94 Z28 Vs Porsche Boxster

Alright, it was the first kill in a few weeks. I got to a red light and noticed a red sporty car a few cars up, and figured hmm here’s a chance to play some. So the light turns green and it takes me several miles of road to catch up to it, because it was zipping thru traffic at over 85 in a 45 :eek:. So I catch up to him at a red light and as he was slowing down, I got in front of him, the light turns green before I could fully come to a stop so I start driving at a medium pace, waiting for him to try to blow bye me. I knew he would because he was another one of those rich guys with a small Weiner in a Porsche trying to act hardcore:lol: . So he try’s it like I suspected, I let him get to my door then I punch it, and he gets further and further and further back in my mirror. I then stop it at 100 or so, and he does the good old fly-by. That was today’s action, hope you enjoyed.

boxters arent a whole lot to worry about...good kill

nice still waiting for my first porsche kill:death:

W3rd, guy who buys a boxter is compensating for something... now a 911 on the other hand, that shows class. Good kill nonetheless.

boxsters obviously aren't the best value, but they are nice cars and decent performers. take a look at the scca solo II national championships. both the base boxster and the boxster s are top choices in their class.

with that said, nice kill and yes, a lot of those boxster guys are arese

Originally posted by not cbring
boxsters obviously aren't the best value, but they are nice cars and decent performers. take a look at the scca solo II national championships. both the base boxster and the boxster s are top choices in their class.

with that said, nice kill and yes, a lot of those boxster guys are arese

just curious, but why do you feel the need to bring a car's handling into the thread when a german car gets its ass kicked in a STRAIGHT LINE?

the boxter handles well and my little brother's car gets killer gas mileage. on the street they both get pwned. regularly. :p

Originally posted by CamaroGuy22
Alright, it was the first kill in a few weeks. I got to a red light and noticed a red sporty car a few cars up, and figured hmm here’s a chance to play some. So the light turns green and it takes me several miles of road to catch up to it, because it was zipping thru traffic at over 85 in a 45 :eek:. So I catch up to him at a red light and as he was slowing down, I got in front of him, the light turns green before I could fully come to a stop so I start driving at a medium pace, waiting for him to try to blow bye me. I knew he would because he was another one of those rich guys with a small Weiner in a Porsche trying to act hardcore:lol: . So he try’s it like I suspected, I let him get to my door then I punch it, and he gets further and further and further back in my mirror. I then stop it at 100 or so, and he does the good old fly-by. That was today’s action, hope you enjoyed.

Good kill! Next time they try the flyby, rape them again and again until they give up. One night in my dad's '94 Z28, there was about 5 or 10 riced out Accords, Civics, Talons, etc. behind me on the freeway. They all tried to do flybys on me one at a time. I pummeled them all one by one, over and over until they all gave up. It was one of the funniest nights of my life.

Originally posted by jthomas
just curious, but why do you feel the need to bring a car's handling into the thread when a german car gets its ass kicked in a STRAIGHT LINE?

the boxter handles well and my little brother's car gets killer gas mileage. on the street they both get pwned. regularly. :p

it was in response to:
W3rd, guy who buys a boxter is compensating for something

We know, we know, the Boxter will own us all in the twisties!!!!! :rolleyes:

not cbring, haven't you realized yet? If a car isn't fast in a straight line, its worthless.

Originally posted by Oracle17
not cbring, haven't you realized yet? If a car isn't fast in a straight line, its worthless.

Nobody said that. It's just when the race is a drag race, the twisties have nothing to do with that. Boxsters like this should not race in a straight line with a faster car and expect to win. If they want to challenge a car to a road race then so be it. It is a ricer excuse to say, "my car will beat yours in the twisties" after they just got owned in a straight line.

I do belive F-Bodys get similar g's on the skip pad and roadcourse times as Boxsters. Maybe not?.... i am away from home so i dont have any recources at the moment. But for the money i do belive you could buy a C5, or a M3 that would wax the boxster in any driving condition. Thats just my opinion. I do love Porsche Carrera's however, they are bad-ass cars.

