Turbo header pipe (where to get it?)

I am building a set of turbo "headers" and need some 1 5/8" O.D. mild steel tubing. I see stainless everywhere, but would like to use mild. I also haven't been able to find a supplier of short collectors for 4-into-1. Anybody know where I can find this stuff?

Buy a Jegs weld-up header kit and some collector flanges from turbonetics. There is plenty of material there to make two headers. I have before. Want pics, email me and I will prove it.

Wingnut

BlownTA@valornet.com

http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/U%20&J%20Bends.htm

Check out their odd bends, you can get 36 feet of odd bends in 1 5/8" mild steel for only $89.

I just ordered some for myself, and it should be more than enough to finish up my headers.

Bill

:eek: Wow SMOKNZ, that is the best price I have ever seen. Much thanks. That will make my job easier in the future.

Wingnut

Smokenz, how did you order through them? Did you call in or get a distributor of their's? That place is perfect, I didn't really think about looking into a "header" place. I kept searching for turbo, or exhaust pipe. Thanks.

Sent you e-mail SMOKNZ and pics.

Wingnut sent you a email..

why do u want mild steel. mild steel can't take the heat like the stainless can. the mild steel will crack over time.

all the racers use 321 stainless.

or if you want to be a bit cheaper and it is still very good 304 stainless. but i would recomend using 321 flanges.

Originally posted by 4-play
Smokenz, how did you order through them? Did you call in or get a distributor of their's? That place is perfect, I didn't really think about looking into a "header" place. I kept searching for turbo, or exhaust pipe. Thanks.

I called them and they forwarded me to a local distributer, who I placed the order from.

Stainless is nice, but I'm still going steel and having it coated, If it cracks, or self destructs, or whatever I could still build about 3 more sets for the price of all stainless. I think that will outlive my relationship with my car.

As an added bonus header building is a trial and error thing, you get better the more sets you build, and I'd rather practice with the cheap stuff, then sometime down the road maybe I'll upgrade.

Bill

Originally posted by wingnut
Sent you e-mail SMOKNZ and pics.

Haven't got anything yet??

Bill

Originally posted by 4-play
I am building a set of turbo "headers" and need some 1 5/8" O.D. mild steel tubing. I see stainless everywhere, but would like to use mild. I also haven't been able to find a supplier of short collectors for 4-into-1. Anybody know where I can find this stuff?

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Here are your collectors, they also sell reducers if you need to go smaller than 3" to the turbo, I went down to 2.5" before the turbo flange.

Bill

geat info thank you. Schoenfeld seems to have pretty good deals on their pipe. I too will be coating my masterpiece, I just can't commit to 321 stainless yet. Maybe after I build a set or two but I change my car around all the time and it's not a daily driver so the mild will probably last long enough for a replacement. I am trying to keep cost down as I am going from a L98 to a LT1 and a stroker and now the turbo, not to mention a better fuel system. I also pulled my A4 out of the other vette today because it was slipping. I love my cars, I love my cars, I love my cars, must keep sayin it. At least the weather sucks here!

4-play,

I see your building a turbo setp for a 91 vette? is it going to be a single or a twin application? and where are you planning on mounting the turbo(s)? I am currently researching a single turbo project right now.. and would like to share some ideas with you on it. perhaps we could both benefit from it? shoot me an email,

lcvette1@aol.com

if you have some free time!

Chris

The main thing I didn't like about using mild steel is that although you can get the outside coated, some(most) companies won't coat the inside of the headers. Really defeats the purpose, if you ask me. :confused:

Looks like "AntiVenom" and "LCVette" have converted to the camaro forums too. Aren't social circles small? :D

Here's another place I found if you want to go 16 gauge http://www.fastpts.com/hazel-doc/headcomp.html#Anchor-18-57899

I have been looking at the Camaro board for some time now. There has never been a shortage of guys on here that are willing to go all out and experiment. My buddy also frequents this board and has a 97 Fbody, he really tipped me toward this forum. Anyway, I just got off the phone with Jet Hot Coatings and they will coat inside and out with the 2000 series. He gave me a "rough" quote for two short headers and crossover tube of $260.00. A turbine housing will run another $100 and that is coating the outside only. I also ordered some piping via Schoenfeld headers.

For you guys with turbo's, here is another question. My turbo has a turbine outlet of 3" I.D. and a 3 1/2" O.D. and is made for a V-Band. Would I order a 3" clamp? I would also like to step up to 3 1/2" pipe, do they have a 3" to 3 1/2" V-band or do I just use a pipe "reducer"? Sorry so long.

hey MN, and Antivenom,

Yeah the vette forum is great, and i know eventually it will continue to grow with the outcast experimenters, but for now there are many more experienced and un affraid modders to talk to and help grow from here on the camaro board.. also, LS1tech is another great forum to read and post too... I have found information from both that the rest of the clan on the CF Forum has likely been hunting for! in about a year or two i think all will be better and more will post to our FI corner on the forum.. 400+ RWHP is just not so impressive anymore is it!! LOL Oh well.

as for thre V-band clamps, I am also very interested.. I would put a call in to Turbonetics and get the skinny from the guys who build the turbo.. could save you some money in the long run!

the Jet Hot oatings are very good, I have had two sets of headers done by them and thye hold up 10 to 1 better then the OEM Hooker coatings.. I buy the uncoated and send them off for the Jet Hot coatings since the first few sets I had chipped flaked and rusted down around the collectors... 3 years on a Jet coating and they still shine from primary to collector!!!! Hard to beat a real world comparison test! under hood temps were much lower with the coated applications as well!

Good luck and please shoot me some pics.


MN,

have you scoped the possibility of a larger turbo then the 60-1 down where your header had it mounted? and are you going to run the crossover under the front portion of the oil pan? this is where i have been running my flexi mock up piping and i think it will fit fine. I amthinking of using a slightly flattened crossing pipe to allow for some more clearance and to have an air gapped heat shield between the pipe and oil pan with some high temp insulation to keep any excess heat out of the sump. let me know what ya think!

Chris

Chris,

I believe there is enough room to get a T series turbo down there. But I'm waiting until I actually get things running before I go out and buy one.

As for the crossover pipe I'm planning on using 2 1/4" - 2 1/2"pipe which should have plenty of room around the front of the oil pan. I think with the amount of airflow under the car the heat transfere should be minimal, especially if you get it coated. I think flattening the pipe will not be needed.

I'm really stoked about getting this project back up in the air again. Especially since the Banks people don't seem to be comming through for anyone. I just need to get the rear end and tranny back into the car so I can level the engine and start building pipes.

I cant weld so where can I buy a set of twin turbo headers for my 1995 Z28

No one really sells twin headers, so you either have to learn how to weld or contact a custom exhaust fabricator, and prepare to pay big bucks!

I can't believe it, I ordered my piping from Schoenfeld on friday around 4pm and a very large box of piping showed up today! That was fast! and there is alot of it, way more than I will ever use!

Bill