Where I am at right now with the C6 front end...

I have odd, conflicting feelings about the C6 front end... I like it... I like it a lot... but just not for a Corvette.... it doesn't scream "CORVETTE!" to me.... it screams something else:

I think I am coming to the conclusion that C6 front clip look would have made a fantastic Camaro front end... the Camaro look is there... pseudo headlamp "pockets", the wide-mouth grille...


:think:

You know, that's where I was at first. After seeing the different angles it looks like a corvette to me.

One thing that surprised me was the C6 photochop with the pop-up headlights. Now that looked like a corvette right off the bat! Maybe it's just a matter of getting used to the headlights.

I really can see a cool, clean evolutionary transition from this:

http://www.wieck.com/public/*2PV_031080

to this:

http://www.wieck.com/public/*2PV_063109


Front end styling, only, of course... Am I goofier than normal?? :confused:

I like it enough to actually consider buying one. :p Seriously. My wife and I are discussing it. But, I would probably have to give up purchasing a 2007 Camaro to do so. :(

Originally posted by jg95z28
I like it enough to actually consider buying one. :p Seriously. My wife and I are discussing it. But, I would probably have to give up purchasing a 2007 Camaro to do so. :(

Well, it's not so much liking or disliking I am getting at... more of if the styling would have better fit a fifth generation Camaro over a sixth generation Corvette...

Darth, your whole theory here makes great sense. It would definetly made a great 5th gen front end.

On a side note, what's your favourite kind of pop?

Is it 7-up?

Cheers,

Jeff
;)

Originally posted by Darth Xed
Well, it's not so much liking or disliking I am getting at... more of if the styling would have better fit a fifth generation Camaro over a sixth generation Corvette... Maybe that's why I like it so much. ;)

Even though I like the C6 as it is, I have to agree. That would have made a good 5th gen front end. :thumb:

As far as the C6 goes...

Maybe the aftermarket will oblige us? At least someone comming up with a cool looking mesh grill to fill the gap. Or even a real molded insert that helps fill that carp-mouth a bit (wuthout restricting airflow).

Still that quibble aside, I'm digging the new styling overall - now that I'm being bomabarded with C6 images :).

Would be cool on the Camaro perhaps - but again.. it needs something to make the gap less cavernous. At least the 4th gen had a molded insert that could be painted up to look good and boldly spell 'Camaro'.

I think the Camaro cues are there if you chose to see them, but the same things were said about C5 and the '91-92 Firebird back in 1996. Put a C5 and C6 nose to nose and I think the evolution is pretty clear, at least it is to me. And when I go back to archive images of Corvette Concepts from the past, I see hints of many of them in the C6 nose.

Take the Indy Corvette, Stingray III, and C5, blend them together, and you have the C6 front end.

My larger point here is that this hand wringing goes on with every new vette and most enthusiast cars in general. The criticisms of the C5 died down after the first couple of years, and it went from a "love it or hate it" thing to the point now where when the C6 comes out it starts to sound like everyone had a consensus on how great the C5 looked.

Remember all the carping about the C5 looking too much like the RX7? Don't hear much of that now do you? Why, because as time went on and everybody got used to the car, it became very identifiable as a Corvette. Same thing will happen with the C6, history will repeat itself.

I REALLY hate to say this,since I've loved Vettes since I was about 3,and I know I'll get flamed for it,but the new Vette nose,for some reason,makes me think "import" more than it does Corvette. JMO. I don't like it as much as the C5.

I still haven't come up with my full opinion of the c6, first I need to see it in person. I love the side, the front I am growing to like but I dislike the back a lot and the hood.

Darth, I can see it also with very minor touches.

Originally posted by Richard Cabeza
.....the new Vette nose,for some reason,makes me think "import" more than it does Corvette.... I don't like it as much as the C5.

I REALLY hate to say this,since I've loved Vettes since I was about 3,and I know I'll get flamed for it,but the new Vette nose,for some reason,makes me think "import" more than it does Corvette. JMO. I don't like it as much as the C5.

Strange. It doesn't look one whit like an import to me. Actually though if this is the case with a lot of potential buyers, that will likely turn out to be a good thing since everyone is so enthralled nowadays with imports anyway.

I for one think the C6 front end is a great evolution for the Corvette, and a significant improvement over the C5. I've never warmed up fully to the C5 front end... too round and anonymous... and the C6 has an awesome angular hood and the sharper fenders to go with it. The fixed headlights are well-shaped and unlike the C5, will not look 'dorky' at night.

Yea I could see a 5th Gen Camaro look to this C6 noce. But I can also see it being completly Vette too. Yea it doens't scream CORVETTE but it looks like one. I guess this board kinda spoiled it because for quite some time we've been getting looks and peeks at this car so when it came out if just kinda fit. But for the masses its the kind of style that is a bit one the fence. If you tell everyone this is the new Camaro I could see many people saying yea I see that, tell them its the new Corvette and they say they see that too. :cool:

Kinda wierd when I look at the nose I look right through it and see the 6.0L 400hp LS2 resting between the fenders and I think yea its a Vette! :thumb:

Originally posted by Darth Xed
I have odd, conflicting feelings about the C6 front end... I like it... I like it a lot... but just not for a Corvette.... it doesn't scream "CORVETTE!" to me.... it screams something else:

I think I am coming to the conclusion that C6 front clip look would have made a fantastic Camaro front end... the Camaro look is there... pseudo headlamp "pockets", the wide-mouth grille... :think:

No way would I ever accept that as the 5th Gen front bumper. I think people are looking a little too much into the C6. Yeah it's got a center grill, but it isn't quite Camaro looking and those aren't quite headlight pockets either. ;)

Originally posted by IZ28
No way would I ever accept that as the 5th Gen front bumper. I think people are looking a little too much into the C6. Yeah it's got a center grill, but it isn't quite Camaro looking and those aren't quite headlight pockets either. ;)

No... it does look exactly the same as a 3rd Gen... I know that. ;) But the general theme is there.

Bah! Let's just hope the 5th Gen is Camaro looking LOL.

I agree, theres a lot of Camaro ques in that front clip. Especially from the side angle, it looks almost the same.

I saw the car at the LA show on the table. I take back all the negative stuff I said about it. Its an awsome looking car. Lots of presence. Even the eggcrate grill was taken care of. Its dark and out of the way visually. The car just looks clean.

i agree. i just saw the vette yesterday at the la show and i take everything negative i said back. the car is a show stopper! absolutely beautiful. i also have some nice pics of the car (and front end) if anyone wants to host them.

I saw the C6 and Mustang at the LA show yesterday. I simply stared at the C6 for at least 30 minutes. It is twice as beautiful in person as it is in pictures. I encourage everyone here to make a point to see it in person. The Mustang in person looks awesome.

Unless I find out a lot of 5th gen rumors within two years, I'm going to be trying to snatch up a 06 Cobra! :eek:

I still think we are going to see popups on the ZO6...

Originally posted by SageofKnight
I still think we are going to see popups on the ZO6...

Really?

If anything, I'd think it'd be the other way around since Z06 is the performance model, and pays even more attention to weight and such....

Originally posted by Darth Xed
Really?

If anything, I'd think it'd be the other way around since Z06 is the performance model, and pays even more attention to weight and such....
he's just feeding you lies, man. ;)

After seeing the Viper and the C-6 side by side, the front end screams "Viper" to me.

Really?

If anything, I'd think it'd be the other way around since Z06 is the performance model, and pays even more attention to weight and such....

Well my thinking is why not use it as something to make the Z06 even more special? Instead of the more expensive Z06 being the "ugly" version as it was on the C5, it would now be the better looking version in C6 form. The C5 Z06 could have used the C5R fixed headlamps but didn't...why?

Originally posted by SageofKnight
Well my thinking is why not use it as something to make the Z06 even more special? Instead of the more expensive Z06 being the "ugly" version as it was on the C5, it would now be the better looking version in C6 form. The C5 Z06 could have used the C5R fixed headlamps but didn't...why?

I think the C5 Z06 was the way it was for a number of reasons, a couple are:

1) The 1999 Hardtop was a total flop. noone wanted it. By exclusively offering the LS6 in it, and calling it Z06, they forced people who wanted the extra powe rinto the hardtop model... thereby saving face on the issue.

2) Since Z06 was basically a hardtop model, with the upgraded performance items, I don't think they ever intended it to have different headlamps. Remember the hardtop was meant to be the 'poor man's Corvette', and even failed at that. Offering a different headlamp package would have only added to the price (and, personally, I think it would have been ugly)

3) If the LS6 was offered in the hatch and corvetible, the hardtop would have remained a failure and a sore spot in the C5 program over that time... doing what they did turned a failure into a success, even at the expense of maybe alienating those who wanted the LS6 performance as well as the hatchback gooodies, or the droptop.

The C5R headlamp thing was more of a rhetorical question, I know it would have been ugly that is why GM didn't do it despite the weight savings. I would assume fixed lights would have been cheaper than motorized popups too.

I know that the non-Z06 hardtop was a flop. It was supposed to be the "stripper" or no frills version of the Vette, but is wasn't enough of a performance improvement to overcome it's looks compared to the other models. So they dropped in a more powerful motor to widen the gap and balance sales, everyone knows that.

The fact that putting the LS6 in the coupe and vert would have killed hardtop sales is exactly why I think GM is going to make the next Z06 better looking than the other models this time around. Paying the extra cash for a C6 Z06 is going to be a no-brainer.