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MustangEater82
01-07-2004, 01:01 AM
hey you can get stuff form Australia right?

well some v6 guys, and me a little were wondeirng what kind of price couls you get on a Holden spec M90 supercharger for a L67 3.8L series 2 motor.

Specifically the RWD L67...

gol10dr
01-07-2004, 08:59 AM
I've been looking for one of those, I've even contacted some compaines over in Australia, let me know what you find out. You'll also need the throttle body as well.

MustangEater82
01-07-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by gol10dr
I've been looking for one of those, I've even contacted some compaines over in Australia, let me know what you find out. You'll also need the throttle body as well.

Why woudl I need the throttle body?

My plan is if it isn't a direct swap to build a elbo that would make a turn and hook my throttle body up to the side. Since mine is "Drive By wire" I can pretty much place it anywhere...

But to run a M90 blower need the heads off a gtp :(

darkoverlift
01-07-2004, 09:06 AM
lol.. The holden is nice.. It will work since it is on a RWD 3.8 there. Eric would not need a TB since his is drive by the wire and has no cable unlinke yours John.


The super I would guess should run under 500 shipped. If you can find one used on Ebay that would be ideal, but I never see Aussie type car parts on ebay. Is there a ebay australia?

gol10dr
01-07-2004, 09:10 AM
The throttle body actually attaches to the side of the super, (kinda at a 45 from the super to the front corner, at least on the holden cars) I didn't know we'd need the heads too :(

I forgot your car is a drive by wire.. you may have less problems than I.

gol10dr
01-07-2004, 09:20 AM
Nothing on Ebay-Australia....

darkoverlift
01-07-2004, 10:04 AM
Two options to get results. 1. Call the companies who sell them directly, email to a large company is hoping they find time to respond. Imagine the number of emails each day they get and possibly how insignificant the business from you is compared to others. A call would get results asap.

Message boards for RWD 3.8 Super Charged holden Cars. Check them out then ask about pricing or buying one.

http://www.automotiveforums.com

http://www.hubcaps-wheelcovers.com/links-misc.htm

94GrayV6
01-07-2004, 12:46 PM
You're not allowed to get a blower, Eric. You'd probably be faster than me then and I couldn't take that!

darkoverlift
01-07-2004, 01:02 PM
Stock would probably add 40HP and then you got simple pulley swaps for more power. Up to 19PSI the eaton in my GTP can take with programming and race fuel.

Eric runs 14.6 now, toss the blower and I bet 13.8 no other mods or programming. Plus he has the bling bling shock look when he pops the hood and people are like what is that.


John runs 16.1 if he does it with no other mods he might run 15.5ish

MustangEater82
01-07-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by darkoverlift
Two options to get results. 1. Call the companies who sell them directly, email to a large company is hoping they find time to respond. Imagine the number of emails each day they get and possibly how insignificant the business from you is compared to others. A call would get results asap.



hehe sort of why I am trying to see what Brett can do... Rumor has it he has Forced induction contacts in Australia... seems like he might be an option...


you do have to do the heads, to fit the supercharger on you have to use the intake manifold which has no holds for the injectors they are in the heads themselves...

PRetty sure I woudl not do it but jsut a thought... everyone says it cannot be done on a v6 f-body, just like proving people wrong every now and then :)

I am not sure what it woudl add to my car, my compression ratio is waay different then a GTP.

94REDSTALLIONZ
01-07-2004, 10:37 PM
I will let Brett know about this post..we have been pretty busy lately, sorry about that...BTW shoot eaton an e-mail about the m-112 blowers for 3.8's...dont know if they even make those yet lol but god that would be fun :D

Carter

got_hp?
01-07-2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by MustangEater82
hehe sort of why I am trying to see what Brett can do... Rumor has it he has Forced induction contacts in Australia... seems like he might be an option...



he does......jsut call him, his number is on the MASC website.

MustangEater82
01-09-2004, 01:56 PM
Pssst... Brett take a look, I know you are around...


BTW I saw an ad for MASC in GMHTP :)

LT1Brutus
01-10-2004, 03:23 PM
hmmm. I posted a reply the other day but for some reason it never came up. The guys over Australia take like a whole month off around this time of year (summertime there). They'll be back on Monday Jan, 12th and I'll talk to them then. Stay tuned!

MustangEater82
01-10-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by LT1Brutus
hmmm. I posted a reply the other day but for some reason it never came up. The guys over Australia take like a whole month off around this time of year (summertime there). They'll be back on Monday Jan, 12th and I'll talk to them then. Stay tuned!

No problem but if it works and is more affordable then a normal supercharger setup... may have alot of business :)

LT1Brutus
01-17-2004, 04:36 PM
Okay here's the scoop so far guys. Forgive me for not knowing all the details of 3.8Ls, hopefully you can help me out. My contact in Australia said that if he recalls right the injectors on the cars over there actually have their bungs mounted into the heads so that they could clear the supercharger. I don't know, but assume here they are still in the actual intake. He's going to take a look @ one and get some pictures. It would also be helpful if one of you could volunteer to take some detailed pics of your motor for comparison. If the injector locations are different then I believe you'd have to change heads as well as the rest of the setup. WE also still don't know how the serpentine runs. The good side to the heads is that the 3.8L over there is rated @ something like 230hp so possibly the heads are better flowing. That wouldn't do much for cost though.
Anyone want to send me some 3.8L pics?

gol10dr
02-26-2004, 11:00 AM
The fuel injectors on my 3.8(96). are mounted on the intake manifold. I will try and get some pictures this weekend.

MustangEater82
02-27-2004, 03:56 AM
Thats how the GTP is... the injectors are in the heads, but in N/A 3.8Ls they are in an intake manifold... but hte heads are direct bolt up at least for the GTP to 3.8L...

Also to help you out, f-body v6 is L36, GTP supercharged is L67


The main problem we have of not being able to do a GTP block in an f-body everythign is the same is the fact that the supercharger is made to not have to worry abotu clearance issues, since it is horizontally mounted in FWD cars... The TB is on the opposite side of the SC pulley.

as for the pulley system you coudl just put a crank pulley off a GTP and I believe that works the same. For the most part these motors are identical, people have put GTP internals in to L36s and run boost on them through a custom supercharger, and actually locally shane is putting a L67 short block with L36 heads on his turbo v6 so he can run more then 7 psi of boost

MustangEater82
02-27-2004, 04:05 AM
Brett not sure if these help any...

but check out page 3 of my site...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/514505/3

also started a thread here...

http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001434

MustangEater82
02-29-2004, 01:44 AM
an older post(the one I think originally spawned this post)

http://www.camarov6.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=001323;p=1