn't expect it to hold up real well. And I planned on yearly rebuilds.
But the stock 3800 clutch setup would be easier to adapt to a 2 or 3 disk 5.5" or 7.25" Tilton clutch.
Plus the trans has to be lighter and 1st and 2nd gearing is MUCH better.
Plus the initial cost would be lower than a T56
But if it won't bolt up it won't do me any good.
weekly rebuilds sounds more realistic... don't bother. its like putting plastic wheels on a locomotive.
but technicly any transmission can be made to fit to any engine (provided the input shaft is proper). all you have to do is get a custom forged bellhousing and you're set! of course, you'd have to really want to throw your money down the drain really bad to do something like that.
fbird95
02-26-2004, 11:20 AM
well it looks like others got back to the 60 vs 90 question first.
It definatly wont hold up, it couldnt handle the torque of the 5.7 in 3rd gens, it definatly wont handle LT1 Torque.