how do u disable speed limiter

SSnthe10s
01-21-2004, 12:24 AM
i have a 92 birds with a 305 and TBI unit. i was wonderign what i have to do, to diable my speed limiter.

any help would be sweet


thanks

Dave89IROC
01-21-2004, 01:00 AM
either disconnect the speed sensor wires(will lose speedo and set a code), or get it changed in the chip

bmillington
01-21-2004, 01:34 AM
Maybe stuiped question but, 3rd gen's has speed limiters?

SSnthe10s
01-21-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by bmillington
Maybe stuiped question but, 3rd gen's has speed limiters?

ya im pretty sure

Zepher
01-21-2004, 02:46 AM
TBI cars and V6 cars have limiters in them. I haven't seen a TPI car with a limiter set low enought to slow the car.

Here is a picture of my tuning software with teh speed limiter set to 255,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/cats.jpg

SSnthe10s
01-21-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Zepher
TBI cars and V6 cars have limiters in them. I haven't seen a TPI car with a limiter set low enought to slow the car.

Here is a picture of my tuning software with teh speed limiter set to 255,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/cats.jpg


LOL 255 i need that Hax0r!

w00t w00t

aklim
01-21-2004, 11:10 AM
You cut the VSS and you also lose cruise control and set a code. Not sure if it does affect the way the ECM does the fuel mix tho. Also I believe 3rd gen TPIs came with speed limiters if the tires were not Z rated.

irocz2804
01-21-2004, 04:52 PM
my 87 iroc had a speed limiter at 130 but when i got the new chip it disabled it

SSnthe10s
01-21-2004, 05:10 PM
where do i get a chip for my car. and how much are they??

firebirdjosh
01-21-2004, 05:53 PM
I honestly believe my car wopuld fall apart at 130mph if it can go that fast. At 85ish it starts shaking violently.

Dave89IROC
01-21-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by SSnthe10s
where do i get a chip for my car. and how much are they??

how fast do you plan on going? AFAIK, the TBI cars had the speed limiter at 110 MPH

Ville H. Valo
01-21-2004, 05:55 PM
www.thunderracing.com
Section
1982-1992 F-Body
Subsection
Computer

That is the cheapest i found....

-Ville H. Valo

Ville H. Valo
01-21-2004, 05:57 PM
firebirdjosh I honestly believe my car wopuld fall apart at 130mph if it can go that fast. At 85ish it starts shaking violently.

I used to have a 1989 Camaro RS w/ a 2.8, it would shake at 85mph but would stop around 100mph. try balanceing the tires...

-Ville H. Valo

Zepher
01-21-2004, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by SSnthe10s
where do i get a chip for my car. and how much are they??

I can burn one for you for $50, if I can find another chip lying around. The blank chips used in the TBI cars got quite expesive locally, $28 just for a blank chip.

For comparison, the Flash Chips I use in the TPI cars are larger with more memory and I can get those for $6 a pop.

Ville H. Valo
01-21-2004, 06:40 PM
I can burn one for you for $50, if I can find another chip lying around. The blank chips used in the TBI cars got quite expesive locally, $28 just for a blank chip.

Can you burn me one that would be the same as a Hypertech, for a 1992 TPI CAmaro Z28 5.0?

Zepher
01-21-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Ville H. Valo
Can you burn me one that would be the same as a Hypertech, for a 1992 TPI CAmaro Z28 5.0?

Ya, but for your car you need to have an adaptor that looks like this,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/01-2004/chip_adaptor.jpg

The adaptor sells for $61 shipped with 2 blank proms, so for $111
I can do your car as well. I'll do lifetime burns of the chips, all you cover is shipping both ways for the proms which is about $1.25 each way.

Ville H. Valo
01-21-2004, 07:40 PM
if i bought a hypertech chip the adaptor comes with it, right?

-Ville H. Valo

Zepher
01-21-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Ville H. Valo
if i bought a hypertech chip the adaptor comes with it, right?

-Ville H. Valo

No, if you buy the hypertech, it is already in a memcal like your stock one. they just erase a stock memcal and re-program it.
JET chips use an adaptor, which is what I posted a picture of.

I don't have a pin adaptor to reprogram a chip that is still in the memcal, and using the adaptors is much easier especially when using flash chips which can be erased in seconds in the programmer. Chips in the memcal are Eproms which require the use of a UV light prom eraser.

SSnthe10s
01-22-2004, 01:51 AM
HIGHJACKERS! :alert:

chevyman502bb
01-22-2004, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Ville H. Valo
I used to have a 1989 Camaro RS w/ a 2.8, it would shake at 85mph but would stop around 100mph. try balanceing the tires...

-Ville H. Valo

driveshaft also

aklim
01-22-2004, 06:24 AM
Check engine and especially tranny mounts. Ask me how I know.

Black6SpdTA
01-22-2004, 08:16 AM
There is a tech article on www.thirdgen.org for a toggle switch disabling the VSS sensor. Or just take the plug out.

-Corey

aklim
01-22-2004, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Rippin92RS
There is a tech article on www.thirdgen.org for a toggle switch disabling the VSS sensor. Or just take the plug out.

-Corey

Yes but that disables cruise control. However, is that all? Will it screw up the ECM calculations?

Zepher
01-22-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by aklim
Yes but that disables cruise control. However, is that all? Will it screw up the ECM calculations?

Ya, I hate not having cruise control when driving 110+ :D

Black6SpdTA
01-22-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Zepher
Ya, I hate not having cruise control when driving 110+ :D

:lol: That's exactly what I was thinking.

aklim, it doesn't screw anything up, how fast you're going doesn't deal much with the ECM calculations. Fuel tables and stuff are dependent on RPM right? In that case, speed wouldn't matter.

Zepher
01-22-2004, 07:06 PM
only thing I can think of is the TC not locking up since there is no speed reading.

aklim
01-22-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Zepher
Ya, I hate not having cruise control when driving 110+ :D

I have set CC at about 120 once. :D :D

Not sure what would happen if the TC did not lock up but I would imagine your RPM would be higher?

dj haf
01-23-2004, 02:31 AM
my iroc-z came with a speed limiter at 120 mph.

i noticed when the vss is disconnected and the speedo stops working, the engine revs a couple hundred rpms' higher

Pro
01-23-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Zepher
only thing I can think of is the TC not locking up since there is no speed reading.

It's not a computer controlled transmission though right?

Even the 4L60E in my truck locks the TC when my VSS fails (constantly for some reason....)

What code will be displayed when the VSS in the camaros is disconnected (if any)? I wonder if this is the check engine light I get sometimes when I am driving, but it is never stored.

aklim
01-23-2004, 11:05 AM
I don't think the tranny is controlled by the ECM in that the shifting is controlled by hydraulic pressure but I believe the lockup definately is.

Zepher
01-23-2004, 12:27 PM
here is the setting in the computer for the TC lockup,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/tc_lockup_cats.jpg

Ray86IROC
01-23-2004, 04:23 PM
http://www.tbichips.com/ Does chips for very cheap, like $35-$45 IIRC...