Grand National Concept (Monaro Based)

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=28731
That would be pretty cool, and it would have to be turbo:p

(Just makin sure u guys know that its a photochopped pic with no affiliation with GM. Its from here (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3017) ):)

It's odd... when I first looked at it, I liked it a lot, and I still do... but if I stare at it, the front end looks liek a Koala Bear to me... :confused: :think:

Originally posted by Darth Xed
It's odd... when I first looked at it, I liked it a lot, and I still do... but if I stare at it, the front end looks liek a Koala Bear to me... :confused: :think:
Fixing the smiling air dam and a different color would probably help:thumb:

I think it looks pretty good, but I don't know if I'd call it a GN. :think:

It's not black.

Buick really needs to get rid of that big ugly oval grill. Does anyone like that?

i hat ebuicks grill but that the way gm is going hence the chevy bar that no one likes

Just so you know, Buick views the Grand National like a vampire views garlic.

Buick looked at the Grand National as a car that wasn't in line with what Buick was or is. With the emphasis now returning to GM's initial philosophy that each division has a specific market segment, Buick is going to be even more adverse to having a Grand National-like pavement schorcher than it was in the late 80s and throughout the 90s.

That car looks very Buick-like, but think Lexus, and you have the actual direction Buick is going. :)




Trivia time:
Buick was set to get a version of the Holden Commodore in the late 90s.:eek:

I'll post the story on another thread. :)

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223652

Looks nice.....but if I were to hope for another Holden import, I really wouldnt want it to be a Buick, ya know?

Originally posted by Darth Xed
It's odd... when I first looked at it, I liked it a lot, and I still do... but if I stare at it, the front end looks liek a Koala Bear to me... :confused: :think:

:D

I agree. I like everything but the 'face.'

Jeff
:)

Originally posted by ImportedRoomate
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=28731
That would be pretty cool, and it would have to be turbo:p The grill opening should be smaller.

Right now, it looks like Snoopy. :D

Originally posted by jg95z28
The grill opening should be smaller.

Right now, it looks like Snoopy. :D

KOALA BEAR (http://www.anolis.de/cards/koala-card.jpg) , dammit!!!! ;) :lol: ;)

I still like it though! :cool:

I like the grill shape, but that one needs to go on a diet, slim it down a couple of inches and shrink the emblem just a "tad" and it'd be perfect..
Instead of GN maybe the 2-door could be a version of the "GS"(Gran Sport) line, like the old "GSX". I too think they are aiming more at Lexus, they used to have the motto, "Fast with Class" which is still where they'd go with a car like that...hopefull RWD and comparable with a GS300..

What I really hate about GM is that they just fling all their names with heritage around. HOW does that car resemble a Grand National? Outside the fact that it has 2 doors and has a Buick badge on it? Decent car, but sorry, it's not a Grand National.

Just call the damn thing a Buick Monaro. After all, that's all it is.

Unless its a boosted 6 cylinder that rivals the Vettes power, don't bother. Oh and not all turbo regals were black, and actually the GN was the slowest of the turbo regals because they were the heaviest. (steel wheels as compared to regular TR's alluminum wheels)

That is freaking beautiful! I don't care what anyone else says, major props for the guy who made that! :thumb:

Fore some reason, I really like that concept. It has a really bold look to it!

Originally posted by Richard Cabeza
What I really hate about GM is that they just fling all their names with heritage around. HOW does that car resemble a Grand National? Outside the fact that it has 2 doors and has a Buick badge on it? Decent car, but sorry, it's not a Grand National.

Just call the damn thing a Buick Monaro. After all, that's all it is.
Took the letters right out of my keyboard.
I feel the same way.

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Originally posted by Richard Cabeza
What I really hate about GM is that they just fling all their names with heritage around. HOW does that car resemble a Grand National? Outside the fact that it has 2 doors and has a Buick badge on it? Decent car, but sorry, it's not a Grand National.

Just call the damn thing a Buick Monaro. After all, that's all it is.
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I agree too. It seems like they base everything off of one model they have already, throw some badges on it and name it after a classic!! I can here GM now, "Here's the new GN it has the cavalier's frame and body....we've given the engine an extra 10 hp and some cool badges on the body that say GN. Now go buy it because we've taken away all our other muscle in or stable and we know we can trick you into buying our crap......um i mean retro muscle!!"

Blow me!!! GM needs to get some creative people in there, most of the stuff now is crap!!!

Originally posted by bigde4u
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Originally posted by Richard Cabeza
What I really hate about GM is that they just fling all their names with heritage around. HOW does that car resemble a Grand National? Outside the fact that it has 2 doors and has a Buick badge on it? Decent car, but sorry, it's not a Grand National.

Just call the damn thing a Buick Monaro. After all, that's all it is.
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I agree too. It seems like they base everything off of one model they have already, throw some badges on it and name it after a classic!! I can here GM now, "Here's the new GN it has the cavalier's frame and body....we've given the engine an extra 10 hp and some cool badges on the body that say GN. Now go buy it because we've taken away all our other muscle in or stable and we know we can trick you into buying our crap......um i mean retro muscle!!"

Blow me!!! GM needs to get some creative people in there, most of the stuff now is crap!!!

Beaten to death here like the 1millionth time, but if your comment of '"Here's the new GN it has the cavalier's frame and body..." has anything to do with what the new GTO comes on, then it is all wrong. No cavalier frame or body. It doesn't even look like a Cav in real life. Go check one out yourself at the dealer's!!!! If you still think it looks like a CAV (not in pics), maybe you need glasses..

And to further nitpick...a Koala isn't a bear! Its a marsupial :D

I'm not one to like retro at all, but I just can't imagine a Grand National that slick and swoopy. It's almost part of its character to have the aerodynamics of brick, as if to say "who cares about aerodynamics when you have this much power!"

Originally posted by gab
Beaten to death here like the 1millionth time, but if your comment of '"Here's the new GN it has the cavalier's frame and body..." has anything to do with what the new GTO comes on, then it is all wrong. No cavalier frame or body. It doesn't even look like a Cav in real life. Go check one out yourself at the dealer's!!!! If you still think it looks like a CAV (not in pics), maybe you need glasses..

I didn't say the GTO looks like a cavalier. I said they base these "new classics" after a model they already have then throw some badges on it and name it after a classic!!

The GTO might not look like a cavalier but take a look at a 2001 pontiac grand prix gt, it does look a hell of a lot like it!! So go buy the over priced grand prix gt with GTO badges but me i say if it's named after a classic it shouldn't look like a cavalier or grand prix!!

Beat to death.....maybe, but as long as they can continue to do this and everyone says it's great because GM says it is, we'll just keep getting the same recycled stuff!!!

Originally posted by bigde4u
I didn't say the GTO looks like a cavalier. I said they base these "new classics" after a model they already have then throw some badges on it and name it after a classic!!

The GTO might not look like a cavalier but take a look at a 2001 pontiac grand prix gt, it does look a hell of a lot like it!! So go buy the over priced grand prix gt with GTO badges but me i say if it's named after a classic it shouldn't look like a cavalier or grand prix!!

Beat to death.....maybe, but as long as they can continue to do this and everyone says it's great because GM says it is, we'll just keep getting the same recycled stuff!!!

look, how many times does it have to be posted? THE ORIGINAL GTO LOOKED LIKE ANOTHER PONTIAC, THE TEMPEST. to prove this let me get some pics.

1965 Tempest (http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/53/72/0f_0.JPG)

1966 GTO (http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/50/78/1d_0.JPG)

sorry i couldnt find a 65 GTO to go with the 65 Tempest. the fact of the matter remains, the GTO was based off the Tempest and was an appearence package of sorts for the Tempest. sure by 1970 it had its own shape. but the ORIGINAL GTO was a rebadged Tempest (think Manaro) with hood scoops and a better motor.(there could be more differences but thats the jist of it.)

Originally posted by bigde4u
I didn't say the GTO looks like a cavalier. I said they base these "new classics" after a model they already have then throw some badges on it and name it after a classic!!

The GTO might not look like a cavalier but take a look at a 2001 pontiac grand prix gt, it does look a hell of a lot like it!! So go buy the over priced grand prix gt with GTO badges but me i say if it's named after a classic it shouldn't look like a cavalier or grand prix!!

Beat to death.....maybe, but as long as they can continue to do this and everyone says it's great because GM says it is, we'll just keep getting the same recycled stuff!!!

Here's what you said, "I can here GM now, "Here's the new GN it has the cavalier's frame and body....". Granted that your just voicing your opinion, and if GM did build a GN after the CAV, then I would agree with you. However, this thread was about a Monaro/GTO body with the Buick frontend grafted to it, and your comment about the "new GN" is obvious to me to mean the Monaro/GTO...That's where they are both different animals. If you had intended to say it looks like a GP, I would have agreed with you only from the standpoint of the frontend. You also did say, "So go buy the over priced grand prix gt with GTO badges but me i say if it's named after a classic it shouldn't look like a cavalier or grand prix!!" The GTO did look like another car...

Would I go and buy a OVERPRICED GP GT with a GTO badge??? Absolutely NO WAY!!!! However, it is not the case here. You know it and everybody else here know it, that the GP and GTO are both different animals. One's a cat the other's a lion. They may have similar exterior looks but they are both completely different animals. Looks alone does not make 2 cars "the same". This new GTO is not an overpriced GP since one is FWD and the other a RWD. One comes with a six, the other a V8. One has okay interior, the other apparently has a u-beauty interior. If the GN is based on the GP and turbocharged, maybe your displeasure may be a valid point...but this is not the case here when a suggestion of a GN name being based on a car configuration that could be a GN. Imagine the Monaro CV6 supercharged or turbocharged being adopted by Buick. I can certainly see GN written all over it...

I just typed up a very detailed response for this and lost it when i went to post it!!!!:cry: :(

So there's no way i'm going through that again, I'll just say we'll agree to disagree!:D

You guys make valid points (but so did i in my lost response:D )

My basic point is i want different, not similar but kind of different!!

Man i'm pissed i lost all of my response!!!!