thoughts on the new Titian

I was planing on getting a Chevy 1500 or a Colorado (both extended cab) but the new Titan might take their place as the desirable truck, when my current one dies. The Titan has more power and cost less then the 1500 (slightly more then the Colorado).

Have you heard anything good or bad about the Titan.

Looks like a nice truck but cant really say since it has just come out
The only thing I hear bad about is people flaming it because its a Nissan/import

You shouldnt really buy an import truck, its their first try into the full size truck demographic, and they arent really known for their trucks. I'm sure you can find a cheaper 1500 w/rebates than the titan, and still have the bowtie on the grill. Trust me on this one america = king of pickups. :)

It has a lower MSRP than the Silverado, but don't forget GM prices trucks high so they can give you a $3000 rebate. The Nissan is 305HP and the Silverado is 295HP, 10 peak HP isn't that big of a deal, The Chevy 5.3L has a great torque curve.

Colorado is much smaller than both trucks and will probably be $5000 cheaper than both with simalar options.

I'd test drive all 3 first. The new F-150 is probably a better truck than both the Nissan and Silverado.

I feel like slamming it because its a Japanese import. Its probably ok, but buy yourself an American truck!! Chevy, Ford or Dodge...they're all good ones.:)

I'm guessing your time frame for actually buying is next year.

Regardless, it is important to actually go talk to a dealer from both Nissan and Chevrolet to find out what the deal actually is. I'd be very surprised to see a Titan undercut a comparably equipped Silverado in price... matter of fact, I'll eat my hat if it actually happens.

The Titan might not undercut a Chevy in price, but it is definately nicer. The interior is many steps ahead and the truck overall just offers more features. This truck is right up there with the new F-150. The truck also has a really nice engine.

I found it a bit sad that the Titan with the V8 is just as quick as the Silverado SS to 60mph. :o

I think the 5.3 will be boosted to 310 hp in 2005.
Keep that in mind.

And is the dash in the Titan the same as the Armada? If it is, then the GM trucks have it all over the Titan. I HATE the interior in the Armada. It has a plasticy look to it. The design is too concept car looking. Too gimmick-y. The new F-150 is the same way.

I'd definately stick to the GM products.

Titan Interior (http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ModelAttributes/0,,31961|31002|,00.html#midpageAnchor) vs. Silverado Interior (http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/interior.htm)

I dont think its much of a contest there.

As for powerplants, we all know about the 5.3 Liter in the Chevy, but Nissans new engine makes 305 horsepower. 379 lb-ft of torque, with 90% kicking in below 2,500 rpm and a full 80% on tap at a class-leading 1,000 rpm.*

Truthfully, if the GM truck doesnt cost less, something is seriously wrong.

Originally posted by IMPALA64
I feel like slamming it because its a Japanese import. Its probably ok, but buy yourself an American truck!! Chevy, Ford or Dodge...they're all good ones.:)
Nissans more "American" than Chevy, atleast according to this.

http://www.autoextremist.com (http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml#table)

To quote:
"If last week's Rant about Nissan's aggressive pricing of their new Titan pickup raised a lot of eyebrows and temperatures, this little tidbit will add an interesting dimension to the discussion. At a time when some Detroit-based manufacturers are building trucks in Mexico and Canada, the story behind the new Nissan Titan is an interesting one. The Titan was styled in San Diego (penned by a woman originally from Livonia, MI), developed in Los Angeles, engineered in Detroit (80% of the engineering work was done right here in suburban Farmington Hills, MI) and built in Mississippi - with engines made in Tennessee. Most if not all of the product planning and research was done by American-born citizens, some of whom had done stints at Detroit-based car companies and some who are even ex-Detroiters. So conceivably, to some people's eyes, the new Titan pickup could be considered even more "American" than some of the trucks from the Detroit-based car companies. It's a small world after all, Bunkie... "
:D

Granted this is only my opinion, but the Titan is the ugliest truck I've ever seen. The interior looks ok, but still a bit odd. I don't care for the Silverado's interior either, though. But at least the exterior isn't nearing Aztek-level fugliness. :yuck:

I cant comment on the truck overall but i like the silverado interior better than the titan.

I also like it better than the new f-150's interior. I think people rave about the f-150's interior because the previous f-150's interior sucked and could only be improved upon.

One thing important to note about the new F-150 interior is that it has multiple interiors base on the trim level you get.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=389256&page=8

scroll to the bottom

Originally posted by cjwilson99
I cant comment on the truck overall but i like the silverado interior better than the titan.

I also like it better than the new f-150's interior. I think people rave about the f-150's interior because the previous f-150's interior sucked and could only be improved upon.

Hmmm, I always thought the GM interiors were the most "flat" and bland. The only truck interior i liked less than the GM's were the older Dodge trucks.

Just remember something about Nissan's pricing strategy on the new Titans - they are going to sell them below cost just to get them out there and undercut the competition. They will actually be losing money on these things at first.

Originally posted by slt
Nissans more "American" than Chevy, atleast according to this.

http://www.autoextremist.com (http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml#table)

To quote:
"If last week's Rant about Nissan's aggressive pricing of their new Titan pickup raised a lot of eyebrows and temperatures, this little tidbit will add an interesting dimension to the discussion. At a time when some Detroit-based manufacturers are building trucks in Mexico and Canada, the story behind the new Nissan Titan is an interesting one. The Titan was styled in San Diego (penned by a woman originally from Livonia, MI), developed in Los Angeles, engineered in Detroit (80% of the engineering work was done right here in suburban Farmington Hills, MI) and built in Mississippi - with engines made in Tennessee. Most if not all of the product planning and research was done by American-born citizens, some of whom had done stints at Detroit-based car companies and some who are even ex-Detroiters. So conceivably, to some people's eyes, the new Titan pickup could be considered even more "American" than some of the trucks from the Detroit-based car companies. It's a small world after all, Bunkie... "
:D


Wow. :eek:

Talk about ironies!

Hey guys. Owning a Nissan Frontier and after keeping up with the Titan for almost a year, I can tell you this new Titan is a hoss of a truck. Just look at the chassis. Fully boxed ladder frame and the axles are from Dana (based on the Dana 44). The brakes are Bosch and it comes from the factory with Rancho shocks. It also comes with a standard 5-speed automatic transmission too. The all aluminum 5.6 liter V8 has a really flat torque curve, with a lot of grunt way down low. With 379 lb-ft of torque, 90% of that below 2,500 rpm and a full 80% on tap at 1,000 rpm (beat that!). My dad has an 03 Z71 (fully loaded ext cab) and is tired of it and about to switch to the Titan or possibly F-150. The thing feels like it has a very weak drivetrain with lots of play. He's taken it to the dealer many times complaining about how much play is in it (feels like bad u-joints) but they keep telling him all the new Chevy's and GMC's have that problem and that's just the way they are. He's also had numerous transfer case problems, exhaust leaks, and too many error codes to count. The interiors are nice, but take a closer look at the Titan's. Also, the rear doors on the extended cab Titan swing out almost 180 degrees.

And another thing (though a couple of people have beaten me to it), is that it is more American than the domestics.

Trust me, it's a nice truck and there are MANY other features that would take up too much space here.

A brand new Armada rolled through my campus the other day and I swear there wasn't a person NOT staring at that thing. A few people actually stopped and watched it drive by. It has a "presence" about it. It's a hoss and so is the Titan.

May we all bow down to the mighty, all knowing, perfect Japanese auto manufacturers. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by IMPALA64
May we all bow down to the mighty, all knowing, perfect Japanese auto manufacturers. :rolleyes:

credit where credit is due....

I think it looks like a nice truck but Nissan kinda shot themselves in the foot on this one. First off, introducing it around the same time as the new F150 was probly not the best decision out there. I'm not a Ford guy by any means but that new Ford is one damn nice truck and it's going to be hard for anyone to out do it right now. Second off, the new F-150 when it was still in speculation to the public for specs it was leaked that it had a 9000 lb capacity which is more than other competing brands so ironically when these two trucks came out nissan too had a 9000 lb rating but Ford actually jumped to 9200 or 9300 I can't remember. Just funny how that worked out. I'll still stick to my GM products for now because they are still a very Fine product. Don't forget that there is a reason that the Silverado has been Truck of the year Three years in a row. However, there is work to be done and if this is what is expected as a minimum for the next GM truck then the future is very bright for us!

Ya know, all these people who rationalize buying a Japanese vehicle by saying "it was built here in the states" or other statements along those lines are just fooling themselves.
These vehicles (and some of their components) may be ASSEMBLED in the U.S., but that is it.

If they would let themselves realize that the majority of the money a Japanese automaker makes from a sale of an American assembled vehicle goes back to Japan, maybe they would rethink their decision.

You are exactly right.

Originally posted by HuJass
Ya know, all these people who rationalize buying a Japanese vehicle by saying "it was built here in the states" or other statements along those lines are just fooling themselves.
These vehicles (and some of their components) may be ASSEMBLED in the U.S., but that is it.

If they would let themselves realize that the majority of the money a Japanese automaker makes from a sale of an American assembled vehicle goes back to Japan, maybe they would rethink their decision.

Did you not read what slt wrote? Scroll up and look. Yeah, Japan might make money off of sales, but think about all the jobs they are producing here. With unemployment like it is and all of our "American" companies selling out and taking jobs to other countries, I think it's pretty damn cool that a foreign company is losing some money to keep jobs over here.

Either way, as morb|d said... give "credit where credit is due." And this is a fine truck.

I'm not knocking American companies at all, I'm just pointing out how great of a product Nissan is putting out. If you can't stand that, blow me.

Maybe the big 3 should try to take over the Japanese car market, and start building factories over there. Flood Japan with American cars, trucks and suvs, lol. ok crazy but its an idea.:D

I'm old school, if its made by honda, nissan, or toyota, I dont want it.:p

Here's some "American Made" news for contrast ...

http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=7156

At least Ford's profit stays in the US :rolleyes:

....and how about this quote:

The latest procurement news from Ford virtually completes the process of standing Henry Ford’s wisdom on its head. By 2010, the company plans to increase its purchases of Chinese-made export parts from $1 billion annually to $10 billion. And none of this output will be consumed in China. You can almost see Philippine, Mexican, Indian, and other third world hopes of industrializing through exporting auto parts evaporating – to say nothing of the impact on American autoworkers.

... from this article.

http://www.tradealert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=858

Originally posted by poSSum
Here's some "American Made" news for contrast ...

http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=7156

At least Ford's profit stays in the US :rolleyes:

....and how about this quote:



... from this article.

http://www.tradealert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=858

wait, you're saying we shouldn't just burry our heads in the sand and "BUY 'MERICAN"??? :confused:

Originally posted by IMPALA64
Maybe the big 3 should try to take over the Japanese car market, and start building factories over there. Flood Japan with American cars, trucks and suvs, lol. ok crazy but its an idea.:D I with you, but one MAJOR thing is in the way, the Japanese are so much more loyal than us americans. They wouldn't buy our products, despite them being as good or better. Yet the stupid american will buy an import because Consumer Reports was biased towards the import and said it was better. :rolleyes:

Cept when up until a year or two ago, the parts on a buic century in a 2001 model, are the sames ones that were used in 1996?

Up until lutz came to GM, and I had a choice when buying my car.....

There it was on the parking lot, a 2002 Chevy Camaro SS Red - $26,000 after rebates.


Bought mine used, a 93 Chevy Camaro Red, when 90% of hte interior look/feel is the same, and besides the engine, lt1/ls1, I get a neon looking front clip, just stretched out.

when in the same time, 10 years, the camry or whatever had more redesigns than gm did for all their cars.

The only GM company that had descent interiors were the Oldsmobile and Caddies,

I sat in my friends 2001 Cavalier, and I would not be able to tell a damn bit of difference from an 86 cavalier.

And this new titan, defnitely going to give it a test drive, and hopefully pick one up. either that or hte nfew F-150. Dont get me wrong, I love My Camaro and our Caprice's, but unless you can afford a Caddie, there is nothing great about GM right now besides the Vette. The only hope is the GTO, CTS, and the new caddie cars. Admit it, if it were not for Lutz, gm would be way downhill, the only way GM staying afloat is selling cars with rebates, and more rebates.