17x11s with 36mm offset all around?

Can it be done? I know lots of people here are running 17x11s (36mm offset) upfront with only minimal "massaging." But from all the info I've searched on here, there really isn't a consensus on whether or not the 36mm offset will work in the rear on a Camaro.

I already did quite a bit of butchering to get 28x10 drag slicks to fit back there with stock-offset wheels, so that should free up some space. My only concern is the tires sticking out too much and rubbing the top of the wheel well. I don't mind rolling the lip, but would like to stay away from flaring the rear fenders.

I know the tried and true combo is a 50mm offset in the rear, but there are some great deals on the 36mm offset wheels. I know, dumb reason, but I'm cheap and poor.

Yes, the ZR1/36mm offset 17x11s will work in the rear of a Camaro. The problem is that they will stick out probably about 1" (or more). Even on a Firebird/TA the ZR1/36mm offset will stick out about .5" on a car with an adjustable panhard rod. Trust me on this, I had true ZR1s on my 95 Formula, and even after spending several hours perfectly centering the rear axle there was right at .5" sticking out on either side past the fenders. It was never a bid deal to me as I had stock springs, but if you are significantly lowered it could be a major issue. Also, on a Camaro, I really don't think you'd like the look of 1" of wheel/tire sticking out either side. To be honest, when I go with ZR1 style 17x11s on the Firehawk (so I can put the stock wheels up and keep them in good condition), I'll probably just go with the GS/50mm offset to keep them tucked inside the fender.

I'm not crazy about the look of the rear tires sticking out an inch either, but it will probably just be a track only think. Anyone with pics of 36mm offset 17x11s on the back of a Camaro?

Just look at a rear 50mm picture and add .551181 inches outboard and that's what you'd get. My 50mm's fit just about perfect... I also use a 1/4" (6.35mm makes it about 43-44mm offset) spacer. I only run the 36mm's on the front and they stick out by at least 1/2". I have pictures in my sig. I tried them on in the rear but they will hit the fender. I've had my 50mm (with spacer) touch the inside of the fender where I rolled the lip, just a little. I can just imagine 1/4" more offset and how that might create an issue.

I've never noticed that they stick out at all on my Firebird with 36mm offset in the rear. Pic attached. In the front with the same offset they just BARELY stick out, much less than .5".

http://home.comcast.net/~miketaylor68/Rear2.jpg

Here are 50mm O/S 11's all around on a TA ....

http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/ZR1_1.jpg

http://24.0.108.222/mitchntx/ZR1_4.jpg

Rear inners were massaged.

The front is running a 1/4" spacer for my brakes to clear.

Originally posted by 94bird
You could always be the first to try it Jon. It looks good on a Firebird I'm tellin ya.
As fate would have it, I just might be. The Wheels are in motion (via the UPS truck) and they are 36mm....

I think I may need a bigger hammer.... :D ;)

Originally posted by Jon A
As fate would have it, I just might be. The Wheels are in motion (via the UPS truck) and they are 36mm....

I think I may need a bigger hammer.... :D ;)

I have faith in you Jon. You can do it.

I'm running the 36mm in the rear, and they look good (don't stick out maybe 1/4") My car is a '99. No massaging the inner fender well. If I do lower the car I'll need to do something different though. I have stock springs in the rear. I've run two different tires Kumho Victoracers and Nitto DRs on the rims. I think with some BFG G-force tires would stick out more..

You Firebird guys are blessed with bigger rear fender wells.

Originally posted by Jon A
As fate would have it, I just might be. The Wheels are in motion (via the UPS truck) and they are 36mm....

I think I may need a bigger hammer.... :D ;)

Please post pics.

Picture of what size and offet??

Picture of what size and offset??

I am going to run 315's on a 50mm offset all around and see how far from perfect they are with no spacers. Hopefully it will all work out like that but if I need a spacer then so be it, gotta get studs too. WOW that white bird mitchntx posted has those 315's tucked real far in back... for what 315's normally look like, hope mine look exactly like that except I dont have any special brakes as of yet so maybe a lil more tucked in up front if it will allow. By god I will make it all fit:)

You will need to grind the little bump off the steering knuckle. It's not big and not too much to grind but it's hard. I had the 50mm on the front by accident once, it's how I know. They will hit that bump.

I know I need to grind that little bump off and trim the plastic cover in there too

Originally posted by bruecksteve
Picture of what size and offet??

I was asking Jon A to post pics of 36mm's all around if he decides to do it.

Mike Taylor has pics up here somewhere of his 36mm all around.

I can show you front only.

hey, I'm looking into the option of getting a 9" rear.... Supposidly moser will make a narrower piece for no extra charge.. So would 1.25" inches off each side make the 36mm offset work? I don't know what kind of interfernce problems that would create on the inner fenders?

mithcntx, did you have to roll the fender lip? how much is your car lowered?

My car's a Firebird but this is what it looks like with 36mm offset 17x11 wheels all the way around. I did roll my fender lip, but I'm lowered almost 2" front and rear. I did it as a precaution before I even mounted my wheels.

http://home.comcast.net/~miketaylor68/GoinRacin.htm

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mikevtaylor/17x11/17x11.htm

Originally posted by ktm520
mithcntx, did you have to roll the fender lip? how much is your car lowered?

I rolled the fender lip as a precaution, not from necessity.

I run G2 Super Springs

Understand that your tire choice is gonna dictate more than anything your rub. A Dunlop is a fat tire, while a Kuhmo is not quite as fat.

I'm not worried re fitting the 17 x11s in the wheel wells but was wondering if you can fit the four mounted tires inside the coupe? Any suggestions as to how this can be done?

You mean as in "hauling" them around??

Originally posted by bruecksteve
You mean as in "hauling" them around??

Yes , I would prefer not to use a trailer. Can you fit 3 x 315 in the back seat with the seat back removed? One can fit the passenger seat.

I can't get four in mine. 3 if you're lucky...

Someone told me that it was possible to get four of them in the car. They wrote:

[I]If you still have your back set, fold it down and roll 3 wheels on the folded back seat. It WILL be very tight. place the 4th one on the back deck, in back of the center and passenger tires that are on the back seat.

Push the tire that is on the back deck forward which will move the center and passenger side wheels forward. Trial close the rear hatch. if it hits the tire, push it further forward.

If you back seat is removed it's much easier to stack 2 wheels and kitty corner a 3rd one. Then repaet the push/trial fit 4th wheel on the back deck in back of the 2 stacked wheels[\I]

Originally posted by RichJ
If you back seat is removed it's much easier to stack 2 wheels and kitty corner a 3rd one. [\I]

The section width of a mounted 315 Kumho is almost 13 " and the total width between the arm rests in the back is just over 42" so I doubt you would be able to squeeze the 3 rd wheel/tire combo back there where the rear seat used to be unless you totaly removed the front passenger seat ( which I am not prepared to do) Frankly unless I hear of someone who can actually do it ( fit 4 mounted 315s in their car)I won't be buying 17 x 11s I guess.

Yea, I tried but couldn't make them fit, I don't know how anyone else could do it either.

4 tires in a Fbody:

two over the back seat

one halfway on the rear hump.. it cant go all the way back because of the glass.

remove air from the 4th tire..... should JUST bearly fit in the rear trunkwell and close with all the air out.

(stick the 12v air compressor in the lil storage compartment back there ;) )

MrDude, have you actually done this with mounted 315s? Did you have the seat back in place? I have looked into taking the seat back out putting 3 wheel/tire combos in upright across the back seat but although they should fit , I can't believe I could get them in there.

Personally I would not want to risk breaking the bead and would put the 4 th tire in the passenger seat rather than the "trunk".