next dodge charger

follow link:
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0404phr_dodge/

Looks like our good buddy Kris Horton has been hired by PHR to do all of their dream cars! LOL!!

Great job Kris!!

Wow..........those pics look good.

There's something there................

Yeah good job Kris,although the grill and rear window needs some attention.

It has way too many angles it needs some nice curves.

I'm tired of that "cross in the middle of the grill" look on current Dodges. And all of the square lines on the front end of those Charger pictures turn me off too. Really, I think Chrysler's styling has gone in the wrong direction since the Diamler takeover (or was it "merger of equals?) The new trucks, Durango, Magnum, I just don't like the looks of any of 'em.
But I always liked the Charger's fuel cap and the shape of the quarter panels and tail. It would be nice to see them build a car that used that car's lines all the way around and resist the temptation to add new elements to it, just adjust the proportions to fit a modern chassis. Or maybe skip the standard Charger altogether and go straight to a Hemi Daytona...with an Eaton supercharger option and a T56...

that looks very wrong.... especially the rear... it just looks like its about to snap in two right down the middle at any moment.

While he might not get the design cues right or please everyone, Kris surely has some artistic talent in drawing these cars!
Keep up the good work!

This one was kind of tough, on several levels.

First off, asking a die-hard Chevy guy to go and try to bring a MOPAR legend back to life is a stretch.

Second, I was given only the LX platform to work with as well as current Chrysler and Dodge styling cues.

Hehe, and third, I was trying to go anti-retro.

I like how it came out, though I'm sure people will be saying "it's all wrong." It's a tough call with a Dodge concept because the style is very set in its way. I was also hesitant to go too retro because of all of the anti-retro comments on the Camaro.


Well, can't please everyone. ;) I wish I would have thought to have watermarked a Bowties 4Ever or something in the paint. :D

Kris

That car is beautiful!! I'd definately buy one of those if they made it.

Very Nice!!

Maybe a little too edjy. I do like the angle on the headlights though. A front end shot would look truly mean! :cool:

I wish this concept had a C-pillar more in line with that car....
http://community.webshots.com/s/image9/1/74/42/117517442eYucYE_ph.jpg

Looks alright, I'm not a fan of the C-pillar though

over all, i like it a LOT, but there are a few areas that looked odd to me. the shot of the trunk/rear glass area.... dont know why, but it just didnt look right. maybe if the c pillars didnt come so far back, or if the glass came back farther. either way, it seems like it should be more flush. tail lights remind me of a subaru svx (:think: ) front end looks mean as hell, and other than the tail lights and the glass, i love it. score another for kris :thumb:

i can deffinintely see the 300c in it as well as that new chrystler super car, not too shabby:)

I personaly like the new look of the Dodges and Chrysler. They are a lot more agressive looking then they have been, and I like that for one. I think this car looks great. I already know someone at work that said that if Dodge came out with a Charger, he would buy it, or wait for the new Mustang.

Sorry guys, but i thought that thing was ugly. Especially in comparison to the '99 concept, which I have always thought was a 10 from the first time I saw it. This one is too angular, and disjointed for my tastes esp in the c pillar and cowl areas. Something about the propotions arn't quuite right. Nothing personal, I just don't find it attractive at all. It needs more curves.

BTW, will they retune the hemi so its a more "car biased" (ie more hp than tq)? Maybe 390hp, 380tq?

A lot better Kris, the only thing I can see that appears out of proprtion is the grill, seems a little too tall...Other than that it looks like an evoltution of a Charger to me...:thumb:

I like the body lines, good hints of the past, nice rounded angles, good stance, and you can definitely tell it's a Dodge..

They need to build a car like this, the Viper is out of range for the average buyer, and they have no other RWD V8 sports car...which a lot of Mopar fans are dying for...look at the V8 Dodge truck sales!..

Thats got the C6ish style rear fender line ending in the middle of the door. And a Cadillac Cien style hood. Its a Cadillettodge (pronounced: Kad-ill-a-odge) Charger :) Very nice :thumb: great job!

90rocz,

Thanks. I think Dodge will do will with the new Magnum, but stylistically, it's still a wagon. I took the current lineup (pre-2005) into consideration before I started the Charger and realized that they really didn't have a pony/sports car besides the SRT-4 for under 30K. I'm not saying they needed one, but I figured that it is quite possible that GM will not step up to bat in the pony car game again any time soon, (at least not with a Camaro the way it sounds right now,) so why not Dodge? I think it would be smart for Dodge to market a new, reasonably priced RWD V8 car. I'm not sure on the Magnum's pricing, but they could certainly do well by selling a hi-performance car for under 30K.

Ford is offering a RWD, V8 with over 300hp for around $25K. That's a tough act to follow and will certainly appeal to the younger crowd looking for some budget muscle.

Now take a look at Dodge's line. Picture a sporty 2-door Charger (not saying a 4-door is a bad idea, I just like coupes) sitting in a lot next to a new Mustang GT. The Mustang comes with the 4.6L (guessing,) 18" wheels, and all the bells and whistles. Next to it, the Charger has the 18" wheels, the nice look, and the kicker: a Hemi, all for about the same price as the Mustang. I think that Dodge would draw in close to half (if not more) of the buyers who would have sprung for the Mustang.

I have heard a lot of (younger) die-hard Chevy folks saying "If Chevy doesn't give us something worthwhile soon, I'm buying a new Mustang. It seems like a lot of people are just settling for a new Mustang because it is something new and attractive, not to mention a good deal.

While the Magnum is sporty, someone looking for a sporty car will not be attracted to it over a Mustang. Someone looking for practical but sporty, would lean more towards the Magnum.

