IHI turbo! Test fitting it. Pics here

Hey, thought I would post up my pics of my set-up. Just test fitting it today and now to take it off for ceramic coating! Hoping to have it back by Friday!!!

Duane


Here I come BIG hp!! or should I say bigger ;) than last time anyway
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1320084

another
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1320087

How do I make the pics actually appear? :confused:

Duane

I dont think Ive ever seen pics on this board. I tried the IMG tags for you and it didnt work. I think its a no go.:rolleyes:

Thats a big a$$ turbo man.:cool:

duane, u should've bought 2 of those turbos .. to replace the 2 missing cylinders ;)

now remember.. u need to work on ur "headstart" skills .. cuz im throwin a little boost in the game too ;) except mine wont be giving no headstarts ;) that and our old friend the jug should make good friends in my cylinders...

silly rabbit .. supras are for car shows and stupid movies ;)

Originally posted by KA0S
Thats a big a$$ turbo man.:cool:

He he good for a lil over 600 wheel hp at around 23-25 PSI and if I want to crank it to 30 PSI (which I won't) it would be higher. :) Motor os only good til high 6's or 700 MAX ;(


Pics don't work that's ok. Thanks anyway dude.

Duane

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
duane, u should've bought 2 of those turbos .. to replace the 2 missing cylinders ;)

now remember.. u need to work on ur "headstart" skills .. cuz im throwin a little boost in the game too ;) except mine wont be giving no headstarts ;) that and our old friend the jug should make good friends in my cylinders...

silly rabbit .. supras are for car shows and stupid movies ;)

SO your gonna start now are ya :rolleyes: :p LOL

Ok lets set up something for next year. REMATCH at the track. I am aiming for the diff for next year. As long as the funds go my way. :confused:

Supras are for shows? You are talking more of the F&F style. You and I both know it may look good under the hood but it does have something to back it up.

I say rematch! ;)

I WILL be up there for next year as long as I get the diff. And IF I don't I think I may slap some on and try a crappy 2.0 60' tjust to race ya. That's all I will need next year :p

Duane

I want you to :bow: LOL

bring it on supra boi :p

i'll rematch u over and over till u go home crying :p

or even worse .. i'll find our drunken friends and make u listen to them for another half an hour for ur punishment :D :lol:

im in on this fun!! look out for a badass 2nd gen next year;) :D

BWHAHAHA.... u guys crack me up.:lol: :lol: :rolleyes: Count me in in two years. :think::thumb:

That was to funny... with those drunk guys.

Yup racing will be a little more fun with some bigger hp next year. Ne ed D S ooME SliCKS LOL

Duane

And diff

Ok Jason in on the fun?! See my race against the stang? BYE BYE STANG :D

Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
im in on this fun!! look out for a badass 2nd gen next year;) :D

dont worry jason .. i'll be looking out for ya .. in my rear view mirrors :p

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
dont worry jason .. i'll be looking out for ya .. in my rear view mirrors :p

ya you might see me in your rearview from time to time, but when were racing it'll be a whole different story:D

Originally posted by upgradedsupra
That was to funny... with those drunk guys.

Yup racing will be a little more fun with some bigger hp next year. Ne ed D S ooME SliCKS LOL

Duane

And diff

Ok Jason in on the fun?! See my race against the stang? BYE BYE STANG :D

haha, dont worry ill be faster then that thing, i think more then a couple people are gonna be surprised next year hehe:cool:

I'd hate to see Payams 60 ft times AFTER he gets rid of the drag suspension...2.3's he we come;) :D Sorry Payam, I couldn't resist buddy

Andy

Well not in my Supra but in my 4 door cutlass I pulled a 1.97 60' on 225x60x15 STREET tires ;) Normally a 198 ish

Duane

Lowered with 23 year old suspension ;)

haha ill be gunning for a 1.50ish :cool: :D

Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
haha ill be gunning for a 1.50ish :cool: :D

I guess you didn't here me Jason > I said STREET TIRES with that awesome 60' Not cheater slicks or drag radials. Plain old 225 skinny tires om my 4 door :p

Duane

no i understand. but im just saying next year ill be going for that:cool:

awww! Ok then:)

Originally posted by oldschool
I'd hate to see Payams 60 ft times AFTER he gets rid of the drag suspension...2.3's he we come;) :D Sorry Payam, I couldn't resist buddy

Andy

well ur obviously clueless about what ur talkin about andrew :p

when u have enough tire, u dont need drag suspension .. my car has TOO much tire .. that drag suspension is doing nothing but hurting me by wasting energy in pulling wheelies and causing my car to bog

do u see ANY of the fast cars with drag suspension ? nope .. none .. next time go check out rash or dons suspension . its tighter than a 20 year old virgin

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
well ur obviously clueless about what ur talkin about andrew :p

when u have enough tire, u dont need drag suspension .. my car has TOO much tire .. that drag suspension is doing nothing but hurting me by wasting energy in pulling wheelies and causing my car to bog

do u see ANY of the fast cars with drag suspension ? nope .. none .. next time go check out rash or dons suspension . its tighter than a 20 year old virgin

thats the dumbest thing ive heard lol they are all out racing suspension full out drag, they just got proper springs for their application but they are still drag springs and shocks. its all about application, you need a spring that will hold against 1300+hp its all about chassis design and optimal weight transfer and optimal traction:cool:

jason ..

they are just really really stiff drag shocks and springs ... do u see ANY body movement when don or glen launch ? nope .. why not ? partly due to the wheele bars .. but mostly because their suspension doesnt NEED to travel at all ... why ? cuz they got enough tire to back up their HP .. pulling wheelies and suspension travel just wastes energy .. if u cant spin ur tires, u need to STIFFEN up ur suspension .. go ask ANY racer ...

and hey .. if u wanna call me dumb .. well it'll be such a shamefull awakening to lose to a such a dumb person over and over all season (specially if this dumb person has a street suspension with 10.5w tires ;))

boy you sure are doing a LOT of talking on all the boards ... if u cant back up any of these statements u gonna be the laughing stock of EVERY ONE :cool:

Hey I thought this thread was all about me getting my ego bigger ;) :D

Duane

Hey Payam > WATCH OUT I am passing you


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See you at end of track LOL

All in fun dude!;)


Duane

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
jason ..

they are just really really stiff drag shocks and springs ... do u see ANY body movement when don or glen launch ? nope .. why not ? partly due to the wheele bars .. but mostly because their suspension doesnt NEED to travel at all ... why ? cuz they got enough tire to back up their HP .. pulling wheelies and suspension travel just wastes energy .. if u cant spin ur tires, u need to STIFFEN up ur suspension .. go ask ANY racer ...

and hey .. if u wanna call me dumb .. well it'll be such a shamefull awakening to lose to a such a dumb person over and over all season (specially if this dumb person has a street suspension with 10.5w tires ;))

boy you sure are doing a LOT of talking on all the boards ... if u cant back up any of these statements u gonna be the laughing stock of EVERY ONE :cool:

i said that was the dumbest thing ive heard not your DUMB. i know quite alot about drag suspension. and i know how racing chassis work. im not going to get into an argument on it here. stiff road handling suspension is way different then stiff drag suspension in a 1300hp car, and if you think those guys dont have traction issues, then i just dont know what your thinking.:think: as for me talking dont you worry ill have plenty to bring to the table next year. no more stock for me. my mildly cammed and intaked stock motor will be the least of the worries of next year. and where im going i wont need nos to make me look fast;) :D :cool: besides dont get too mad over the situation im just turning up the heat a bit under your feet:p

I'm not going to read the last few posts...too long. The old saying goes, as quoted by Warren Johnson (Payam, do some research as to who this is) "you can NEVER have too much tire..." Just look at all the fully tubbed bracket cars out there. The reason that a 7sec car looks different from an 11sec car is suspension limiters, amoung other things. Its like comparing apples to oranges.
Andy

Andy there is an issue of HP that comes into play, if you can't spin your tires without suspension, then if you put suspension on you'll be hurting your self by wasting all that energy into pulling whillies, its a simple energy conversion factor, & imagine how much energy & TRACTION you are loosing when those front tires hit the ground again? Yeah something to think about.

Originally posted by bunker
Andy there is an issue of HP that comes into play, if you can't spin your tires without suspension, then if you put suspension on you'll be hurting your self by wasting all that energy into pulling whillies, its a simple energy conversion factor, & imagine how much energy & TRACTION you are loosing when those front tires hit the ground again? Yeah something to think about.

you should look at the classes stock eliminator and super stock first. they will show you the most innovations in suspension for stock chassis cars. and guess what, they pop wheelies, BIG ones most of them. there is no simple energy conversion factor when calculating all that, its very complicated and complex with many different factors involved. they only way it will settle this, is to prove it, well next year you can side with payam and have his stiff roadhandling suspension with his 10.5 tire and we'll see what happens, and ill run my setup and we'll see what happens. thats the only way to settle this.

holy crap stock eliminator is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Originally posted by talos
holy crap stock eliminator is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ya and super stock is even more bling :cool:

jason and andy

what part of this dont u understand

if i cant spin my tires without any suspension travel, then WHY WOULD I NEED IT ? if it hooks and books without moving the front a bit .. then why should i waste energy bringing up all that weight ?

why doesnt don's car bounce around going down the track ? cuz its got STIFF AS HELL suspension

i was at harvey's shop looking at his 7 second race car .. the suspension on it was ROCK HARD .. i was jumping on the frame and the car wouldnt even move down

sure he has 1400 hp or whatever .. but he also has 16" wide tires .... i will have 600 hp and 11" wide tires ...

bouncy drag suspension is only for people who cant hook with the tire they have ..

last year ur own car would hook and book .. do u think u would get any better 60' times if u had drag suspension and pulled a wheelie ?? NO u would have a HIGHER 60' ..

if u dont understand the energy conservation law, go back and read ur physics 10 text book

You're not supposed to have "bouncy/sloppy" suspension in ANY drag car because that is considered wasted energy. For example, that’s why you don't set up a car with adjustable shocks in the rear to have a quick compression rate. This is why a lot guys leave their stock shocks in that have 50/50 ratio. In the front you want about a 90/10 ratio for drag...fast up slow down. Even 70/30 is better than stock. This is why when you jumped on Harvey's car it didn't go down easily. The bouncy/sloppy suspension is when is raises to fast AND drops too fast = wrong set-up. If it goes down slow, that means more weight is on the rear-tires. You want to plant the rears, not squat and waste energy.

I hope I'm making sense...I'm just regurgitating what a chassis guy told me.

Andy

its true, a 90/10 ratio is ideal give or take depending on track conditions 10 force required to raise the shock and 90 to compress it, a 90/10 feels super stiff going down cuz its set for weight transfer. your right on with what you heard andy

At the risk of stepping into the middle of things I think you guys are using one big brush on too many types of cars here.

