2004, 2005 year Chevys

How will the styling of the new car lineup affect the Camaro?
Personally, I don't know if those 05 corvette headlights would look good on a Camaro. I'd love to see a first gen front look.

Well as long as the Maibu doesnt offer any hints I think we'll be OK. :p In my opinion, thats the only one of the new Chevys that I just dont like the styling at all. I dont really think much can be drawn from the current cars styling however. I dont really see a current theme.

I halfway expect the next Camaro the be styled more upright, along the lines of Holden coupes and obviously the new GTO. It really wouldnt suprise me that instead of the Camaro and Firebird being "brothers," as they have been in the past, the Camaro and GTO be come less distiguisable "cousins."

The only thing I would guess as far as styling is that the taillights will somehow incorporate circles in their styling.... it is a Chevy styling cue being used across the entire division right now.

I think the Camaro will have fenders that have creases off them, like the Impala and Malibu(see also 69' Camaro). I think they will be more bold however and I am pretty sure the car won't be as curvy as the 4th gen but will have curves, creases, and shrp character lines like the C6 but not like new Caddys.

Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
I think the Camaro will have fenders that have creases off them, like the Impala and Malibu(see also 69' Camaro). I think they will be more bold however and I am pretty sure the car won't be as curvy as the 4th gen but will have curves, creases, and shrp character lines like the C6 but not like new Caddys.

i don't know what's scarier
that you described it like that, or that i actually understood that:p

Originally posted by steve2002
How will the styling of the new car lineup affect the Camaro?
Personally, I don't know if those 05 corvette headlights would look good on a Camaro.

I would hope the Camaro would have no corporate styling at all, since it really never has. I would also hope that those headlights will never get anywhere near the 5th Gen, or the round taillights.

Originally posted by IZ28
I would hope the Camaro would have no corporate styling at all, since it really never has. I would also hope that those headlights will never get anywhere near the 5th Gen, or the round taillights.

I agree, no corp. styling, only Camaro styling.

Originally posted by Z28x
I agree, no corp. styling, only Camaro styling. Exactly, and most notably, NO chrome bar and bowtie on the grille. Only the Camaro emblem will do.

GM hired designer Bryan Nesbitt from Chrysler (the one who designed the PT Cruiser). He is responsible for GM's unibody architecture designs.

He basically not only has design imput, but also integrates design ideas to structures.

He spent alot of time at Camaro gatherings and functions shortly after his arrival, is an advid Camaro fan.

That's all I'll say on this subject. ;)

http://www.carlist.com/conceptcars/bryannesbitt.html

Along those same lines, but taking a different path: How will the new mustang effect the styling of the next gen camaro?

I beleive based on the success of the '05 stang, GM may or may not go retro on the next gen Camaro in competition. Do we have a re-match in the making that's similar to the '64 stang and '67 camaro where Ford breaks ground in the Pony car market and GM is caught with it's pants down trying to play catch-up?

I really think that Ford has hit upon something here, although I don't completely love all the styling cues of the car, nonetheless it's certainly a bold move.

This could have a trickle-down effect at the General....

Originally posted by GOATCRAZY
Along those same lines, but taking a different path: How will the new mustang effect the styling of the next gen camaro?

I beleive based on the success of the '05 stang, GM may or may not go retro on the next gen Camaro in competition. Do we have a re-match in the making that's similar to the '64 stang and '67 camaro where Ford breaks ground in the Pony car market and GM is caught with it's pants down trying to play catch-up?

I really think that Ford has hit upon something here, although I don't completely love all the styling cues of the car, nonetheless it's certainly a bold move.

This could have a trickle-down effect at the General....

with bob lutz running the show (anti-retro) i don't really see a retro camaro ever making a debut

Originally posted by unvc92camarors
with bob lutz running the show (anti-retro) i don't really see a retro camaro ever making a debut


I hope not too, but SSR, HHR, and the new Nomad concept are all retro-mania... I don't know that Mr. Lutz would have been involved in SSR or not, but most certainly the other two...

Originally posted by GOATCRAZY
I beleive based on the success of the '05 stang, GM may or may not go retro on the next gen Camaro in competition.

Apparently there have already been styling clinics featuring a Chevrolet coupe. The car's design could actually be done, save for some minor tweaks and touch-ups here and there.

Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Apparently there have already been styling clinics featuring a Chevrolet coupe. The car's design could actually be done, save for some minor tweaks and touch-ups here and there.

I would have to agree for the most part, major design is probably done but I would guess some important features could change if we are looking at a car for the 06 auto show. Either way no retro and no circle tail lights. :)

Originally posted by Darth Xed
I hope not too, but SSR, HHR, and the new Nomad concept are all retro-mania... I don't know that Mr. Lutz would have been involved in SSR or not, but most certainly the other two... Crap! And being the the Nomad more closely resembles the original concept and not the actual Nomads that went into production, maybe they're using the XP-836 to influence the 5th Gen Camaro? :p

At least they didn't borrow from the Mako Shark in designing the C6. (But then, that might have been cool. :lol: )

Originally posted by GOATCRAZY
Along those same lines, but taking a different path: How will the new mustang effect the styling of the next gen camaro?

I beleive based on the success of the '05 stang, GM may or may not go retro on the next gen Camaro in competition. Do we have a re-match in the making that's similar to the '64 stang and '67 camaro where Ford breaks ground in the Pony car market and GM is caught with it's pants down trying to play catch-up?

I really think that Ford has hit upon something here, although I don't completely love all the styling cues of the car, nonetheless it's certainly a bold move.

This could have a trickle-down effect at the General....

IF Camaro's returning in 2006 as a 2007 car, it's styling has been done for some time, minus whatever tweaks need to be made to improve it's function (ie: perhaps a redesigned grill opening due to results from cooling tests, or stuff like that).

As a yardstick, consider Ford's current Mustang body design was frozen back in late summer 2001, and was originally slated to be out by now, and that at GM it now takes 18-24 months to take a finished design all the way to production.

Assuming Camaro (and GTO and perhaps Buick as well) will be out in 2006 as 2007 cars, it's designs would have been frozen in no later than early-mid 2003.

Using the same based assumptions (2006 as a 2007 intro & 18-24 month development time) the next Camaro should be finishing up it's engineering packaging of it's components within it's structure, and making any last minute structure changes needed before moving to it's next stage.

Again, IF Camaro is returning in 2006 as a 2007, it's waaaaaaay too late to talk about much more than minor cosmetic changes on it's design I suspect.

Otherwise, we'd be looking at the 2008 or 2009 model year at the earliest.

IF?

What happened gui? Did you get chastised by someone from GM for your earlier posts that made it sound like it was pretty much already a done deal? :confused:

Originally posted by jg95z28
IF?


I was thinking the same thing. What's all this "if/assuming" stuff. ;) We know the real deal! :D

"If" is for just the year that it's comming out in.

A Camaro MUST be recognizable coming down the street at you......or leaving you in the dust.:cool:

Originally posted by IZ28
I would hope the Camaro would have no corporate styling at all, since it really never has.

If it did it would really kill the spririt of the car.

Originally posted by GOATCRAZY
Along those same lines, but taking a different path: How will the new mustang effect the styling of the next gen camaro?

I beleive based on the success of the '05 stang, GM may or may not go retro on the next gen Camaro in competition. Do we have a re-match in the making that's similar to the '64 stang and '67 camaro where Ford breaks ground in the Pony car market and GM is caught with it's pants down trying to play catch-up?

I really think that Ford has hit upon something here, although I don't completely love all the styling cues of the car, nonetheless it's certainly a bold move.

This could have a trickle-down effect at the General....

I would hate it if they went retro with it. Ford is doing it because they can't afford to drop another bomb and are trying to go with what worked in the past. I don't know if it will work or not, but the Camaro needs to head to the future, not the past.

Originally posted by Red Planet
A Camaro MUST be recognizable coming down the street at you......or leaving you in the dust.:cool:

;) :thumb:

A Z28 must also be recognizable as what it should be. :) :D

I hope the Camaro will be right in the middle of new and old. A modern looking car with strong styling points from earlier cars, and proportions more like the 1st gen for user friendliness.(no windshield on my head and an engine I can see entirely.)

Originally posted by scott9050
I would hate it if they went retro with it. Ford is doing it because they can't afford to drop another bomb and are trying to go with what worked in the past. I don't know if it will work or not, but the Camaro needs to head to the future, not the past.
Exactly...I'm tired of this retro crap. They need to start on a new slate and stop styling from the past to find cushion to fall back on like Ford did with the Mustang. Chevy needs a completely new and radical idea. One that Camaro enthusiasts everywhere can agree with.

Originally posted by Indelibility
Exactly...I'm tired of this retro crap. They need to start on a new slate and stop styling from the past to find cushion to fall back on like Ford did with the Mustang. Chevy needs a completely new and radical idea. One that Camaro enthusiasts everywhere can agree with.

I partially agree, I think that the concept of dragging out the '67 camaro prints and trying to modernize those would be a mistake (can we say thun-der-turd, boys & girls).

I do believe a touch of the past in the next design to bring in the heritage of the vehicle would be a good thing.

Is it me, or is there a touch of the 58-61 vettes in the grille of the C6?

I think little splashes of the past like that help to tie in the older generation, as well as younger buyers to a new product.....

Originally posted by Red Planet
A Camaro MUST be recognizable coming down the street at you......or leaving you in the dust.:cool: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Originally posted by Red Planet
A Camaro MUST be recognizable coming down the street at you......or leaving you in the dust.:cool:

Oh Heck ya most of the time around here its Leaving you in the dust as you go down the track lol.


But you do know that the newer seabrigs (what ever their dang name is) sort of looks like the Camaro via the rear end. at lease I think so.

LS1 Camaros get mistaken for Chryslers all the time and all 4th Gens look a little similar from the back also. You're not the only one who noticed that. ;)

Originally posted by GOATCRAZY
I partially agree, I think that the concept of dragging out the '67 camaro prints and trying to modernize those would be a mistake (can we say thun-der-turd, boys & girls).

I do believe a touch of the past in the next design to bring in the heritage of the vehicle would be a good thing.

Is it me, or is there a touch of the 58-61 vettes in the grille of the C6?

I think little splashes of the past like that help to tie in the older generation, as well as younger buyers to a new product.....

I don't believe that the Thunderbird failed because it's retro. I think the Thunderbird failed because it's really overpriced for what it is. I think, like retro styling or not, that the Mustang is going to be a smashing success at $18-28k.

Originally posted by Red Planet
A Camaro MUST be recognizable coming down the street at you......or leaving you in the dust.:cool:

Can i get an AMEN!:bow: