Push Button Start

neonblack
02-01-2004, 05:56 PM
I was curious to know where I could purchase a push button starter switch kit. Does anyone here have one installed? If so, where could I find one?

Thanks.

Capn Pete
02-01-2004, 10:04 PM
Very cool idea!:thumb: I'm curious to hear some ideas as well!;)

anasazi
02-01-2004, 10:57 PM
the punks down the street just approved as well :)

bombd84
02-02-2004, 11:56 AM
Yeah I have always wanted to also. I think that autozone/pepboys has some of them, they are kind of general application though. My friend has one on their SCCA vette and it gives it much more of a race car feeling.

ibanez6rg
02-02-2004, 12:24 PM
Haven't guys been using the ones off the S2000s?

BumpaD_Z28
02-02-2004, 02:45 PM
http://members.cox.net/pitre/s2000sw.htm

lifbcracker
02-02-2004, 05:51 PM
do you still need to use a key after that? or is all you do is push the button? - also does this work on lt1 f-bodys, im pretty sure the ignition is the same right?

unvc92camarors
02-02-2004, 07:25 PM
i wouldnt feel safe if you still didnt need a key after that
just seems like all the work is done for the guy who wants your car
but, i am interested as well, seems like a pretty cool idea:)

lifbcracker
02-02-2004, 07:28 PM
I read up on it, you still must use your key for it to work. But im still unsure if the lt1 guys can use it

unvc92camarors
02-02-2004, 07:32 PM
how do you still use the key? do you place it in the ignition still or what?
i wouldnt see why lt1 guys couldnt use it, i'm pretty sure the ignition stayed the same all 4th gen because i havent read otherwise but...i'm just speculating

lifbcracker
02-02-2004, 07:56 PM
here it works like this. You tap into the 12v+ batt cord, then into the ingition wire. You put a relay on both and then attach the wires from that to the switch, so basically nothing really changes except the fact you dont have to turn the key, which wouldnt start the car anyway cause you cut the wire to the ignition lock. So instead of turning the key all the way down like you would to start, you just push the button and bamm, revvvv revvvvvv

Capn Pete
02-02-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by lifbcracker
here it works like this. You tap into the 12v+ batt cord, then into the ingition wire. You put a relay on both and then attach the wires from that to the switch, so basically nothing really changes except the fact you dont have to turn the key, which wouldnt start the car anyway cause you cut the wire to the ignition lock. So instead of turning the key all the way down like you would to start, you just push the button and bamm, revvvv revvvvvv
Somehow you made that sound like you don't have to use the key AT ALL:think:.............but I (hope) think you were trying to say that instead of turning the key all the way to "start", you just turn the key to "on", then press the start button?:confused: That would make sense, and also still make use of the key;).

lifbcracker
02-02-2004, 08:08 PM
sorry, thats exactly what I ment, you still use the key but turn it just to "on" instead of "start"

GoFast908Z
02-02-2004, 08:25 PM
how much does the start button cost?

unvc92camarors
02-02-2004, 08:34 PM
alright, yea that's what i figured
turn it to 'on' position then hit it, makes sense:)
i'm sure you can get the button pretty cheap off a honda parts website

lifbcracker
02-02-2004, 08:53 PM
to ship it to your door is $39.50- including ups ground. Its 33.14 for the switch. Then you need sme relays and a couple extra parts for about 15 bucks probably then voila

kinyu
02-02-2004, 10:29 PM
Just seems like you're adding more work into starting your car.

mullettour
02-02-2004, 10:49 PM
Here ya go.

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=42009

$9.95 from summit or you can get summit's version (which is probably the same switch with a summit part#) for $7.88.

To install it run a wire to it that is hot when the ignition is on and then run a wire from the switch to the switch wire on the starter relay (the small terminal with the small wire). Then to start you turn on the key and push the button.

GoFast908Z
02-02-2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by mullettour
Here ya go.

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=42009

$9.95 from summit or you can get summit's version (which is probably the same switch with a summit part#) for $7.88.

To install it run a wire to it that is hot when the ignition is on and then run a wire from the switch to the switch wire on the starter relay (the small terminal with the small wire). Then to start you turn on the key and push the button.

Thats all well and good, for a drag car. But, I don't think that is the look most would go for. The Honda button has a nice color and style to it.

zirbe32
02-03-2004, 02:56 PM
I've installed an "Ignited" brand start button on my ride. Do a google search and I'm sure you can find numerous places that sell this particular unit. There are cheaper alternatives, such as the previously mentioned Honda start button. My particular button came with 5 different colored interchangeable lenses (clear, red, blue, green, yellow) that say "Engine Start" with a little Ignited logo. It is very simple to install. I followed the directions mentioned in BumpaD_Z28's post, with a slight modification, as the Ignited button requires 4 wires to be hooked up, while the honda button only requires 3. Another difference is that the whole button lights up, while I'm pretty sure the honda button only lights up the "Engine Start" word. The key still must be used (turned to the on position) to dissarm the vehicle anti theft system and steering wheel lock.
Also as a note, instead of completely cutting the yellow wire as shown in the directions, I only spliced into it so that I could retain the ability to start the car with the key as well (incase the button were to fail). I've had it installed since last summer with no problems. No drilling required, I used my cig. lighter hole.
Here's a pic:
http://www.calpoly.edu/~azafrin/images/Start%20Button%20Day.jpg
Hope this helps,
Andrew

HoustonZ
02-03-2004, 05:05 PM
What's the point? I mean, you will have to have the key in the ignition anyway...so why not just turn it? Maybe I'm not understanding the application here...?! I'd understand if it were a key card you kepy in your pocked, with a pushbutton ignition (like the Benz LS500), but what's the use in a button if you need the key anyway?

psychocabbage
02-03-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by HoustonZ
What's the point? I mean, you will have to have the key in the ignition anyway...so why not just turn it? Maybe I'm not understanding the application here...?! I'd understand if it were a key card you kepy in your pocked, with a pushbutton ignition (like the Benz LS500), but what's the use in a button if you need the key anyway?

I think its more of a neato whiz bang kewl feature more than a needed one.. so some may like it others may not.. to me, it looks kewl but I can see I wouldnt want it in my car..

lifbcracker
02-03-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by HoustonZ
What's the point? I mean, you will have to have the key in the ignition anyway...so why not just turn it? Maybe I'm not understanding the application here...?! I'd understand if it were a key card you kepy in your pocked, with a pushbutton ignition (like the Benz LS500), but what's the use in a button if you need the key anyway?

why do ricers like wings? Its just pereference. In the ferarri enzo and porches you must do the same exact thing, you have to use a key and you must push the button. Its just what some of us like, and personally I like the option of having two ways to start my car, especially if my hands are tied up ;)

davis181
02-04-2004, 02:27 AM
so, basically i could go to honda and buy the s2000 push button start and all the wireing from honda right!!!

Z-Scrilla
02-04-2004, 04:40 AM
I like this idea too and have been wanting to do it for quite a while. Although I dont think I want to use a button that says "Engine Start" on it. Id rather do something a little cooler like using a "1 player" button from an arcade machine.:D :cool:

lifbcracker
02-04-2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by davis181
so, basically i could go to honda and buy the s2000 push button start and all the wireing from honda right!!!

you can buy the switch, but you must do all the wiring yourself, which is not hard at all.

iamsparc
05-07-2004, 10:26 AM
What I'd like to do is wire up a little security keypad that you can program with a code for the ignition. That way...the car will ONLY start if the proper code is entered. Installed in the cigarette lighter hole...

I'm doing this...it's just a matter of application and figuring it all out....

V6toZ28
05-07-2004, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by lifbcracker
why do ricers like wings? Its just pereference. In the ferarri enzo and porches you must do the same exact thing, you have to use a key and you must push the button.

In a nut shell ... It's a retro ricer mod.

Provides no perfomance advantage, but it's kewl, like a them there big time race cars ...

iamsparc
05-07-2004, 10:49 AM
Keypad (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14934&item=3094516570&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Alrighty...on my way.

iamsparc
05-07-2004, 11:02 AM
:think:I'm actually not doing anything "retro" or "ricer"...I'd like to be able to ONLY start my car with a code entered in on a keypad. I guess this really isn't part of the push button start thread...since I will still start it with the key...only AFTER a code had been entered.

bellcamaro
05-07-2004, 03:38 PM
yeah.. i like iamsparc's idea. except, i'll find a way to do it so you won't need the key at all. i'm sure it's possible.

iamsparc
05-07-2004, 04:28 PM
hey Bell...if you do that...let me know. It would be REALLY cool to just punch in a code and start the car with no key at all. You'll just have to figure out how to bypass the steering wheel lock and all that jazz...but definitely do-able.

MrDude_1
05-07-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by iamsparc
hey Bell...if you do that...let me know. It would be REALLY cool to just punch in a code and start the car with no key at all. You'll just have to figure out how to bypass the steering wheel lock and all that jazz...but definitely do-able.

dis-assemble the column part way, pull the locking pin, reassmble.


really its easy, its right up top.

after that its the simple electronic circut.

have the keypad... proper code flips relay on.
have a kill button. pressing this kills the relay, same as turning the key off.
start button is like having the key on the start position.

b-stevens
05-08-2004, 03:05 PM
If any of you accomplish the keypad start with no key, Please do a writeup of it. I'd love to have that instead of using a key. Would you still be able to start the car with a key though?

Tair
05-08-2004, 06:03 PM
the coolest keyless starter is the Lexus one I think, with the fingerprint scanner. I wish there was a way I could just install a tiny fingerprint scanner pad on my center console, touch it with my finger, and the car would start! :eek:

mullettour
05-09-2004, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by MrDude_1
dis-assemble the column part way, pull the locking pin, reassmble.


really its easy, its right up top.

after that its the simple electronic circut.

have the keypad... proper code flips relay on.
have a kill button. pressing this kills the relay, same as turning the key off.
start button is like having the key on the start position. What would be realy cool is to get a little electric solenoid (like the one used to lock the shifter on an a4 until the brake is pressed) and make it so it would still lock until the code is pushed. It would be pretty easy to wire it up to a relay with the ignition switch.

XxXTransAmXxX
05-09-2004, 01:12 PM
Summit has the Honda S2000 Start button kit for $59.95, this will work on LT1's because Joe Spena's done it to his (RamAir95TA) :metal:

bellcamaro
05-09-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by MrDude_1
dis-assemble the column part way, pull the locking pin, reassmble.


really its easy, its right up top.

after that its the simple electronic circut.

have the keypad... proper code flips relay on.
have a kill button. pressing this kills the relay, same as turning the key off.
start button is like having the key on the start position.

thnx man.. i'll start looking into this during the week. leaving for vacation next week tho, but hopefully i'll have this done by the beginning of june

GoFast908Z
05-10-2004, 01:39 AM
ok, i'm gonna do this start button soon. I'm also gonna get a remote car starter key fob thing..............so

Can both of these work together yet independent of each other? As in, I can start my car from the remote start OR i can get in the car, turn the key to ON and press the button to start. Can these be done on the same car?

97FormulaWS-6
05-10-2004, 07:07 AM
All of what you want to do is very possible... bypass the keyfob, PIN unlocking, remote start, heck, it all depends on how far you want to get into your cars electronic system, and possibly how much you like electronics.

The sky is the limit on this, the knowledge is out there on the internet on how to do everything you want, although you'll have to piece it together.

I've got a whole lot of ideas of what I'd like to do, but I'm laquing in time and a location to setup another of my mad-scientist rooms (I NEED TO FIND A DAMN HOUSE :mad: :mad: ).. once I do that, over this winter I've got TONS of projects like this that I'm planning on doing.

Custom Microcontrolled HUD, Push-button start with code-jumping tranciver technology (Similar to the new MBs), Some custom LED work in the dash, plus a whole bunch of other "little" tricks that I've been thinking of for a while...