Nomad for 2007.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6854

Here's an excerpt--

"The sporty Chevrolet Nomad concept vehicle, first shown at the Detroit auto show last month, is tentatively approved for production by mid 2007, while an assortment of other sporty spin-offs of the new Kappa "architecture" are set to follow, well-placed sources tell TheCarConnection.com. These include a new Chevrolet coupe, a hardtop Buick convertible, and the long-sought "entry" model for Cadillac."


"A new Chevy coupe".

Have we been going down the wrong trail with all of this talk of Zeta?

We need some engineers to chime in here.

Kappa can be lengthened....but can it also be widened to to incorporate a V8 for a certain "new Chevrolet Coupe"?

It’s just a guess, but I’m betting this will be a separate car form the Camaro.

Originally posted by stars1010
It’s just a guess, but I’m betting this will be a separate car form the Camaro.

Agreed. You said it yourself Z284Ever, the Kappa architecture wasn't designed with V8's (or V6's) in mind. I'm guessing this is something unrelated, but I can't figure out why Chevy would get two Kappa cars assuming the Nomad is going to happen...:confused:

one word CHEVELLE!!!!!


Well, if it wasn't me, I'm sure someone else would have said it:D

Production in mid-2007 as a 2008 model? Three and a half FREAKIN years away :mad: :rolleyes:

I wish they would name them something else just incase of a flop they dont ruin the name.

Wow, in 2-3 years, things will be very interesting at GM. I can't believe all the new models that will be comming out. I always liked the latest Nomad concept, my guess is that it will look very similar to the concept, just as the Solstice is.

Maybe the thinking is that many of these kappa niche vehicles are planned for a short term run. So they must be planning many vehicles off this platform to extend it's life and also add variety to the product line.

Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Wow, in 2-3 years, things will be very interesting at GM.
In 2-3 years, I wont be shopping in the sports car segment.:(

Originally posted by slt
In 2-3 years, I wont be shopping in the sports car segment.:(

Ahhhhh, but I will.:)

Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Agreed. You said it yourself Z284Ever, the Kappa architecture wasn't designed with V8's (or V6's) in mind. I'm guessing this is something unrelated, but I can't figure out why Chevy would get two Kappa cars assuming the Nomad is going to happen...:confused:

Yeah, I said that...and it's still true.

Maybe Zeta and Kappa share component sets and architecture...but have enough differences to be called different platform names. I don't know.

But what's this "new Chevrolet Coupe"?

Is it even possible to slot another Chevy coupe their?

At the same price point you'll have base Camaro, Nomad, Cobalt SS....and the "new Chevy coupe". Or is this Chevy coupe that they are refering to...the Camaro?


And what's this Buick 2+2 convertible with retractable hard top? Sounds like the Buick that Tiger Woods was seen in and labeled a Zeta.

As far as the small Caddy... I know they've said "officially" that Cadillac won't go below CTS...but if they were, Kappa would be sophisticated enough to fill the bill.

I need more info!

Why isn't the Kappa designed for V8's? Isn't it just a restyled structure of the Corvettes platform? In what way does it prohibit it from fitting a V8? Did they shorten the front end or something?

Originally posted by Meccadeth
Why isn't the Kappa designed for V8's? Isn't it just a restyled structure of the Corvettes platform? In what way does it prohibit it from fitting a V8? Did they shorten the front end or something?

Kappa may have a few Corvette pieces but it isn't just a simple shortening of Corvette. The thing is, Kappa is supposed to be the small RWD niche platform for an array of products among different divisions. Keyword being small. I know there are people that have the "V8 or what's the point" attitude but there's no reason to give Kappa large motor capability here--that is (presumably) what Zeta is for. Anyway, I saw the guts of Kappa at NAIAS and believe me...the Ecotec almost looks shoehorned in there. Very little space between the firewall and front bumper.

Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Kappa may have a few Corvette pieces but it isn't just a simple shortening of Corvette. The thing is, Kappa is supposed to be the small RWD niche platform for an array of products among different divisions. Keyword being small. I know there are people that have the "V8 or what's the point" attitude but there's no reason to give Kappa large motor capability here--that is (presumably) what Zeta is for. Anyway, I saw the guts of Kappa at NAIAS and believe me...the Ecotec almost looks shoehorned in there. Very little space between the firewall and front bumper.

I don't think the the Solstice should have a V8 at all, it doesn't make sense for the market their trying to break into. I thought there was a thread from a month ago that said that all Kappa is, is a Corvette chassis with minor differences. That makes me wonder why they couldn't fit a V8 in there if they wanted to on some future application.

Can Kappa hold a v6 or v8?

Why not.

I view the kappa and zeta architecture's as being sort of a jigsaw puzzle. Take front end of A and weld to B and you get C.

They could take the front end off an architecture that has the capability of holding a v6 or v8 and mate it to a architecture that doesn't.

Sure, they would have to beefen it up. But it would be substantially cheaper that developing an all new platform.

Zeta, may be intended for larger displacement engines such as a v8. That doesn't mean that it's components can't be shared with the kappa architecture.

If this new kappa based coupe is indeed in the pipeline, what does this mean for the Monte Carlo?

The wording of this article seems confusing. I would imagine that if Chevy is getting two kappa based vehicles, one being Nomad, the other one would be a coupe version of the Nomad wagon. Maybe sort of a baby-Vette.... call it Corvair or Monza.

Originally posted by Sixer-Bird

The wording of this article seems confusing. I would imagine that if Chevy is getting two kappa based vehicles, one being Nomad, the other one would be a coupe version of the Nomad wagon.

How bout Bel-Air? Wouldnt that be something? :D

No but seriously, if this info is true, and that this Kappa car isnt the Camaro, wont Chevy be doing what GM said they didnt want to do? Cars from the same company in a similar segment fighting each other? If GM goes with this logic, then there goes one excuse out the window as to why the Firebird couldnt return with the Camaro.

OK, I've been doing some snooping around....

Let's just say that rumors of the Nomad's approval are GREATLY exagerrated.

Originally posted by Jackass
Can Kappa hold a v6 or v8?

Why not.

I view the kappa and zeta architecture's as being sort of a jigsaw puzzle. Take front end of A and weld to B and you get C.

They could take the front end off an architecture that has the capability of holding a v6 or v8 and mate it to a architecture that doesn't.

The question isn't really why not but rather...again...why? Stretch Kappa and make it beefier to accomodate a V8 and basically you have Zeta, or a Zeta-like car....now, why engineer Kappa to have the ability to do this when Zeta is in development? Not to mention the extra crash testing on your FrankenKappa and blah blah blah...talk about throwing money away.

I just wish people understood that not everything needs big cubes and not everyone wants a 6 or 8 in their car...especially a platform that is supposed to be relatively compact, lightweight, cheap and fun-to-drive.

Any chance the author of this article is confussed? The description of the Buick, the "Chevy coupe" and the Cadillac coupe have also been also been suggested on the Zeta architecture in previous posts. Maybe the rumors are starting to run together.

i think the "chevy coupe" could have something to do with the "speedster" that was mentioned in a thread earlier (maybe by 30anniv6spd, can't remember the exact username)
just a thought:)

Kappa is a spaceframe just like what fiero/saturn/c5 have been built on. One of the main advantages besides low cost is its ability to be easily widened or lengthened. A fiero is almost the same EXACT size as kappa and it has no problem handling the torque of a v8 since its an extremely rigid structure.

One look at the Saturn Curve should tell you what is possible on this platform. Also, I could see a rwd sunfire replacement built on kappa. Kappa will bring us many low volume niche models, but when will GM take the gloves off and give us a gotta have v6/v8 kappa model? With 500hp vettes in the future, there is plenty of room for it to be done. GM could make a heck of a competitor to the hot selling nissan z-if they wanted to.