Yes many lower class cars use 90-10's to hold the nose up because they are traction limited but faster stuff with better rear susp. usually would want the nose to settle quicker than that.
I think noting the launch of rule limited SS and stockers should be taken with a grain of salt because they are a special case.
A car that has a properly set up susp with the instant center in the right place does not normally need to reach for the sky.
Tire size verses traction is always a juggling act. Putting fueler tires on everything is not the answer as you use power up turning anything larger than what a well set up car needs.
My expertise is more left and right but we still had to get off the slow corners and make the cars put down the power.
Gerry

Hey hey now. This is about me :mad:


:cry: :cry:


About meeeeeeee:cry:

LOL

Duane

I have a cutlass to. Nice W31 ;)

Originally posted by upgradedsupra
Hey hey now. This is about me :mad:


:
Sorry.
To keep it about you, do you also run NO2 on that car?
I read an interesting article years ago about some turbo guys that drilled their compressor housing to point the NO2 directly at the blades of the compressor wheel. Supposedly instant boost, no waiting!
Do turbo guys still do this or was it a passing fad?
Gerry

I was just joking about me thing.

But no I don't use the nitrous although I have it ready to use. I have a fogger system and it was orginally for back up in case I didn't hit the 400RWHP mark. Then I hit 450RWHP with the boost alone so I didn't spray.Then I got bored so I now am going for a new goal with this bigger turbo of 550-600RWHP on boost alone. I also have an intercooler spray kit that sprays nitrous against the intercooler to cool the charge. That is a big hp gain as well.


To be honest I have not heard of people doing that before. I have a cutlass and was a domestic guy more so than an import guy therefore didn't know to much about turbos before 3 years ago. That is when I got my supra.

Still have cutlass to.

Ss I said Nice Cutlass (well it is a nice year and model) but where are the pics? Says forbidden.. :confused:

Duane

car domain is down right now apparently (for the past 3 weeks):rolleyes:

p.s. im not going to bother with this post anymore obviously you guys have your opinion and we have ours. so the only thing left to do is run it. good luck next year hookin, ill be waiting for ya at the finish line:D

Payam is right you bone heads ;) Pulling wheelies is wasted energy. You want to run the stiffest shock possible and still be able to hook. 90/10's are great off the line but going down the track they will slow you down as compared to a stiffer shock. On a car like mine that makes near 800 horse power on a 10 inch tire i need to transfer the weight to the rear tires to get the car out of the hole. However, I dont want to do i giant wheel stand either. I just want to bring them up enoughf so i can get the car to hook up. Rash's car is another example, 1800 horsepower on a 10.5W tire. Im sure youve all seen big wheel stands from his car, does he want that? Hell No. All his best runs were when he just brought the tires up a bit and carried them out so he could really get going. Payams car lauching this year was a waste of energy, he would pop the wheels up but didnt have enoughf power to carry the car foward, there was too much weight going to the rear tires, so obviously he needs to stiffen his suspension to get the car out of the hole.

There is too many book read racers and posers on here i suspect. You boys need to get off the computer and go out and race before you flap your gum because unless youve done it, you've got no idea.

Hey GTStang...I think you need to go and re-read my posts...bonehead. I'm just regurgitating what my best friends Dad has told me for years, someone who holds SEVERAL NHRA world records in Comp Eliminator. So before you go and call me a 'book reader," you should go back and read my posts because it just makes it look like you failed grade one english.

Andy

PS= I've been going to Mission since I was 10 years old...long enough to know alittle bit about it.

GTstang your being an arrogant idiot as ususal like eveyone on VS is saying these days, not impressive. im sure 30+ year gurus in suspension and racing technology know nothing compared to your emmense knowledge in racing. i suggest going to "real" races not SL's to find out a bit more of whats going on. i think your mis reading as usual, were not going wheelies vs no wheelies here. that was just an example of proper weight transfer its proper drag suspension vs road handling stiff suspension. ive been in real racing since i was 7 years old, ive been to 100's of races and i know alot of knowledgable people in racing. including the ET world champion in pro bracket, but he doesnt know anything. or how bout alf wiebe, west coast of this continent guru master for chassis and suspension. builds all sorts of chassis from pro to pro modified, but he doesnt know anything either cuz you guys are the real masters.

i listen to the experience and knowledge of people that have been doing this along time and have reserched and done the hard work and testing etc. and i try to pass it on to others as i learn it. i can garuntee if you gys took your cars to a chassis/suspension guy that knew what he was doing he could whip up something in your cars that i garuntee that would make them go faster every time and more consistant. and GT if you think your car is fine where its at then thats laughable, it spins going into third! get a hood on it and but some weight transfer in it to put more weight on the rear when your going down the track the added aerodynamics at that mph will greatly help your time and having the front a bit higher wont hurt to the point past the aerodynamic/traction issue. i think andy and i are on the same wavelength here, we understand what the suspension has to be to what the car needs to be optimal.

you keep talking about rash's car so lets tal about it. in everything there is a action/reaction when the motor makes power it is passed down the drivetrain into the tires to propel the car forward. the reaction of this is torque as a force applied to the car via a rotating motion. your misconception of stiff vs whats needed is the issue. when a car with that much hp transfers that much energy through the chassis. the chassis has to be really stiff as to not absorb some of the power. the spring "stiffness" is actually how many lbs ber inch is needed to appy the spring down 1 inch. those are specificlly made drag springs for his hp range and chassis. cuz the amount of force applied to the chassis and ground is so great the reaction is to deflect the power elsewhere if the tire wont slip. same applies to not enough traction, if the applied power is not enough to hook the tire with the proper weight over the wheels then the tire will not be able to hold therefore lost power into white nothingness. the amount of compression/rebound to spring rate is needed is the misconception. if rash had a softer setup his car woud bind and ground out. and it would be a retarded mess. hence why hes got wheelie bars also to keep the torque transfer in moderation. when you see a car wheelie its not lost power to the point of where you can come down out of it smoothly without getting off power or grounding your car out.

whem you wheelie its due to efficiency in the chassis and suspension delivering as much of the torque lb force to the wheels, when the wheels dont move cuz they can stick, thats the action. the reaction is trying to rotate the car on the wheel cuz in the law of action reaction the force needs to be somewhere. the result is a lifting force, because the amount of torque is greater then the energy required to lift up the car via the pivot point. payams little jolt with one inch under the wheels is headed in the right direction of what you need but its not "bogging" the car down. efficiently applying the power is more like it. but you guys can think what you want cuz you guys are the mojo here. like i said before do what you want ill do it the way the experts and physics dictate and well see who has a frustrating time getting their car to work. ;)

:D You go boyee

jason .. ever heard of splitting ur novel into paragraphs so others can actually read it without getting a headache ??

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
jason .. ever heard of splitting ur novel into paragraphs so others can actually read it without getting a headache ?? sorry ill do it just for you;)

I think what I said has been taken out of context. First of all i was only joking about the boneheads comment hense the ";)".

Secondly, Never did I claim to know more than any chasis guy. The only point i was trying to make is that a stiffer suspension will not necessarly hurt you as long as you can get the car to hook up. Pulling the wheels does not always=low 60' foots.

Jason- My car has 90/10's. 50/50's, Drag springs, traction bars, and so on. My suspension is set up as well as u can for drag without breaking the bank. I spun the tires into 3rd that night cause im trying to put 800 horsepower on a true 10 inch slick in crappy conditions on a S/L night. Show me a mustang around here thats making more power than me on the small tire and gets there car down the track better, there is none. When i came back the following week i didnt spin the tires in the day time but had other problems and only ran a 10.38@140, later the same night I ran 9.82@140 spinning and back pedeling the car. Whats my point...the point is that for you to say my suspension is crappy is out of line. I have talked to chasis guys before, they all say the same thing, its just too much power for the small tire especially in crappy conditions. The only thing i can add is an anti roll bar.

Now back to the topic at hand, Yes perhaps I did mis-read, in all honesty i didnt even read the whole tread, just the parts where you guys said Payam wont be able to hook with stiffer suspension and that an efficent chasied car will pull wheelies. My only point is that an efficent chasis=little wasted energy. Street car wise, look at Jason Gibsons 66 mustang, the car doenst pull the tires or anything, it just goes, yet just by switching to a 4 link and big tire hes knocked 7 tenths off his ET's. My Buddy Todds car will be the same way next year, will go much faster with a 4 link and big tire, no it wont do big wheelies anymore but it will be much more efficent and therefore be faster. My whole point is that drag suspension is not a nessicty to hook a car, big tires make up for a lot. And 90/10's and what not are not always the best cause there is such thing as pulling the wheels to much. A few Guys in the states in true street went from 90-10's to a stiffer front suspension and gained over a tenth.

I think Jason said it best, the only way is to go out and try. I can have my theory, and everyone can have there own but the only way to know for sure is to go out and try.

just to make things clear i never said your suspension was crappy, nor do i think that. i just think theres room for inprovement but that all comes with cost factors that i am very well aware of cuz i myself have a strict budget. all i due time i guess. time to mini tub it eh;)

just to make things clear this was never a wheelie vs no wheelie argument, there plenty of cars that do both out there. we were discussing optimal traction and suspension/chassis issues. i know well enough that you dont need to wheelie to get what you desire, like i said in my previous post its just one method to obtaining the ultimate goal of max traction and power transfer. 4 links, ladder bars, coil over setups, drag shocks and tire size to gear ratio, roll cages, sub frames, motor/tranny mounts, bushings all play parts in the matter in getting what is desired, like i said before its a plethora of comlicated geometry and calculations and factors that all combine to get what you need.

like i said and you agree on we just gotta try and see. but 600rwhp is a ton of power and a 10.5 wide slick isnt that much with roadhandling suspension with all my knowledge and beliefs in the matter and experiences along with others i dont think it will work and im sure of it the 60" wont be great and inconsistant, but hey its not my car and not my decision so all that can be done is watch and see what happens. i got my car and setup to worry about. all i care about is the goals i got set to achieve next year.

if i just so happen to get some kills along the way then yay me :cool: dont worry greg im not going for your 9 sec crown, although i am considering nos next year so it might just be an option if everything goes right:D i got to work with a half a ton more then your car:( no promises on that one;)

hey jason .. looks like u've been missing the whole point :p

I DONT WANT MY CAR TO BE A DRAG CAR NO MORE ... i dont care for the best 60' .. and i dont care for the best ET ...

i'll try to get it by putting the biggest tires i can fit (10.5w) but if that aint enough .. then so be it .. i'll live with my 1.80 60's and still go deeper in the 11s that i have and have a car that can be thrown around corners and all the other gravy

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
hey jason .. looks like u've been missing the whole point :p

I DONT WANT MY CAR TO BE A DRAG CAR NO MORE ... i dont care for the best 60' .. and i dont care for the best ET ...

i'll try to get it by putting the biggest tires i can fit (10.5w) but if that aint enough .. then so be it .. i'll live with my 1.80 60's and still go deeper in the 11s that i have and have a car that can be thrown around corners and all the other gravy

well i say good luck to you then! hope it works out the way you want it to:D

Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
well i say good luck to you then! hope it works out the way you want it to:D


good maybe this damn thread will finally end. :eek:

Originally posted by talos
good maybe this damn thread will finally end. :eek:

well your not letting it are you;) dont worry it was a "valid discussion" topic:D

STFU NO MOTOR BOY. :p

Originally posted by talos
STFU NO MOTOR BOY. :p

haha ya well you know what no motor means, it means that another one ill have to get, and theres no place to go but up:cool: look out now, im outta control:p

What Payam said here I agree with. Other goods points by blue 79 and bunker. As far as the Supra goes, I liked the last ones with the big factory spoiler. Any other are butt ugly. Nice turbo though, the Supra will need more upgrades than that to impress me, like upgrade the whole car into an f-body or vette rice boy. :p

I have a G bodsy in my cutlass and that is the SLOW car. ;)

The new Supra is cool but looks like a bubble. Everyone had their own opinions I guess.

My car will be making between 550-600 WHEEL power. Oh and on an inline 6. What do you have that you are so stuck on with power of the F body :confused:

I say anything over 400 wheel horse power on ANY car is impression but hey, that is just me.

Duane

pie??

go home...

until u know when and how to use the pie... :mad:

Originally posted by Drumhawk
What Payam said here I agree with. Other goods points by blue 79 and bunker. As far as the Supra goes, I liked the last ones with the big factory spoiler. Any other are butt ugly. Nice turbo though, the Supra will need more upgrades than that to impress me, like upgrade the whole car into an f-body or vette rice boy. :p

You are pretty funy REDNECK it seems. Rice boy? WTH is that? My car does not look like rice = stickers big wings and the such. I have a factory looking car (mostly) no stickers and no flash. oh > I have also have a domestic and import. As I said already.

My Supra KILLS vettes so why would I want one of those.? Far more hp and has the handling, style and comfort not to mention gas milage than the vette to. Don't get me started on that. The lines of the MKIII are very well thought out. The F&F has everyone thinking they are THE car. They are a nice car to but to each is own I guess. :rolleyes: You have been watchng to many movies dude :rolleyes:

What is pie? I don't know what your talking either

Duane

Duane,

Drumhawk has an interesting personality and once you get used to it, he is a good guy. I don't think he ment for you to take any of his comments so personally.

BTW: I think your car is pimp...so pimp in fact, I think I'll have to race you and beat you at Mission next year. Consider this a compliment that I have chosen you to loose to me;) You have far superior HP levels, but I will have the advantage of putting my power to the ground. :cool: :eek:

PS: for all those that are too serious, I'm just trying to have a little fun with the trash talking....I want to get my list of Kills off to a good start at the begining of the season ;) ;) ;) :p

Andy

I have even more pwer but I will have the hooking up part figured out next year (if all goes as planned;) )

what do you drive and what power and 1/4 mile are you running?

Duane

We have a match then for next year?! :D

lets just say I plan on going "wheels up" in 2004.

(in a 1996 WS6)

Originally posted by oldschool
lets just say I plan on going "wheels up" in 2004.

(in a 1996 WS6)

Even the 8 second supra barely lifts the tires. So tires in the air don't scare me:o ;)

Lets go with it! :D

Duane

mememememememe! i want in lol dont forget i want a piece of the pie next year:p

<random Supra joke>
What does a 400 hp Supra and a 700 hp Supra have in common?












They both run 12's. :p
</random Supra joke>

<more random-ness>
Where do Supras owners drive their cars the most?


on the dyno :p
</more random-ness>

<last bit of random-ness>
You know you own a Supra if:
you find yourself using the excuse "yeah, but you gots twice da displacement dude" after EVERY race
your car has so much camber it can drive on its side
birds make nests on your spoiler because its taller than the trees
your tach is bigger than your head
you have a shiftlight and your car is an automatic
you will only race if the other guy removes two sparkplugs
your exhaust sounds like a dying Moose
your bright green $300 air filter is bigger than your engine
you have more lights on the front of your car than the USS Voyager
you have "All Motor" emblazoned on your rear hatch right next to your 14.50 dial in
you have 'power by' anything anywhere on a car made by the engine manufacturer
you spent more money on stickers and stripes than your parents paid for your car
you go to a performance shop and immediately start rummaging through the decal bin
you sell crack for the image... not the money (:p)
you refuse to race because it's a "show car"
at Autocross events you don't participate because you have a drag race setup and at drag events you brag about kicking ass on the autocross.


and finally...

you brag about a turbo kit that never seems to get installed. :p

</last bit of random-ness>

Sorry guys… I just had to. :D

Thast is to funny. Is the the time I am supposed to laugh? :rolleyes:
That saying is old dude. I could say the same thing towards the camaros to. I see hug tachs and no power. Running 13 WITH slicks.

My Supra has no stickers, no SOCK drying clothe rack AKA spoiler, is an inline 6 which makes more power than most domestics on the street. even V 10's (since my car is a daily driver) has good gas milage, is quiet, has handling, looks, has a heater and full interior.

You can't put me in the same category as a honda as far as stickers and wings of the sort. and my engine is alot bigger than a honda. You should edit your little notes ;)

Oh as far as running 12's. That is plain stupid. Most supra guys don't run slicks because they don't want the car to be truely raced. They go for fun. Look at Titans, MVP HP freaks and many more that are in the 8 & 9's with 800 hp and more. They are Supras 8)

There alot of guys that talk about upgrades when they own a Honda and I have heard that myself. Supra guys? Never in my time I have own a Supra. Just with my experience.

