crzhrs
02-12-2004, 09:06 PM
Yeah, What the title said.:D
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Which gears work best behind a M6?crzhrs 02-12-2004, 09:06 PM Yeah, What the title said.:D my94blackz 02-13-2004, 12:08 AM Its a preference thing. I myself like the 4.56's But ereone is diff. im sure you will hear plenty of 4.10 reponses and a few 3.73's. chpmnsws6 02-13-2004, 03:11 AM after driving em with stock, 3.73's, and 4.10's i like the 3.73's the most. 1st gear with 4.10's goes by way to fast IDOXLR8 02-13-2004, 07:45 AM It all honesty depends on your setup and where you plan on shifting the car. rskrause 02-13-2004, 07:57 AM Originally posted by IDOXLR8 It all honesty depends on your setup and where you plan on shifting the car. Exactly. Depends on where your motor makes power. 3.42's were perfect for me with either the M6 or the TH400 because I have optimized my setup for drag racing. My trap speeds in the low 140's put the car just past peak power in 4th (M6) or 3rd (TH400), which is ideal for drag racing. OTOH, if you have a high revving NA setup you may need 4.10's or an even higher gear. The nice thing with the M6 is that with the 0.50:1 top gear, you can get away with a really short rear gear and still maintain a reasonable cruise and top end capability. Rich Krause GREGG 97Z 02-13-2004, 09:22 AM I got 4:10's when I had bolt on's only and now with the cam and they have worked great for me so far, feels like the perfect gearing to me. When you start making bigger power like with big heads/cam setups 3:73's often work better for some people. When you start making big power like Rich said 3:42's may be the better choice for you. IDOXLR8 02-13-2004, 10:37 AM Originally posted by rskrause Exactly. Depends on where your motor makes power. 3.42's were perfect for me with either the M6 or the TH400 because I have optimized my setup for drag racing. My trap speeds in the low 140's put the car just past peak power in 4th (M6) or 3rd (TH400), which is ideal for drag racing. OTOH, if you have a high revving NA setup you may need 4.10's or an even higher gear. The nice thing with the M6 is that with the 0.50:1 top gear, you can get away with a really short rear gear and still maintain a reasonable cruise and top end capability. Rich Krause :bow: 140 mph Rich if you don't mind me asking. Where did you shift your car with the M6. Also how did you launch the car. Thanks in advance. rskrause 02-13-2004, 12:01 PM Originally posted by IDOXLR8 :bow: 140 mph Rich if you don't mind me asking. Where did you shift your car with the M6. Also how did you launch the car. Thanks in advance. With ET streets (and a 12-bolt) I was launching at ~4,000rpm. Just a touch of clutch slip until the tires "bit" and then foot to the floor. 60' times were in the low 1.5's with a "road race" type suspension. So don't believe what you read about how hard it is to launch an M6. It takes some time to get it down to a science though! My setup was low rev, I shifted at 6,000rpm. Rich IDOXLR8 02-13-2004, 12:43 PM Originally posted by rskrause With ET streets (and a 12-bolt) I was launching at ~4,000rpm. Just a touch of clutch slip until the tires "bit" and then foot to the floor. 60' times were in the low 1.5's with a "road race" type suspension. So don't believe what you read about how hard it is to launch an M6. It takes some time to get it down to a science though! My setup was low rev, I shifted at 6,000rpm. Rich Thanks I appreciate the advice. My setup is pretty similar. My car's hp peaked around 6100 rpm. I am going to launch at 3500 rpm and go up from there. Do you think I should go with a 27 or 28 in slick? I have a 3.50 gear in my 9-in. EDS Z28 02-14-2004, 09:49 AM For the street, I don't see how you can beat the 3.73's. They make 6th gear more usable (and 5th a little less usable). I can even go up hills in 6th now, whereas before I could not. My car pulls harder than ever now, A great gear IMO. As far as drag racing, most guys have the 4.10's or higher. It all has to do with your targeted trap speed and the size tires you have. A 28" diameter tire