127,000 C5's RECALLED?!?

stars1010
02-11-2004, 01:39 AM
I’m surprised no one saw this. My Mustang buddy found it over at corvetteforum.com. He said it was on CNN today too.



GM to recall about 127,000 Chevrolet Corvettes (GM) By Ciara Linnane
mrtimrostan: NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- General Motors (GM) said it will recall about 127,000 Chevrolet Corvettes to correct a fault with the steering column. The company said it has had no confirmed occurences of the fault, in which the electronic column fails to unlock when the engine is started, although the vehicle can still be driven. The affected vehicles are 1997 to 2000 model-year Corvettes with automatic transmissions sold in the U.S., Canada and Mexico, 1997 to 2004 model-year Corvettes with automatic transmissions in Europe and export countries, and 1997 to 2004 model-year Corvettes with manual transmissiions in North American, European and export countries. GM shares were last up 10 cents at $49.21.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=750348

30thZ286speed
02-11-2004, 01:58 AM
I saw that on the 11:00 news earlier. I didn't catch the whole story, thanks for posting. The recall doesn't sound too bad.

I wish they would have a recall on Opi-Spark units.

ProudPony
02-11-2004, 07:10 AM
GM has had a terrible last 3 days...

Here's A LINK (http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/gm11_20040211.htm) to the news release about the Vette that Stars1010 reported on. 127,000 cars worldwide.

There's THIS ONE (http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/irep10_20040210.htm) for 636,000 SUVs with potentially faulty windshield wiper systems. Some wrecks reported, but no fatalities.

And worst of all, THIS ONE (http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/gm7_20040207.htm) for 1.8-MILLION cars and trucks... the same ol' ignition problems. Fires in garages top the worst of that scenario I beleive.

That's over 2.5 MILLION cars total in 3 days! :shock:

I personally am not offended or "outraged" at these recalls, but it is bizzarre how they all hit here within 3 days or so. I guess the ignition switch thing is the worst of them for me, as it can take not only your car, but your home and/or life under the right circumstances. And it seems like this same problem just keeps on coming up over and over... this must be like 4 or 5 times I've seen this as a cause for large recalls.
What gives?!?! :confused:

Darth Xed
02-11-2004, 07:18 AM
Column Lock has been an issue on C5 for quite a long time... to be honest, it's about time GM stepped up and recalled it...

Donutboy97
02-11-2004, 12:17 PM
do you suppose this is a way for GM to start cleaning up their immage on build quality by basicaly saying, "yeah, we made mistakes, we all make mistakes, but WE are going to fix the mistakes"?

Z28Wilson
02-11-2004, 01:18 PM
The import boys are having a great laugh about this one. :mad:

If you ever want a real laugh, check out the Autos Talk forum at detnews.com. These people and their "Big Three suck, buy Japanese" views range from quite sad to almost psychotic. :rolleyes:

Ken S
02-11-2004, 02:33 PM
Yea, I remember sporatically hearing about it waayy back.. I assumed they already fixed it back then! Notice they say they have no confirmed reports..


Yea, the autotalks at detnews is almost worthless..


But these recalls, even though they are for the slightly older cars, don't help GM"s image.



Originally posted by Darth Xed
Column Lock has been an issue on C5 for quite a long time... to be honest, it's about time GM stepped up and recalled it...

90rocz
02-11-2004, 03:53 PM
Yeah. the Import people were'nt laughing so much when Nissan ignitions and alternators were burining cars down to the ground, but noone remembers stuff like that...
I'm proud of GM for stepping up and being responsible enough to fix a problem or suspected problem, even in the face of sarcasms..

What I wonder is, how much of these problems are due to "Sub letting" out to cheap parts companies or "Sub-Assemblers"...???

guionM
02-11-2004, 05:25 PM
Ford had the same ignition switch recall about 10 years ago. I remember it because my 1st Thunderbird SC was part of it.
:o

quick
02-11-2004, 05:35 PM
The only problem with GM is they can't snuff the publicity. Didn't you know about this BMW M3 recall? They kept if very quiet, and it's a lot more serious than a steering column lock. GM just doesn't have good media relations people.

http://yoy.com/auto/m3_failintro.shtml

Eric Bryant
02-12-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by FlyBono24
That would suck if it locks up on the freeway. :(

Or on the racetrack, like had been reported a long time ago.

I find it interesting that GM knew of this problem over two years ago and implimented a fix on the US auto cars (the column lock isn't required on an auto if the shifter is locked in Park without an override available through the passenger's compartment) but yet neglected to develop a fix for manual cars or Euro-spec autos. Not only is it a bit disappointing to me, but it puts GM in such a bad legal position had someone gotten hurt. Ford's pretty stupid about some things, but there's no way they would have allowed such an obviously inconsistant response to a problem. Also note that they did away completely with the column lock on the GMT360 platform, which is possibly more evidence that they've known this to be a problem for a while.

I wonder if the wiper problem on the SUVs is the same that's affected so many other of GM's trucks. It took them 7 years to recall the wiper motor on my truck (after I'd already fixed it on my own coin, of course) - nice to see that they're speeding things up a bit.

I still haven't gotten an answer on who supplied the defective ignition switches, but I highly suspect it was the same vendor who also caused Ford and Honda to recall vehicles for similar problems.

90rocz
02-13-2004, 12:59 AM
Ford's pretty stupid about some things, but there's no way they would have allowed such an obviously inconsistant response to a problem.
No, if it was Ford, they'd blame the tire manufacturer..:lol:

You just gotta love "Out-Sourcing", spend $10 to save 10 cents...:lol: :usa:

guess who
02-14-2004, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by 90rocz
No, if it was Ford, they'd blame the tire manufacturer..:lol:

You just gotta love "Out-Sourcing", spend $10 to save 10 cents...:lol: :usa:


Seems like some of y'all dont realize how serious steering column saftey defects are. GM will get a nice big fat fine for this. That you can count on. I know for a fact Ford is very serious about these types of issues (I am not in anyway saying GM does not take them seriously).. It is surprising to me that they waited so long....:confused:

90rocz
02-14-2004, 12:59 AM
Seems like some of y'all dont realize how serious steering column saftey defects are. GM will get a nice big fat fine for this. That you can count on. I know for a fact Ford is very serious about these types of issues (I am not in anyway saying GM does not take them seriously).. It is surprising to me that they waited so long....
I realize, but as any manufacturer where $$ is involved, no-one is going to jump up and say, Oops we messed up, here's your money, free parts & labor...even to recall on such a broad scale shows they care about accidents..

BTW, my cousins Jeep Liberty steeing column locked up on him 2 weeks after he recieved his 2002 model, seems someone forgot to tighten a fitting, the fluid leaked out and destroyed the whole column, Jeep, under waranty replaced everything free of charge..But told him there's NOT a LOT of recalls on this type of thing b/c that's part of a Dealers job, to verify everythings right(within reason) on the vehicle before delivery.
My point is, it's sad we outsource work to the lowest bidder so much lately, then b!tch about recalls...:confused: :shame:

Eric Bryant
02-14-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by 90rocz
I realize, but as any manufacturer where $$ is involved, no-one is going to jump up and say, Oops we messed up, here's your money, free parts & labor...

Honda found that some customers were experiencing transmission failure outside of the normal warranty period, and responded by extending the tranny warranty out to 100,000 miles. I'd say they did exactly what you claimed no one does.

The fact that GM addressed the problem on the '01-up cars shows that they knew they had a problem a while back, and still sat on their hands for 3-4 years.

90rocz
02-15-2004, 04:20 AM
Those Honda Automatic transmission failures go back to the mid '80's, when did they begin the 100,000 mile waranties??:)
(I owned an '86 Accord, dead tranny..:( )
And I used to see them everywhere in trading Posts etc, "runs good, bad trans"..

And what I meant was, a company will analyze the problem, identify trends, make an assessment of costs, and public hazzards; then make a plan of action for correction, run it by all the board member etc...this can take more time in LARGER corperations, where a LOT of Money is involved, depends on internal bylaws etc..
And the steering column deal isn't as easy as "extending a waranty"..:D