Most of all my Supra is a FAT pig weighing in at 3600 pounds. So no excuse that it is a light car and that is why most mustangs say > your car is lighter = that is why your faster. :rolleyes: :p

My next question is WHAT DO YOU DRIVE? AND WHAT DOES IT RUN? :confused:

Duane

Hey Jason > we are on dude! We did try already remember ? They wouldn't let us. :cry::p

I wanted to add one thing to this. Look at my car under the hood. Most people ask if I drive my car all the time because it is sorta showy. I take it to shows and it has been in a mag. But! I race it all the chances I get. I drive it like I stole it. At mission people can vouch for me on that ;) Hey Jason :p

Yo upgrade, sorry to flame you (not really), anyone can stick a turbo on their car and produce big numbers. You guys need them, we don't although with a matching turbo like you have it would be no contest. So keep talkin about what you're gonna do,yada yada yada. Your car doesn't impress me, sorry. As far as calling you rice boy goes I know you don't have any stickers or other riced up stuff but where is your car made and what is the food staple of that country? Any car made in Asia is rice, plain and simple. Now I'm not gonna brag to you about what I'm gonna do cause talk is cheap. Let your wheels do the talkin at the track. :p

Hey Steve > you seem to be a redneck or what? I tell you what > I will race you in my cutlass and if you win I will race you in my Supra ;) You may win or lose but at least I race and don't just talk. I don't even care if my car is fast to you as I do this for myself. I just posted my turbo. Notice the thread doesn't say > please flame my car ;) All boards have one thing in common. The love of cars.

Power for power an inline 6 is more impressive plain a simple. Saying rice is plain stupid. You have no definition of it obviously. I have the 2 sides here so I can go either way with it. I have much respect for both rides. Wether be domestic or import if the power is there,we are all about having fun on our fast cars. :D

You obviously think different but then again I guess we get people like that on here alot. After all I am on the domestic board. Guess I will have to sign on as my domestic car. :rolleyes:

LOL

Duane

I don't know about you guys but i just saw a video of a older nissan skyline with a inline 6, dyno at just over 1100hp.
Now That to me is impressive.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Originally posted by The Watcher
I don't know about you guys but i just saw a video of a older nissan skyline with a inline 6, dyno at just over 1100hp.
Now That to me is impressive.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Nissan with an INLINE 6 Point made. :D

Duane

Redneck? Wanna buy a dirty used mac jacket? :lol: Sure I watch movies, those F and F cars blow yours away on looks and power. Maybe I like those decals too? I have purple neons for my silver 02 firehawk but haven't installed yet. Calling me rice is a laugh to me and it should be to you. Like Oldschool says, I'm different but not really a bad guy, thanks Oldschool, you're on my christmas list, but not you upgrade. You just keep talkin and upgrading. This redneck wouldn't trade his hawk for both your cars. Wow, you post on the domestic board too. I guess those import (rice) guys don't appreciate your ride so you post your pics everywhere. Now I will admit I like your turbo, your car needs one to keep up. I'll see you at Mission and boundary bay next spring. Maybe I wont be in my firehawk, if not you're really in trouble. :shock: I wish everyone would quit posting here and let this thread die, like the Supra. :p

Young and imature or just simply imature. This is a waste of time talking to you.
I will keep to the guys I know on here.


I have been told b a few people to ignore you anyway
:rolleyes: :D

PS: The supra comes with the turbo anyway, so of course it needs it. See you at mission mullet boy :p

Duane

wow... sorry guys, I was just kiddin' around... didn't mean to make anyone cry. :)

first of all drumhawk, duanes car is far from rice, and both of his cars would cut you in a race. and even if your talking corners by a chance, the supra will get you there too, even if its like 2 mph slower in the corner, when it hits a straight youll be crying for a 200 shot to keep up:D and if its a hwy run, all i can say is i smell bird cookin for dinner:p

all in fun, since you like flaming everyone elses car, lets flame yours? whats so great about a stocker firehawk? isnt it just an over priced penis extension for the firebird :p personally cars that have been customized and had lots of hours put into them is way more impressive for me cuz it shows that someone put effort into getting the car where it is and didnt just purchase a ride and be done with it. any car that you can buy from the dealership and is stock isnt nearly as impressive as a modded out car. id take duanes supra over your hawk any day, even though they're prolly similarly priced just my honest opinion though.

duane, when do i get a ride in your car? ive been deprived too long lol and as for next year we'll make sure the track lets us go, if they know whats good for them. gotta get that on video:D

steve: everytime u make a post .. u seem more like an idiot .. specially when u talk like that about duane's supra :rolleyes:

im sure if i hadnt met u id think ur a pimple infested 16 year old who jacks off to his dad's firehawk and calls it his own

buddy ur car is BONE STOCK .. its WORTHLESS IMO .. anyone can go and buy a stock car and leave it at that ... even a modded second gen takes more of my respect than a bone stock firehawk .. thats just a poorly overpriced version of a firebird with nothing to show for ... u would've been way better off buying a TA for half the price and modding it with te other half .. there is NOTHING impressive about ur car buddy .. get it thru ur head . uve never raced it .. not once .. u have nothing to show for other than a huge price tag

have u even seen duane's supra ? yeah i raced him .. i sprayed him with a 100 shot .. and guess what .. he was on my tail and ran with my car.. only reason i got ahead of him is because of his turbo lag ... but i would've been sliced had he opened his bottles on me

i will take duanes supra over ur firehawk anyday of the week ..

1) go mod ur car ..
2) go race ur car and prove it ..
3) earn some respect around here
4) then start **** talkin about other people

Steve ur car will NEVER be as fast as mine was .. and will never be as fast as my next one will be ... and guess what .. i bow down to duane's supra .. i've earned my respect in this neck of the woods and i give major respect to duane .. ur a noob with a big mouth and nothing to show for .. uve been doing a LOT of talking ... i know most of its for sh*ts and giggles .. but when u come around and insult someone like duane who most obviously has so much more automotive knowledge and skills than u, and a far superior car ... that really gets on my nerves ...

have u even SEEN his car :rolleyes: ?