would be a good idea with taller gears. A larger diameter tire will give you more traction, resulting in a quicker elapsed time. The problem is fitting the big tires on your car. There are formulas to determine your needs. You should study those formulas, they make a lot of sense. rskrause 02-14-2004, 09:59 AM Originally posted by IDOXLR8 Thanks I appreciate the advice. My setup is pretty similar. My car's hp peaked around 6100 rpm. I am going to launch at 3500 rpm and go up from there. Do you think I should go with a 27 or 28 in slick? I have a 3.50 gear in my 9-in. The way to figure it is based on knowing the amount of hp you are making. This allows trap speed to be estimated, which in turn will allow you to determine what tire and gear combo puts you a couple of hundred rpm over peak hp through the traps. Unless you are making huge hp, a 28" might be too big for your setup. 6,500rpm with a 28" tire and a 3.50 rear is over 150mph. And that isn't accounting for tire expansion which makes the speed even higher. Rich Krause IDOXLR8 02-16-2004, 09:14 AM Originally posted by rskrause The way to figure it is based on knowing the amount of hp you are making. This allows trap speed to be estimated, which in turn will allow you to determine what tire and gear combo puts you a couple of hundred rpm over peak hp through the traps. Unless you are making huge hp, a 28" might be too big for your setup. 6,500rpm with a 28" tire and a 3.50 rear is over 150mph. And that isn't accounting for tire expansion which makes the speed even higher. Rich Krause My car should be making close to 750 rwhp. So how tall of a tire do you think I should go with? rskrause 02-16-2004, 11:46 AM Originally posted by IDOXLR8 My car should be making close to 750 rwhp. So how tall of a tire do you think I should go with? At what rpm? And what gear do you currently have, and do you plan to change it? You should be trapping at 135mph+ with that much hp. Rich Krause IDOXLR8 02-16-2004, 01:18 PM Originally posted by rskrause At what rpm? And what gear do you currently have, and do you plan to change it? You should be trapping at 135mph+ with that much hp. Rich Krause I currently have a 3.50 gear. It hp is peaked at 6100 rpm. I currently have no plans in changing the gear out. My car should weigh 3600lbs with me in it. I appreciate the help. rskrause 02-16-2004, 01:49 PM Originally posted by IDOXLR8 I currently have a 3.50 gear. It hp is peaked at 6100 rpm. I currently have no plans in changing the gear out. My car should weigh 3600lbs with me in it. I appreciate the help. If you plan to stick with 3.50:1 a 28" v. a 27" is a tossup. 27" has a bit less grip, but will put you in just the right rev range (6,200rpm = 142mph). A 28" is a little too tall (6,000rpm = 142mph) but will launc a bit harder. I'd go witht he 28". Also a better selection of tires in this size. Rich Krause IDOXLR8 02-16-2004, 02:02 PM Originally posted by rskrause If you plan to stick with 3.50:1 a 28" v. a 27" is a tossup. 27" has a bit less grip, but will put you in just the right rev range (6,200rpm = 142mph). A 28" is a little too tall (6,000rpm = 142mph) but will launc a bit harder. I'd go witht he 28". Also a better selection of tires in this size. Rich Krause Thanks for the help. :) ohhiitznik 02-16-2004, 08:30 PM Hey Idoxrl8 i live in rochester hills too. where do you live, im auburn n crooks. Id like to see your car run. IDOXLR8 02-17-2004, 08:10 AM Originally posted by ohhiitznik Hey Idoxrl8 i live in rochester hills too. where do you live, im auburn n crooks. Id like to see your car run. I live off M59 and Dequindre. :) limige 02-17-2004, 07:52 PM i like the 4:10's on the street. the only down side is it's hard to push the car over 140 cruising. rpm's get too high for extended periods..... so as long as you keep your speed near the speed limits they don't affect gas mileage or high cruising. i think i turn around 2200rpms doing 80. so just say no to the mustang on the expressway cuz you'll run out of power at high speeds, but 0-100mph pulls hard! btw i got 28 mpg with 4:10's on the expressway | ||