Steve, i would have kept on pummeling him, but i got that 108 limiter. :o

Thanks for all the good kill comments!

i made a response to what i felt was a very inaccurate statement. i even threw in the obligatory "nice kill" to not come off as a h4t3r!!!!1

i was, in no way, comparing it to the almighty camaro.

Originally posted by CamaroGuy22


Steve, i would have kept on pummeling him, but i got that 108 limiter. :o


He tried to race you past 108:eek:. That is fast on the streets. My fly by kills were from 60 to about 100 each time. My car has a 120 mph limiter. I always shut down a race by about 110 though.

Originally posted by not cbring
i made a response to what i felt was a very inaccurate statement. i even threw in the obligatory "nice kill" to not come off as a h4t3r!!!!1

i was, in no way, comparing it to the almighty camaro.

Huh? I wasn't criticising you at all if thats what you are getting at.

I personally hate the statement, well in the twisties i will blah blah blah.

Who here races in the twisties? Hardly anybody, not many car owners actually race in Auto X.
Who here races in straight lines? Just about 100% of the people on this forum.

That is just my opinon.

And no the Camaro is not almighty, its just better than the Boxster :p

Originally posted by Steve Y
He tried to race you past 108:eek:. That is fast on the streets. My fly by kills were from 60 to about 100 each time. My car has a 120 mph limiter. I always shut down a race by about 110 though.


Yeah, most people try to race me past 108, i dont know why? By that point in the race i am usually multiple car lenghts ahead. In most of my races i hardly ever have any competition...not because my car is so great, just because the local ricers suck even worse than i do. I always shut down at around 105.

i never said anything about the twisties. again, regarding my initial post,

Originally posted by not cbring
it was in response to:
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W3rd, guy who buys a boxter is compensating for something
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Originally posted by not cbring
i never said anything about the twisties. again, regarding my initial post,

I never said you did lol, i was just telling the board how my opinions on the twisties:lol:

this thread = TEH weird!!!!!1

Porsche Boxters suck. Period. I used to have to evaluate competitor vehicles when I was an engineer for GM, and the boxter I test drove was noisy, not very quick, and didn't handle all that well. I was not impressed at all.

Dan

Originally posted by stereomandan
the boxter I test drove was noisy, not very quick, and didn't handle all that well. I was not impressed at all.

did you expect it to be quiet? It's a porsche for crying out loud! and how is 0-62 in 5.7 slow? I know it's not as fast as an LS1 but it certainly isn't a slouch.

Originally posted by phrozen
did you expect it to be quiet? It's a porsche for crying out loud! and how is 0-62 in 5.7 slow? I know it's not as fast as an LS1 but it certainly isn't a slouch.

I see more like 0-60 in 6.0 Seconds, quarter mile 14.6@98? for the Boxster.

Looks like it does good in the skip pad..... 93 G's:eek:

Go drive one and you'll see what I mean. Noise is subjective. This type of noise was not a good noise. It was a unrefined, whiny noise. Not what I expected from a Porsche. The ride was harsh and rattly. It didn't hold a candle to the S2000 that I evaluated. I couldn't stand the engine in the S2000 however. It was all low torque, and required extrememly high revs to get anything out of it. The steering and the brakes on the S2000 were unreal though.

Specs on a car, and driving it in person are two different things. Go test drive one and you'll have a better idea of what I mean.

Oh yeah, and skid pad is mostly based on tires. It doesn't mean that the Porsche has the best stock suspension setup. It does have a lot of potential.

0-60 does not feel near to 5.7 on a boxter. I believe 6.0 or higher.

Dan

Dan, did you drive the S or the base model?

If you drove the base model then yeah that thing isn't that fast but I have a hard time believeing the S pulling 258/229 on a frame that light would be slow. Also, my original number of 0-62 in 5.7sec was pulled from the porsche website. If you have numbers that say otherwise please show me, I don't like being wrong.

aaaaaaahaha, a buddy of mine raced a porsche boxter some time ago, when he still had his integra GSR. The GSR had an intake and header, and pulled a base model boxter on the interstate. It was some funny S***.

This is what porsche has to say about the Boxster:

Perfectly positioned between the cockpit and rear axle, the engine develops 225 hp (SAE) from a displacement of 2.7 liters. Maximum torque of 192 lb-ft is available at 4,700 rpm. Equipped with a five-speed manual gearbox, the Boxster combines an eager throttle with optimized cylinder charging to reach 62 mph (100 km/h) in just 6.4 seconds. Maximum speed is a remarkable 157 mph (253 km/h).

I do not belive i raced the S, not sure, didnt really bother to look at the trunk. But it was a drop top.

you could have raced either one and still beat them. The Boxster s is only slightly faster than a z28 with an automatic.

Originally posted by phrozen
Dan, did you drive the S or the base model?

If you drove the base model then yeah that thing isn't that fast but I have a hard time believeing the S pulling 258/229 on a frame that light would be slow. Also, my original number of 0-62 in 5.7sec was pulled from the porsche website. If you have numbers that say otherwise please show me, I don't like being wrong.

I don't remember. It's been a few years now.

Dan

*sigh.*
First off it's good when you kill a Porsche, but not any better than killing any other car. A Porsche is a performance vehicle division, and you should give them props for not going big ugly SUVS (except the Cayanne) out of it. At least their only SUV sells well and is performance-oriented.
Secondly, why bring up the small wang excuse? "Porsche drivers are just trying to make up for something."
It goes both ways, y'know. F-bodies have big engines. Maybe that's trying to make up for something? What about somebody who has a Duramax diesel engine in his truck to tow his boat...his big engine must make up for something, right? :rolleyes:
a man's sexual organ's size is predetermined and has nothing to do with what kind of car he drives. The car he decides on is influenced by many things; friends, magazines, movies he's seen, etc. Honda guys can call V8-guys "small" cause "the extra 4 Pistons MUST be making up for something, right?"
:rolleyes:

Also, it's not the "twisties" as ricers do put it. It's a road course. Road courses consisting of straight and turns and such, not just windy-ass roads for no reason. I assume most performance-bought F-bodies are bought for the intended straight line performance, and some Porches, too, but Porsche knew people weren't going to slap on a beefy rear end and run down the 1/4. instead they want a combination of some straight line performance (not as much as a full-out straight-line-performer), handling, refinement, luxury and style. Obviously if it's an entry level model, it cannot be super fast as well as refined and all that other good shiz for such a cheap price. Instead of concentration on one thing, straight-line performance for cheap, like the F-body's concept, it blends together everything in one, but since it has more, it can't offer as much in the performance area.
UGh I hope that makes sense :)

Originally posted by mr00jimbo
What about somebody who has a Duramax diesel engine in his truck to tow his boat...his big engine must make up for something, right? :rolleyes:

Nah, guys that have Duramax diesel engines have small wangs......






Alrite, j/k....shoulda shut my mouth :)

Originally posted by mr00jimbo
*sigh.*

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: and :rolleyes: to your entire, newbie post.

are you sure you are not generalizing just as much as the ppl that you rail against? do you really know why ppl buy fbods and porsches, or are you only projecting onto the owners of these cars the reason why you might consider owning one? you must be, because you certainly didn't get it right for me.

and yes, imo killing a porshe IS better than killing most other cars. reason 1- it's a performance car with a performance image. reason 2- 80% of the porshe drivers that i have met are either posers, cocky bastards and/or pri<ks, which gives me GREAT delight in pwning their ass in front of god and everybody (especially their s.o.). that said, i have met some extremely cool porsche drivers. reason 3- it makes wanna-be porsche owners cry and make excuses when an fbody smacks one silly.

i think that about covers it.

Originally posted by mr00jimbo


Also, it's not the "twisties" as ricers do put it. It's a road course. Road courses consisting of straight and turns and such, not just windy-ass roads for no reason. I assume most performance-bought F-bodies are bought for the intended straight line performance, and some Porches, too, but Porsche knew people weren't going to slap on a beefy rear end and run down the 1/4. instead they want a combination of some straight line performance (not as much as a full-out straight-line-performer), handling, refinement, luxury and style. Obviously if it's an entry level model, it cannot be super fast as well as refined and all that other good shiz for such a cheap price. Instead of concentration on one thing, straight-line performance for cheap, like the F-body's concept, it blends together everything in one, but since it has more, it can't offer as much in the performance area.
UGh I hope that makes sense :)

F-bodies handle well, stop well and go well, especially for the price. Everybody seems to think they handle and stop like crap. That is simply not the case.

Bah. I beat a Cayenne S Turbo in my car a while back. It wasn't cool because I beat some big assed SUV, it was cool because the cocky bastage behind the wheel *knew* he'd beat me because he was in a Porsche. Unlucky for him, but I had the drag radials on that night, and proceeded to unleash the fury;)

I love my Camaros, but if someone said pick my new free car, a 2002 SS or a 2002 Boxter S ... I would have no trouble with the decision. sehr gut herr docter!

Originally posted by FastZinTennessee
Bah. I beat a Cayenne S Turbo in my car a while back. It wasn't cool because I beat some big assed SUV, it was cool because the cocky bastage behind the wheel *knew* he'd beat me because he was in a Porsche. Unlucky for him, but I had the drag radials on that night, and proceeded to unleash the fury;)

:bow: Right on!

I tried to race a Boxster S on PCH around a year ago. I really wanted to kick this guys ass because he had a women in the car and was totally trying to show off. Well, before we could race, a ****in truck which had been pulled over on the side of the road decided to pull out in front of me. I must have been going around 80 and had to stop pronto. I missed the truck by 1 foot, this was the scariest moment of my life! Ever since this happened, my front brakes are now C5's, much much better stopping power.

I never saw that porshe again.

I saw the truck a few miles up the road. I would have shot that guys tires out if I had a gun, no kidding. What a ****ing idiot.

Originally posted by jthomas
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: and :rolleyes: to your entire, newbie post.

are you sure you are not generalizing just as much as the ppl that you rail against? do you really know why ppl buy fbods and porsches, or are you only projecting onto the owners of these cars the reason why you might consider owning one? you must be, because you certainly didn't get it right for me.

and yes, imo killing a porshe IS better than killing most other cars. reason 1- it's a performance car with a performance image. reason 2- 80% of the porshe drivers that i have met are either posers, cocky bastards and/or pri<ks, which gives me GREAT delight in pwning their ass in front of god and everybody (especially their s.o.). that said, i have met some extremely cool porsche drivers. reason 3- it makes wanna-be porsche owners cry and make excuses when an fbody smacks one silly.

i think that about covers it.