:blah:

and you wonder why i called you dumbhawk:no:

Thanks Payam and Jason. :) I thankyou guys for support 8) and payam! > You know I want to race again :p My new set-up kicks my old turbos butt with ease dude! Seriously.

I appreciate it when someone looks at what I have done. Both my cars were not real fast cars to start (especially my 4 door). Someone can look at what has been done to a ride and appreciate the work and thought put in to it rather than flame it.
I will agree on one thing > my Cutlass is not the most or best car to mod LOL. But it does get attention at the track! The grocery getter LOL as Rick calls it.

I agree on the concept that anyone can buy a car EX: Z06 corvette and say they have a fast car. I plain and simple wanted a car to start modding and something that I can call my own and have my own style.

Again it supposed to be the love of cars here right! ;)

Payam > Jason > I will have to give you a rip in my car. It kicks the tires out in third! :D at low boost. 15PSI :p

Thanks again guys and the rest.

Duane

lol... just to clarify: Steve in Seattle is NOT Steve C (Drumhawk).

apparently I stepped into something a little sensitive to start with. :)


Duane: they were just generic Supra jokes, no personal flames intended, I've got a few friends on campus that have MKIV's. (I tell my Mustang buddies Ford jokes all the time too ;))

I even tell f-body jokes ;) ! Did you ever hear the one about the Tran-Am that.......

Originally posted by oldschool
I even tell f-body jokes ;) ! Did you ever hear the one about the Tran-Am that.......

what ? :think:

Originally posted by oldschool
I even tell f-body jokes ;) ! Did you ever hear the one about the Tran-Am that.......


WHAT :think:

Don't get your shirts in a knot, 95% of what I say is just trash-talkin around. Payam, I raced my firehawk at mission the night you hit the wall, remember. I haven't raced the hawk much cause it's a new car. You can flame my STOCK firehawk if you want, I guess my car going to SLP was a waste of time eh? No I haven't seen Duane's cars in person, the pics don't do any justice. Calling a car rice is the oldest phrase in the book so don't take it so personal. I like cars riced up a bit so no big deal. You guys know Duane and his cars better and they are obviously fast and have earned your respect. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone. I like all kinds of cars including imports. Unlike some people, flaming me doesn't bother me. If I wanted one of the fastest modded cars I'd have it. Still might get it but I like cars more street worthy. Too each your own. Now who wants a tissue for your tears. :cry: :p :lol:

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
steve:

buddy ur car is BONE STOCK .. its WORTHLESS IMO

My car is nowhere near as nice as some modded cars but your quote hear is far from the truth. I know a firehawk isn't heavily modded but it does have the blackwing air-lid, dual dual catback exhaust and a nice Bilstein suspension package with upgraded tires from SLP. bone stock eh? :rolleyes: Just cause you run 11's Payam you think you're king sh1t. Your car is off the road more than it is on. :p

not me, cuz it dont get to me, p.s. im so rich i can own everything my heart desires so it dont matter to me, maybe ill try and buy some respect:think: what do you think?

[i]Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd .. there is NOTHING impressive about ur car buddy ..
[/B] I never said a word about trying to impress you or anyone else with my hawk. Although in a show n shine I'd take home the hardware. I'm a different type of car guy. All you care about is that quarter-mile and the constant modding that goes along with it. In the real world on a road with curves and bumps I'd beat you probably. So what? So what you like Duane's car better. Who ask? Who really sounds like a pimple faced 16 year old.

Originally posted by Drumhawk
I never said a word about trying to impress you or anyone else with my hawk. Although in a show n shine I'd take home the hardware. I'm a different type of car guy. All you care about is that quarter-mile and the constant modding that goes along with it. In the real world on a road with curves and bumps I'd beat you probably. So what? So what you like Duane's car better. Who ask? Who really sounds like a pimple faced 16 year old.

dude get your facts straight lol payam a 1/4 mile hero? no thats me, hes a corner carver and turning type of guy. so hes on the same page as you sorry. he wants a streetable nice mannered all around car. not my bag of chips but to each his own;)

and before the spool and such i dont think you could beat him

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd


Steve ur car will NEVER be as fast as mine was .. and will never be as fast as my next one will be ...

? [/B] My name is Payam, I'm a little man, bet you can't go as fast as I can. They call me sideways cause into the wall I slam, :p Me, I like to jam, I don't drive a tin can I'm a car fan. What I got you can't buy on the lot, had to order a firehawk but you have forgot SLP, ya BONE STOCK, you just keep racing the clock and your mouth wont stop, as you said, start another thread gauging interest until we are dead, what's in your head? Ah yes, Crackzed, and I'll never have a car as fast as yours, you think you can blow anyone's doors. I tried to be nice and lend you my truck, now you are outta luck for flaming a firehawk you suck. Life's a b1tch and I'm not rich, don't go sideways into a ditch. Hearing what you said makes me want to get another Zed, a modded Z06 will be my fix, show me your tricks? My deal is close but I wont boast until you are toast, a Z06 modded at Thunder Racing, 500hp is what you'll be chasing, so get your bottle and on the throttle, go build a car model. So another years gone and it wont be long to find out who's wrong, I guess I'm a ding-dong or as Roy says dumb, But I have fun and will give you a run, that's it I'm done. :lol:

Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28


all in fun, since you like flaming everyone elses car, lets flame yours? whats so great about a stocker firehawk? isnt it just an over priced penis extension for the firebird :p That's good, I like it. I can take it. :lol: Anyone else want to flame my hawk? I've heard some big-time SLP flaming on other boards. My flaming is not to be taken seriously. It just kills time while I'm working all night. I'm pulling double-shifts now. Hmmm, I wonder why? :D

Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
[ im so rich i can own everything my heart desires so it dont matter to me, maybe ill try and buy some respect:think: [/B] Okay Jason, your car is pretty fast from what I've heard. Thats cool. I shouldn't shoot my mouth off without seeing your car and you're probably one of the fastest guys on this board but guys, speed isn't everything. :no: I know you guys will retort speed is everything, go ahead. I'm starting to know what you'll say before you say it, call it predictablity. I like speed, handling and good looks, that's just my style. Some of you guys would love to own anything doing 10's or 11's, including a rust bucket. I'll be doing more auto X and car-shows with the occasional pass down the track. That's me, I'm not gonna change. I beat the path of a different drummer. :p

Originally posted by upgradedsupra
Thanks Payam and Jason. :) I thankyou guys for support 8)

Duane Let this dude fight his own battles. :p I jokingly flame his car and you run to his defense. Sounds like a gang from the east side! :lol: Now I know you guys will attack what I say and that's cool. I'm going for a little visit down to the states now for a couple of days to back up what I say. My 345hp STOCK hawk is a worthless piece of crap. i wish I owned nice fast cars like Payam and Jason. Problem is, you guys always have some work to do on your car in the garage. I've got better things to do with my time. Don't get me wrong, I love a nice modded car and I can appreciate all the work that you guys put into them. But there is more to life than being a wrench monkey! :p Unfortunately I'll be away from the board for a couple of days. some may wish I never come back? I look forward to hear you flame me some more. it's all in good fun, remember? :lol: :usa:

Originally posted by Drumhawk
But there is more to life than being a wrench monkey! :p

oh yeah ? and what is it that you do ? change the sheets after a 85 year old pisses his pants at 3 am ? yeah i guess i went to SFU for 5 years so a nurse can call me a wrench monkey :rolleyes:

u call ur airfilter and muffler mods ?? get real man .. u think ur flimsy suspension is worth a penny ?? u obviously werent around when my car would rip ur head off around a corner .. yeah sure it was a drag only setup when u came around .. but u havent been around for long ... so go do ur homework before u start fartin on the mic ...

just admit it stev-o .. ur being a jackass .. thats why u get flamed .. there is a clear line between f*ckin around and being a "Steve" and u've clearly passed it ...

and about that truck ? wtf are u talkin about .. it ended up being a fall apart that needed work at the last minute anyway ? i was countin on that sh*t .. so much for offering it to me :rolleyes:

if u want respect for ur bone stock car u should setup a show and shine for urself in the hospital yard and get sick old 85 year olds to come give u prizes .. cuz those are the only people that care ... listen man .. u havent dont SH*T F*CK ALL to that car .. how does that make it impressive ? u ordered it from SLP .. whoopdi doo .. do u even know how to turn a wrench ? a car only becomes impressive and earns respect when the owner puts in the time, blood and sweat to modify it the way he wants it .. u say u like corners ? then mod it for that .. u wanna win shows? at least put some wheels or a custom paint job on it .. do SOMETHING to that damn car before u run ur mouth like ur king sh*t

and oh yeah . before i had my accident, my car parked next to yours would've stolen all ur pretty "Trophies" ... but my car aint a poodle dog going to shows to win pretty trophies .. i buoght it bone stock to the paper air filter and made it the fastest "running" car on the board .. what do u have to show for ? do u even change ur own oil ? modding these cars is part of owning it ... if ur not gonna mod it, dont call urself a auto enthusiest... i'll send u some Mr Lube coupons so u wont get ur hands dirty for ur next oil job

you come outta nowhere, call urself king sh*t of drag / autox and show, get into piss matches with everybody, manage to somehow piss EVERYONE off, all awhile u have an untouched car that takes noones respect home other than ur own

Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
u havent dont SH*T F*CK ALL to that car .. how does that make it impressive ? You shouldn't mod a rare car, it takes away from the value. sounds like I ruffled your feathers big mouth. Listen to you, you always try and make yourself sound like the fastest guy in town! :rolleyes: You're far from it. :p

Originally posted by Drumhawk
You shouldn't mod a rare car, it takes away from the value. sounds like I ruffled your feathers big mouth. Listen to you, you always try and make yourself sound like the fastest guy in town! :rolleyes: You're far from it. :p

i've been the fastest running car on the board for the past 2 years... far from fastest car in town .. but indeed the fastest Fbody in the club

Originally posted by Drumhawk
My name is Payam, I'm a little man, bet you can't go as fast as I can. They call me sideways cause into the wall I slam, :p Me, I like to jam, I don't drive a tin can I'm a car fan. What I got you can't buy on the lot, had to order a firehawk but you have forgot SLP, ya BONE STOCK, you just keep racing the clock and your mouth wont stop, as you said, start another thread gauging interest until we are dead, what's in your head? Ah yes, Crackzed, and I'll never have a car as fast as yours, you think you can blow anyone's doors. I tried to be nice and lend you my truck, now you are outta luck for flaming a firehawk you suck. Life's a b1tch and I'm not rich, don't go sideways into a ditch. Hearing what you said makes me want to get another Zed, a modded Z06 will be my fix, show me your tricks? My deal is close but I wont boast until you are toast, a Z06 modded at Thunder Racing, 500hp is what you'll be chasing, so get your bottle and on the throttle, go build a car model. So another years gone and it wont be long to find out who's wrong, I guess I'm a ding-dong or as Roy says dumb, But I have fun and will give you a run, that's it I'm done. :lol:

LMAO:D

now thats funny sh!t. okay guys lets just put this to rest now. its getting carried away to far.

i know how to change the subject: ARMENS THE CHEAPEST GUY ON THE BOARD:D