I guess all this rambling leads to one point: Dodge should make the Charger. If and when (because it's almost inevitable) they do build it, it might be the final piece of the puzzle that will get Chevy to wake up and kick some butt.

Sorry for the endless nonsense, it's late...

Kris

I really wish that the LX platform was more accomodating to the proportions of the '99 concept car. I poked my head in the wheelhouses of a couple Magnums, and it's amazing how much room its double-wishbone front suspension takes up (they need to take a look at an older Honda Prelude to get an idea of how to cram a couple control arms, a strut, and a halfshaft into a very compact package). And of course the Hemi, as it comes out of the truck, is very tall and drives the height of the cowl (this appears to be the fault of the intake manifold).

Regardless, '06 should be an interesting year in the 'biz.

I like it (id drive one)... but I dont think that grill works on the car. If the rest of the car has cues of the old charger, the grill should too. the cross looks out of place IMO.

I like the 1999 Charger concept (http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0404phr_dodge_02_z.jpg) soooo much better. The new concept looks alright, just nowhere near as smooth looking as th old concept.

If it comes with a T-56 and the purported 6.1 Hemi, I will be all over it!

me likey:D

I like the 1999 Charger concept soooo much better. The new concept looks alright, just nowhere near as smooth looking as th old concept.
You know that's a 4-door, right? like a photoshopped Intrepid...

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I just got the magazine the other day and that was the first thing I noticed. :) While there are a couple of minor things I may change, overall I think it's great. :thumb: One thing I couldn't help but notice is that the coupe almost looks mid-engine from the side. Regardless, great work as usual! :bow:

looks like a 68 charger roof on a corvette body:rolleyes: It has no lines to it as said, and you would think that they could have changed the front of the car, it looks like a stratus with a billet grill and better headlights. The rear valance could be done better. I dont like the way dodge is heading with there styleing. The new, magnum looks like a spaceship, the hemi durango looks like a mess. I do like the looks of the SRT-10 even though it is way overpriced.

It could be done better, he should have taken cues from all years of the chargers and not put the stratus grill on there even though it wouldnt be as aero dynamic.

Originally posted by LT-14me
looks like a 68 charger roof on a corvette body:rolleyes: It has no lines to it as said, and you would think that they could have changed the front of the car, it looks like a stratus with a billet grill and better headlights. The rear valance could be done better. I dont like the way dodge is heading with there styleing. The new, magnum looks like a spaceship, the hemi durango looks like a mess. I do like the looks of the SRT-10 even though it is way overpriced.

It could be done better, he should have taken cues from all years of the chargers and not put the stratus grill on there even though it wouldnt be as aero dynamic. I'm not sure if you talking about the '99 concept or what but this concept(what this thread is sbout) was not done by dodge.

I kinda altered it to look like a Camaro,still working on it though http://community.webshots.com/photo/20197065/118270091UggaoY

Originally posted by 90rocz
You know that's a 4-door, right? like a photoshopped Intrepid...
I like Intrepids :p

Originally posted by Indelibility
I like Intrepids :p

I don't. Cops around here drive them dressed in street clothes and pull unsuspecting people over. I've never been pulled over by one of them though. :) Just the other day I saw another car pulled over by an unmarked Lincoln Mk VIII. This must stop. Next thing you know, you're being pulled over by a VW Beetle....

Sorry I got off topic...

Kris

Interesting artwork Kris. Not my cup of tea stylewise, but I do recognize you have alot of talent, and respect that.

To clear up the rumor about the Dodge Charger, it is in fact going to be in production by the end of next calender year. It is scheduled to be phased in on the LX assembly line next year, and is part of the reason why Dodge has the Magnum station wagon. Daimler Chrysler is taking their time revving up the assembly line to ensure nothing goes wrong. The LX is the most important car Chrysler has introduced in years, and almost literally, the Chrysler arm's future is dependent on as close to a perfect & troublefree launch as possible. That's why AWD isn't available till later on this year.

The Charger won't be what people are expecting. It will in fact be a sedan. The interior is supposed to be a carryover from the Magnum, but with different bodywork.

At present, it seems a coupe will be added the following year to the assembly line.

BTW, Seems NASCAR is also aware that Dodge is bringing out a new car for 2005:

More on the Dodge 2005 Model: John Fernandez, Dodge's vice president of motorsports, says DaimlerChrysler will run the Intrepid in the Cup division next year, but look for a new model, matching the company's production schedule, for 2005. “There are a few new templates coming,” Fernandez says. “But because of the common templates, there won't be a huge difference.” Fernandez says NASCAR's greatest concerns are maintaining the safety standards of the car and the equality among the four car makes. With 18 of the 32 templates being common, the nose, the tail and the side windows are the areas in which cars can retain identity.(Sporting News)(8-25-2003)


Bye-Bye Intrepid? Hello Charger? Daytona?: The Winston Cup Scene is reporting that the Dodge Intrpid will stop being made in 2004. While not announced, Dodge is expected to cease production of the Intrepid by the end of 2004. Dodge is supposedly looking at bring the Dodge Charger or Dodge Daytona back in 2005. Wintson Cup director John Darby said NASCAR has been informed by Dodge that the Intrepid would be replaced. The submission for a new car will be July 1, 2004 but the car doesn't hvae to be completed by then. The Intrpid has won 15 Cup races since making it debut in 2001.(Winston Cup Scene - need sub to read online)(8-14-2003)

guionM,
Thanks, it was tough to try and get a look that everyone would like, just as with the Camaro, not everyone was going to like it.

There are some pics of the progress of the car and some studio-style renderings online now if you want to check them out.

Just follow the link and go to the bottom of the page.

Kris