Should GM bring back the "Stingray" name on the C6?

Do you think Gm should replace the Z06 designation with "Stingray" or maybe name their $100,000 Super-Vette the "Stingray"?

Should the "Grandsport" be brought back as well?

Not that Stingray brings back bad connotations of the past, but I think they should leave certain names dead. For example “the Judge” name on the GTO.

I wouldn’t mind “Grand sport”, but I think it would be cool if they came up with a totally brand new name for this new Super Vette. It will be the best Corvette ever made, I think it deserves a new name.

I think Stingray sohuld be left in the past.

I think it's a cool name, but I also think that too many names coming back take away from some things in the past that they represent...

Add to that "Stingray" was every Corvette from 1963-1967 (Sting Ray) and 1969 to 1976 (Stingray)...

I didn't really note anything special about the car...

No, ZL1 will work just fine.

Stingray should remain dead, but I do like ZL1. Of course, I kinda like "Blue Devil"..................but that will never make it.

Originally posted by Schismblade
No, ZL1 will work just fine. Only if it gets an aluminum big block.

I dont think it should be brought back. I think Z06 and ZL1 work fine.

It's logical that ZL1 designation could be the successor to the ZR1 but I think an actual name like "Grandsport" or "Stingray" would be a cool change.

Im surprised GM never brought out a limited edition Grandsport model on the current C5 like they did on the C4. Maybe GM is holding back the GS name for the production Super-Vette version of the C6.

say it with me..

I got a 500 HP Viper

I got a 500 HP Ford GT

I GOT A 600 HP STINGRAY CORVETTE

says more than just ZL1..though its something that could be on the cowl...and better than just saying ZL1...
ZL1 soulds close to ZR1 to me..AWSOME cars but something like a Stingray name is awsome :D
Stingray sounds good :)

imo, i htink the "super vette" should be called ZL1, just because that was like an awesome vette in and of itself, and i just don't know if grand sport or stingray is worthy enough to be on a 600+ hp beast
and, z06 works fine for me, don't change that:)

What about the ZR-1 name?

Originally posted by AdioSS
What about the ZR-1 name?

Only if they bring back a OHC V8 motor to put in the car.

I also think the stingray name should be left dead. The ZL1 name sounds a lot more modern and fits the car better.

ZL1 actually goes back to the 60's and while Stingray says "old school" there have been more recent Stingray's than ZL1's. ZL1's were also aluminum big blocks, so unless GM is dropping in the modern day equivalent of an aluminum rat motor (the current "reissued" ZL1 displaces 454 c.i.) then ZL1 should not be used on an LSx based C6, inspite of how "cool" it sounds.

Keep both names in the past where they belong.

I had though of that idea especialy with the C3-C4ish styling of the rear. But GMs alerady got a couple of big names coiming back at this time. They dont need to add to the list.

I think ZR1 would be a better name than ZL1, ZL1 would be better name for a 7.0L or Big Block Vette.

I wouldn't be against a new name like ZT1 (the T is for turbo;) )

or maybe another ZR (ZR3, ZR7, or ZR8?)

What about Corvette SS? :D

If we're to look at history, Grand Sport would be the best name for a snake-killing Vette. The original Vette GS's (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fmpthemad/corvette/2gsport.jpg) were designed to counter (and beat) the Cobras. The Stingray designation refers to body style more than any engine options. From the pictures I've seen of the C6, I think "Stingray" (one word) would be a good fit for it across the line. I suppose if GM was to offer it as a name for a certain model of Vette, than I'd be okay with it. It's a great name, and should be used again. It didn't fit any of the late C3s through C5's looks-wise though.

The Corvette SS would be a horrible name. Why name a car after a huge racing failure from 1957 (http://www.ecomcity.com/1957_Chevrolet_Corvette_SS_Racer_sml.jpg)? (BTW, a magnesium body and heat don't mix well)

I wouldn't have a problem with ZL1. GM's already reissued LS1/LS6/LT1 etc., so why not. All of those had little to nothing in common with their forebearers. Plus, the modern ZL1 will likely put it's forebearer to shame based on performance.

Other suggestions:

Mako Shark (http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2001/n16/lapin/800/ku-01.jpg) - Awesome Vette concept from the late early 60's that led to the 63 bodystyle. Concept had a 427 w/ 655hp ( :eek: ) labeled ZL1.

Or maybe take a page from Ferrari and call the super-Vette "Zora" (http://totalcar.index.hu/images/tortenelem/corvette/galeria200/corvette_08.jpg).

As far as naming the new super vette- I would go with L88. Chevy built only around 216 of these 600hp monsters from 67-69. They had no radio or a/c to save weight. The car could be ordered from dealers. The story goes only 2 ZL1 corvette's were built in 1969. This same engine went into some Camaros.

From a marketing point of view the Stingray's name recognition is too great to leave dormant. But to use the name it must be done correctly. The fact that the Stingray, GTO and Chevelle names sat unused for so long points out one of GM's weaknesses-marketing.
A company should capitalize ( or in GM's terms "leverage") on its core products-not ignore them.

Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
I wouldn't have a problem with ZL1. GM's already reissued LS1/LS6/LT1 etc., so why not.

I thought LS1 was never used before?

Zora would be cool. StingRay would be cool too.
ZL1 should only be the name of the engine.

I don't care what it's called, I just think it's about time GM stepped up to battle with the top sports cars in the world. And at the estimated price of only $100k, it will remain the best bang for the buck sports car in the world!

:bow: :cool:

How about TigerShark


Z28Wilson & Sixer-Bird, weren't the old engines called "LT-1 and LS-6" not LT1, LS6?

Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
I wouldn't have a problem with ZL1. GM's already reissued LS1/LS6/LT1 etc., so why not. All of those had little to nothing in common with their forebearers. Plus, the modern ZL1 will likely put it's forebearer to shame based on performance.The problem with that is GM has already "reissued" ZL1 in the form of a limited edition 454 c.i.d. aluminum big block. Unless they're planning on dumping that motor into a special edition C6 I think that perhaps they should just stick with Z06. (or Z07? ;) )

Originally posted by Z28x
Z28Wilson & Sixer-Bird, weren't the old engines called "LT-1 and LS-6" not LT1, LS6?

Well, if we're going to split hairs....:D From the literature that I've read, they've been used with and without the "-" before the number. I think the hood badging used the dash, but the literature didn't.

Z28Wilson: You're correct, LS1 is not a reissue. ZR-1, LS2, LS4, LS5, LS6, LS7 would be though. (if GM uses them again)


jg95z28: I would imagine that if GM does use the ZL1 designation in a production car they'd rename the crate engine to distinguish the two. I really think GM has been itching to use the ZL1 name on something though.

Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
jg95z28: I would imagine that if GM does use the ZL1 designation in a production car they'd rename the crate engine to distinguish the two. I really think GM has been itching to use the ZL1 name on something though. I think they would piss off some people if they did that. Could you imagine how upset someone that shelled out $20K+ for a limited edition, one of 200 sequentially numbered ZL1 aluminum big block would be if all of a sudden they renamed the block just so they could name a Corvette production car ZL1? Sure Z06 buyers shell out a lot of money, however we're talking about people that spent $20K just for a crate engine. Many of these people are big time GM customers when it comes to engines and aftermarket GM parts, these people spend several hundreds of thousands of dollars each and every year.

I think that's a more important customer base for the general, don't you agree?

I see what your saying. But to me, that name on a uber-Vette IMO would probably be more beneficial to GM. Changing the name of the crate engine wouldn't have to mean changing it to something totally different either. Maybe "ZL1 Classic" or somesuch.

Zora would be a cool name.


Also, wasn't there a fair amount of people who thought that the last Grandsport was rather undeserving of the name?

Personally, I think that ZL1 shouldn't be used on ANYTHING that doesn't contain a ZL1 engine.

No offense to GMMG.

I agree with STARS1010

my vote is for ZR1

Originally posted by Magnum Force
my vote is for ZR1

I agree, but only for a limited production very high performance model

I think the "Blue Devil" code name would make a cool name for the car.

Originally posted by Z28x
I think the "Blue Devil" code name would make a cool name for the car.

:lol: That would piss some UNC Tar Heel fans off

Originally posted by DarthIROC
:lol: That would piss some UNC Tar Heel fans off

:lol:

I was thinking the same thing!


Well, Chevy should already have a bigger share of the DENVER market since they now offer both the Colorado and the Avalanche !!!

How about ZR6

Z - Because all the other recent special Vettes used it.

R - To embrace its racing heritage.

6 - Because its a C6.

It also suggests a step (or two) above "Z06" and "ZR1".

:confused:

Originally posted by jg95z28
How about ZR6

Z - Because all the other recent special Vettes used it.

R - To embrace its racing heritage.

6 - Because its a C6.

It also suggests a step (or two) above "Z06" and "ZR1".

:confused:

I like it! :thumb:

I wonder if they'd consider it too confusing, though, with ZR1 and Z06 already existing... when someone said "ZR6" they might say "ZR1? Z06?" ;)

But, anyway... I like that idea!

I don't think they should revive the Stingray name, or the ZL-1. How about the "Collector's Custom Anniversary Grand Super Sport Mako Super Happy Fun Time Special Edition Corvette." :D

im w/ jg95Z28 that makes sense and has a little ring to it

Originally posted by Darth Xed
I like it! :thumb:

I wonder if they'd consider it too confusing, though, with ZR1 and Z06 already existing... when someone said "ZR6" they might say "ZR1? Z06?" ;)

But, anyway... I like that idea!
Originally posted by 97blueZ28
im w/ jg95Z28 that makes sense and has a little ring to it Actually, I like it better every time I hear it...

Corvette ZR6 :D

The only odd thing is that I pulled that out of my butt when I started typing, with no previous thought what-so-ever. How much is GM paying their product "naming" consultants? :p

I like ZR1 myself. GM always resuses names and RPOs.

ZR1s were the fastest of the C4's--so there is some consistency.

Hate Stingray!!! boo! Alot of those ugly C3 Vettes from the 70's had Stringray attached to it and it did not mean a damn thing.

Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
Well, if we're going to split hairs....:D From the literature that I've read, they've been used with and without the "-" before the number. I think the hood badging used the dash, but the literature didn't.

Z28Wilson: You're correct, LS1 is not a reissue. ZR-1, LS2, LS4, LS5, LS6, LS7 would be though. (if GM uses them again)


jg95z28: I would imagine that if GM does use the ZL1 designation in a production car they'd rename the crate engine to distinguish the two. I really think GM has been itching to use the ZL1 name on something though.

LS1 is TOO a reissue---maybe it was never used on Chevy but Pontiac used it on a 455--(early 70's cant remeber the specific year) course most people don't know this but us Pontiac freaks! :D

Originally posted by jg95z28
How about ZR6

Z - Because all the other recent special Vettes used it.

R - To embrace its racing heritage.

6 - Because its a C6.

It also suggests a step (or two) above "Z06" and "ZR1".

:confused:

Didn't they have a ZR6 S10? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by AdioSS
Didn't they have a ZR6 S10? :rolleyes: :lol: I think you're right! :lol: Oops! I had better not quit my day job yet. :lol:

Originally posted by AdioSS
Didn't they have a ZR6 S10? :rolleyes:

Did they really?

I know ZR2 (I owned one)

and ZR5...

What was ZR6 on an S-10?

Yeah I remember the ZR2... maybe we're just imagining it.

I still think Chevrolet Corvette ZR6 sounds cool.

Anything but ZL1. The car doesn't deserve it unless it has an aluminum big block. :p

there is no ZR6 S-truck the ZR5 is the 4x4 crew cab version of the ZR2 no ZR6

I was close then.

I did a search for ZR6 and found this interesting thing http://www.pleasurecraft.com/60.html

Totally unrelated (or is it? ;) :D :p ) but still cool nonetheless :thumb: :cool: