NewbieWar 10-26-2003, 01:29 AM well, i was goin on the slow lane of a pretty busy street, wanted the non vaccant lane, but there was an evo, i put my blinker on and he stopped to let me in... (very nice of him) i knew he wanted to race, i pushed it to the speed limit cause a spot ive seen cops chill in the bushes was coming up... so i didnt exceed the limit, and as soon as gets free, he starts passing, i was like wow i cant let this happen, i cant let a ricer beat me, so i decide by the time his tail lights are at my mirrors, to hit it (hes probably got a second on me) and he floors up this hill, and i let off then punch the gas again cause i donno weather i really wanted to race him, but when i originally hit the gas and he was at my mirrors, i was like wow this is a joke i cant keep up... so i let off and he cuts in front of me and makes a left turn... i donno if this was fair... i know the evos are fast but do u think its a fair race if hes already passing me pretty good and his tail lights are at my mirrors?
do u think thats a fair fight expecally since my opti is about to die lol?
well im hope i coulda taken him if i was sure there wernt any cops around and i did floor it
whoa guy 10-26-2003, 02:00 AM beat by a ricer......... sigh.... im kidding. those things are quick from what i hear and he'll bust yer ass with awd..specially pullin up a hill.
94ZRiCeKiLr 10-26-2003, 02:37 AM EVOs are supposed to be quicker than LT1s. if he had the jump on ya too u SHOULDNT be able to catch him so dont feel bad...but look on the bright side....at least u dont drive a car with a 2 foot spoiler that sounds like a weedwacker.
NewbieWar 10-26-2003, 02:42 AM lol, heh i didnt give him chase anyway, he didnt get the pleasure of beating me :lol:
let me fix my 10 year old pure oldfasion muscle car before ur brand new technology based rocket tries racing...
nice that 10 years later everyone is catching up...
Patrick kelly 10-26-2003, 02:09 PM yup... 10 years to get 122cid to go faster than your 347 (aka 350)...
96LT14u2Nv 10-26-2003, 02:47 PM man why did u even bother messing with one of those things with a bad opti?and dont even bother with a boosted car from a roll, that boost really helps them up high
Grifter 10-26-2003, 03:27 PM I dont consider an Evo a Ricer, and I dont think it sounds like a weedwacker either. In fact you cant even really hear the exhaust, esp. if it has an Intake, all you can hear is the Turbo and BOV.
My friend has a Evo with a Cone Filter and ECU and I love that thing. It handles like a dream, and is quick. Dont get me wrong I'd take an SS, Z28, etc over it anyday, but I still like it.
I can understand how you would think it's a "ricer", whether your kidding or not, but I'm sure, by the sound of it, you've gotten a ride in one or driven one. For $30,000 it really is a deal, esp. if you plan on Auto Crossing with it.
NewbieWar 10-26-2003, 03:40 PM i couldnt hear the car over my idle :lol: so i donno if it sounds like a weed wacker
Oracle17 10-26-2003, 05:42 PM because any car badged with a japense name is a ricer. It doesn't matter if its a soccer mom in her honda oddessy, she is a ricer. If she wansn't she would buy a ford or a chevy
Sephiroth 10-26-2003, 07:21 PM Originally posted by Oracle17
because any car badged with a japense name is a ricer. It doesn't matter if its a soccer mom in her honda oddessy, she is a ricer. If she wansn't she would buy a ford or a chevy
A 'Soccer Mom' i know drives a Ford SUV. Dunno any 'Soccer Mom's' around here that drives EVO's/STI's.............anywho.:p
stereomandan 10-26-2003, 08:35 PM Sounds like a screwed up race to me by the way you describe flooring it, then letting off, then flooring it, then .....
Try again, and see what happens.
Dna
NewbieWar 10-27-2003, 01:25 AM yea i didnt really wanan race i was on my way to a gas station and my car is running real crappy too :(
Beanboy 10-27-2003, 08:34 AM Oracle17, what would you consider a Saturn Vue Redline owner then? After all it does have a Honda motor and transmission in it... "Powered by Honda" on a so-called domestic, tehe.
And what's this talk about 10 years to catch up? A 1994 Supra would be more than enough competition for a 1994 F-body.
Sad to think the fastest current vehicles from Japan are 4-door sedans. Don't get me wrong, I'd get a 4-door over a coupe any day from a practicality standpoint, but still, your fastest car in the line-up should be a coupe/hatch!
-B
FastZinTennessee 10-27-2003, 09:58 AM You might want to get a few mods before you go trying an Evo. Especially from a stop. It's not rice BTW.
NewbieWar 10-27-2003, 10:18 AM it might have been a wrx i didnt get a very good look at it
had the big lancer scoup in the front so i figured it was that.
but i didnt really give much of a chase
MrBonus 10-27-2003, 11:51 AM Originally posted by NewbieWar
lol, heh i didnt give him chase anyway, he didnt get the pleasure of beating me :lol:
let me fix my 10 year old pure oldfasion muscle car before ur brand new technology based rocket tries racing...
nice that 10 years later everyone is catching up...
Considering 4G63-powered Evolutions have been on the road since the early-90s everywhere else in the world but the USA (Not to mention the 4G63-powered 1G and 2G Eclipses), they're not exactly "catching up" 10 years later...
Oracle17 10-28-2003, 12:57 AM Originally posted by Beanboy
Oracle17, what would you consider a Saturn Vue Redline owner then? After all it does have a Honda motor and transmission in it... "Powered by Honda" on a so-called domestic, tehe.
And what's this talk about 10 years to catch up? A 1994 Supra would be more than enough competition for a 1994 F-body.
Sad to think the fastest current vehicles from Japan are 4-door sedans. Don't get me wrong, I'd get a 4-door over a coupe any day from a practicality standpoint, but still, your fastest car in the line-up should be a coupe/hatch!
-B
Personally i don't consider cars "rice". Just certain owners "ricers" for believing they know alot about cars when they know nothing. thats my personal definition. However many domestic owners do consider anything "***" or "nip" rice.
My co-worker just got a beretta, 2.8L with blue flames *white car* and a high spoiler for 600 bucks (runs nice, not a bad deal) and he thinks its the ****, believing it can take a managers mach 1. I would consider him a "ricer", not cause of the name of his car manufacturer, but cause of his mentality.
NewbieWar 10-28-2003, 08:20 AM heh i consider anyone trying to make 4 cylinder engines fast ricers...
and i think most people who do much body work to a mustang ricers too
PilotMan 10-28-2003, 02:56 PM I had some extra time the other day and so I went and drove a new EVO. I had to talk to the salesman into letting me drive it but he eventually gave in. He drove it first talking all sorts of smack. " there were 4 sales guys in the car and we took a 45 mph curve at 120!" He even told me that it was the fastest production car for sale in the US, yeah sure... When he drove it he tried to show me how fast it was and all he did was bog it horribly. He let me drive and he was totally impressed with my driving. The car seems to have much more power then the WRX, it doesn't need to be rev'd high to get it moving. It was very impressive, barely slower then my SS. The spray nozzle on the intercooler was cool but it sure won't be allowed at any drag strip. I always like helping my car turn with a little kick out to the the rear end and i missed that. My only concern is long-term realability. That's a lot of power from a four banger, i highly doubt a motor with 50,000 miles is going to have as much power as a motor that has 10,000 miles on it.
I then took the salesmen for a drive in my car and showed him what a real(naturally aspirated) motor feels like. There's nothing like picking that front end up a little bit and having the rear end kick out slightly between 2nd and 3rd. He loved the SS and asked me a million questions about it, yes he did eat his words about the Evo being the fastest production car.
By the way Salt Lake Guys, don't buy the white EVO at the down town dealership!
PNYKILR 10-28-2003, 03:58 PM If you chase you race. Can't win them all.
Steve Y 10-28-2003, 04:00 PM Originally posted by PilotMan
I had some extra time the other day and so I went and drove a new EVO. I had to talk to the salesman into letting me drive it but he eventually gave in. He drove it first talking all sorts of smack. " there were 4 sales guys in the car and we took a 45 mph curve at 120!" He even told me that it was the fastest production car for sale in the US, yeah sure... When he drove it he tried to show me how fast it was and all he did was bog it horribly. He let me drive and he was totally impressed with my driving. The car seems to have much more power then the WRX, it doesn't need to be rev'd high to get it moving. It was very impressive, barely slower then my SS. The spray nozzle on the intercooler was cool but it sure won't be allowed at any drag strip. I always like helping my car turn with a little kick out to the the rear end and i missed that. My only concern is long-term realability. That's a lot of power from a four banger, i highly doubt a motor with 50,000 miles is going to have as much power as a motor that has 10,000 miles on it.
I then took the salesmen for a drive in my car and showed him what a real(naturally aspirated) motor feels like. There's nothing like picking that front end up a little bit and having the rear end kick out slightly between 2nd and 3rd. He loved the SS and asked me a million questions about it, yes he did eat his words about the Evo being the fastest production car.
By the way Salt Lake Guys, don't buy the white EVO at the down town dealership!
That's what I hate about salesmen. They will tell you all sorts of lies just to get you to buy the product! This is not limited to car salesmen.
Short Round 10-28-2003, 04:36 PM Originally posted by Oracle17
because any car badged with a japense name is a ricer. It doesn't matter if its a soccer mom in her honda oddessy, she is a ricer. If she wansn't she would buy a ford or a chevy
hahahahaha
Short Round 10-28-2003, 04:39 PM newbie, did it look like this
evo
http://homepage2.nifty.com/tamurakun/photo/imege/evo-gta2s.jpg
or this
sti
http://www.edmunds.com/media/2002/paris/subaru/subaru.imprezza.sti.r34.500.jpg
NewbieWar 10-28-2003, 09:20 PM donno only saw front...
the haze in LA was too dark to see very far that day
damn fires
but yea i went to a hyundai, a few months ago i was looking to buy a tiburon, and the guy told me someone from farrari designed the exterior... lol
andol469 10-28-2003, 11:59 PM Originally posted by NewbieWar
heh i consider anyone trying to make 4 cylinder engines fast ricers...
and i think most people who do much body work to a mustang ricers too
I'm such a ricer. :cool: :lol:
NewbieWar 10-29-2003, 12:17 AM there is even a riced out camaro around here :cry:
it looks so bad its got the whole lancer spoiler thing goin... looks like crap
Beanboy 10-29-2003, 09:51 AM The Hyundai Tiburon's exterior was designed with help from Pininfarina, which did style the 456M (which the Tiburon gets some cues from) and a handful of other Ferraris. Sales guy was right on this point, sure he goofed on plenty of others, tehe.
-B
TMDZ28 10-29-2003, 10:21 PM Originally posted by Oracle17
because any car badged with a japense name is a ricer. It doesn't matter if its a soccer mom in her honda oddessy, she is a ricer. If she wansn't she would buy a ford or a chevy
this statement sounds like a :racist: statement. japanese cars is not ricers. however, some people that has japanese cars, drive it like a moron. most of all, soccer mom that drives an oddessy is certainly not a ricer.
:)
NewbieWar 10-29-2003, 10:25 PM its not racist, its just an opinion on design.
an engine of the same size 4 cylinder or 8 cylinder whether they are both 1.8l
the 8 cylinder will have almost double the torque the 4 cylinder will...
the design is just much better...
andol469 10-29-2003, 10:51 PM Originally posted by TMDZ28
this statement sounds like a :racist: statement. japanese cars is not ricers. however, some people that has japanese cars, drive it like a moron. most of all, soccer mom that drives an oddessy is certainly not a ricer.
:)
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Steve Y 10-30-2003, 12:26 PM Originally posted by NewbieWar
an engine of the same size 4 cylinder or 8 cylinder whether they are both 1.8l
the 8 cylinder will have almost double the torque the 4 cylinder will...
the design is just much better...
So you are saying two engines, both 1.8 liters, one a V-8 the other an inline 4, the V-8 will have double the torque?
NewbieWar 10-30-2003, 12:58 PM aproximatly, thats why v8's are used comonly in trucks
although most deisels are 6cylinders deisels already have a tremendous amount of torque
94GrayV6 10-30-2003, 01:11 PM Originally posted by NewbieWar
aproximatly, thats why v8's are used comonly in trucks
although most deisels are 6cylinders deisels already have a tremendous amount of torque
Umm no. Torque is based on displacement, not on number of cylinders...
When was the last time you saw a 1.8L V8? The smallest production V8 I've ever heard of was the DOHC 3.4 in the SHO a few years back.
Steve Y 10-30-2003, 01:21 PM Originally posted by 94GrayV6
Umm no. Torque is based on displacement, not on number of cylinders...
When was the last time you saw a 1.8L V8? The smallest production V8 I've ever heard of was the DOHC 3.4 in the SHO a few years back.
Exactly! Ferrari F40, 2.9 liter V-8. But this was a very low volume production car.
NewbieWar 10-30-2003, 01:39 PM not true bikes do use V8's and i know they dont use 2.9l engine
but i dont wanna argue cause i cant remember where i read that...
Steve Y 10-30-2003, 02:17 PM Originally posted by NewbieWar
not true bikes do use V8's and i know they dont use 2.9l engine
but i dont wanna argue cause i cant remember where i read that...
Really? I have only heard of crazy people swapping in 350 Chevy motors and such into bikes.
94GrayV6 10-30-2003, 09:54 PM Yeah Newbie, there aren't any production V8 motorcycles.
NewbieWar 10-30-2003, 10:05 PM yea there are... well i donno if its production
but the worlds highest rpm engine is a v8 in a motercycle at 19,000 rmps
NewbieWar 10-30-2003, 10:13 PM lol do a damn search w/ V8 and motorcycles and say that again...
heh i guess bmw is making a v10 that revs to 19000 (wow)
Butterfingers 10-30-2003, 10:59 PM Torque is based on displacement not the number of cylinders... In fact a 1.8 liter V8 would probably have less torque than a 1.8 liter 4 banger...
All trucks dont use V8's in fact alot of the big rigs you see use Inline 6 cyl engines that make 1500- 2000 lb/ft of torque.... because of thier size not the number of cylinders...
The main reason that trucks use V8's is to increase the DISPLACEMENT by adding cylnders.
and yes there are production V8 motorcycles... http://www.bosshoss.com/502.html
94GrayV6 10-31-2003, 12:07 AM I'm talking about the big companies. Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, etc. I guess you could consider Boss Hoss's as "production"...
Oracle17 10-31-2003, 12:24 AM Originally posted by andol469
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
I was, but your gonna find alot of people who agree with my original statement. Just like how some kids think all domestics suck...
NewbieWar 10-31-2003, 12:25 AM Did u see that i excluded big rigs, besides those are deisel... and those engines are enormous... at work the boss has a nice 84 (maybe 86 i forget) peterbuilt, custom truck had the last axel sawed off & added an extra axel to his trailer to compinsate for the weight.
i think this maybe what i ment to say,
a V8 will have more torque then a four cylinder of equal horsepower. instead of equal size.
NewbieWar 10-31-2003, 12:26 AM hrmm i dont really know much about motercycles anyway, just thats what my friend told me. about the v8 in the motercycle doing 19000 rpm's
NewbieWar 10-31-2003, 02:45 AM im definatly sure it was a wrx instead of an evo... sorry for the confusion
Steve Y 10-31-2003, 11:59 AM The highest redline for a production bike I have ever heard is about 13,000 rpm.
excal 10-31-2003, 12:38 PM ok so it was an WRX...
it must've been an STI.
those run 13.5s stock with a n avg driver..
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