Newbe? Hah! Wow, you killed a "cocky" ass Porsche driver so you should feel good. Oh, wait, aren't F-body drivers cocky, too? Every kind of car enthusiast can be cocky. Most Porsche owners I know are awsome people, not some pr!cks like you make them out to be. I have a feeling you guys run into the tiptronic Porsches driven by the soccer-moms that patrol the streets at 10 below the limit. This is what I hear from people all the time
"Okay so I have a performance car (Camaro Z28) with headers, exhaust, S-trim, 4.10 gears, 2800 stall and slicks. It is heavily modded. I raced a Porsche Boxster and smoked him, but neglected to see him giving me the thumbs up because I was too busy basking in my glory to look over. I just casually flipped him off and made him generalize all Camaro owners as the same.
I have beaten Mustang GT drivers who couldn't drive before, and gotten props for it, although I drive an "inferior Euro-trash POS VW econobox" right? :rolleyes:
Some Mustang owners are pissed about it and flip me off or hit the hazards, or whatever. This is when I say "That guy is a sore loser" isntead of "oooh 90% of all Mustang owners are losers who are just trying to make up for something they lack!"
How can the genetically predetermied size of a sexual organ determin whether or whether not a person will buy an entry level sports car and show it off? Do you also brag to your friends about the Escalade on 22" spinners whom you "raced"
"The Escalade was turning left, and I was going straight, and i SMOKED him too! Wow and he spent 10x more for his car than I did! yay!"
Not only import drivers have "ricer" attitudes, it seems. Hell, most people here wouldn't happen to know it's cheaper 9 out of 10 times to build up a Civic than a Camaro, even though the Camaro starts off in the 14s-12s and the Civic the 16-17s or so.
What people really don't get is people don't buy a Boxster and go "okay now i'm the sh!t and aint nobody can't touch me"
If somebody with a Boxster gets smoked, it's like ANY other car getting smoked. Having a Boxster has nothing to do with the driver's attitude and "lack of something down south"
And just for the record, I do not plan on buying a Boxster, and have never considered it before. I'm planning on an LS1 Trans Am Just because performance is more important to me than a sweet interior, German-bred road-handling, amazing build quality and the Porsche name. A Boxster may be slightly slower in the straight-aways but they're kick-ass performers for the road courses (Read; not the "twisties", the road courses.) and are a pretty good deal if you can find one for cheap.
Now if you want to go talk about picking on Cocky Porches, go run a GT3 or a Ruf or whatever, and tell me how fast Camaros are then! :)

Originally posted by mr00jimbo
blah blah blah

hmm... i don't recall ever writing most of what you seem to be giving me credit for in your response. and yes, everything i wrote in my post is absolutely correct from my experiences.

as for racing porsches- while i haven't raced any tuner cars, i have smoked my fair share of current 911s. ALL with the !soccer-mom mod.

this is the SECOND noobified post that you have created. if you want to debate my point-of-view or opinions, please go back and re-read my post and then respond to the contents there-in.

Originally posted by jthomas
this is the SECOND noobified post that you have created. if you want to debate my point-of-view or opinions, please go back and re-read my post and then respond to the contents there-in.

Just because he has a different opinion doesn't make it a "noobified" post. I in fact agree with what he has to say. I can't stand when people make comments like "he got that car to make up for a lack of size in another area." Honestly I've heard that comment directed towards Mustangs/FBodys more than anything, it's just plain stupid.


What kind of car/mods do you have anyways? A 911turbo is no slouch.

Originally posted by Bluntdogg
Just because he has a different opinion doesn't make it a "noobified" post. I in fact agree with what he has to say. I can't stand when people make comments like "he got that car to make up for a lack of size in another area." Honestly I've heard that comment directed towards Mustangs/FBodys more than anything, it's just plain stupid.


What kind of car/mods do you have anyways? A 911turbo is no slouch.

a different opinion on what?? :confused:

the second post is noobified because i never made most of the statements that he is claiming that i did. putting words in other's mouth is a noob tactic, to be sure. perhaps you need to go back and re-read my posts as well, as that i've never said anything about anyone's manhood anywhere in this thread. the first post was noobified by the fact that he was generalizing as much and the folks he was deriding.

i haven't raced a 911 turbo yet. i know better. n/a 911s are a pretty easy target, though.

While I agree with most of what you said....I gotta correct you on a couple things. The Boxster doesn't really have a sweet interior. Most of the rags deduct points from the car cause of the interior. Cheap and plasticky is how it looked to me. About the same quality as what my Vette has. Also, it appears as if the German build quality you're referring to was left out of the Boxster. The earlier models were nightmares from what I've read and the newer ones still have their problems. I've never driven one, but from what the mags say, it's very un-Porsche like in build quality.

Jason

Originally posted by mr00jimbo
Newbe? Hah! Wow, you killed a "cocky" ass Porsche driver so you should feel good. Oh, wait, aren't F-body drivers cocky, too? Every kind of car enthusiast can be cocky. Most Porsche owners I know are awsome people, not some pr!cks like you make them out to be. I have a feeling you guys run into the tiptronic Porsches driven by the soccer-moms that patrol the streets at 10 below the limit. This is what I hear from people all the time
"Okay so I have a performance car (Camaro Z28) with headers, exhaust, S-trim, 4.10 gears, 2800 stall and slicks. It is heavily modded. I raced a Porsche Boxster and smoked him, but neglected to see him giving me the thumbs up because I was too busy basking in my glory to look over. I just casually flipped him off and made him generalize all Camaro owners as the same.
I have beaten Mustang GT drivers who couldn't drive before, and gotten props for it, although I drive an "inferior Euro-trash POS VW econobox" right? :rolleyes:
Some Mustang owners are pissed about it and flip me off or hit the hazards, or whatever. This is when I say "That guy is a sore loser" isntead of "oooh 90% of all Mustang owners are losers who are just trying to make up for something they lack!"
How can the genetically predetermied size of a sexual organ determin whether or whether not a person will buy an entry level sports car and show it off? Do you also brag to your friends about the Escalade on 22" spinners whom you "raced"
"The Escalade was turning left, and I was going straight, and i SMOKED him too! Wow and he spent 10x more for his car than I did! yay!"
Not only import drivers have "ricer" attitudes, it seems. Hell, most people here wouldn't happen to know it's cheaper 9 out of 10 times to build up a Civic than a Camaro, even though the Camaro starts off in the 14s-12s and the Civic the 16-17s or so.
What people really don't get is people don't buy a Boxster and go "okay now i'm the sh!t and aint nobody can't touch me"
If somebody with a Boxster gets smoked, it's like ANY other car getting smoked. Having a Boxster has nothing to do with the driver's attitude and "lack of something down south"
And just for the record, I do not plan on buying a Boxster, and have never considered it before. I'm planning on an LS1 Trans Am Just because performance is more important to me than a sweet interior, German-bred road-handling, amazing build quality and the Porsche name. A Boxster may be slightly slower in the straight-aways but they're kick-ass performers for the road courses (Read; not the "twisties", the road courses.) and are a pretty good deal if you can find one for cheap.
Now if you want to go talk about picking on Cocky Porches, go run a GT3 or a Ruf or whatever, and tell me how fast Camaros are then! :)

Originally posted by mr00jimbo
*sigh.*
First off it's good when you kill a Porsche, but not any better than killing any other car. A Porsche is a performance vehicle division, and you should give them props for not going big ugly SUVS (except the Cayanne) out of it. At least their only SUV sells well and is performance-oriented.
Secondly, why bring up the small wang excuse? "Porsche drivers are just trying to make up for something."
It goes both ways, y'know. F-bodies have big engines. Maybe that's trying to make up for something? What about somebody who has a Duramax diesel engine in his truck to tow his boat...his big engine must make up for something, right? :rolleyes:
a man's sexual organ's size is predetermined and has nothing to do with what kind of car he drives. The car he decides on is influenced by many things; friends, magazines, movies he's seen, etc. Honda guys can call V8-guys "small" cause "the extra 4 Pistons MUST be making up for something, right?"
:rolleyes:

Also, it's not the "twisties" as ricers do put it. It's a road course. Road courses consisting of straight and turns and such, not just windy-ass roads for no reason. I assume most performance-bought F-bodies are bought for the intended straight line performance, and some Porches, too, but Porsche knew people weren't going to slap on a beefy rear end and run down the 1/4. instead they want a combination of some straight line performance (not as much as a full-out straight-line-performer), handling, refinement, luxury and style. Obviously if it's an entry level model, it cannot be super fast as well as refined and all that other good shiz for such a cheap price. Instead of concentration on one thing, straight-line performance for cheap, like the F-body's concept, it blends together everything in one, but since it has more, it can't offer as much in the performance area.
UGh I hope that makes sense :)


Ahh how about you get a big dose of STFU!

I was just kidding about the wang comment, obviously you only have 1 nut; or somethings wrong with your package to go on a rant like that. I only brought that comment up because i have seen several pics in peoples sigs in various car forums that play around with the joke that porsche owners try to cover up for something. Entirely a joke. SHUSH! That or go cry about it :cry: