A/F ratio with longtubes?

94ZRiCeKiLr
10-20-2003, 11:21 AM
Could someone tell me whether long tubes tend to make the air/fuel ration rich or lean on an untuned LS1. I've gotten both answers and i was looking for some input. I personally tend to think rich but if headers lean it out im gonna stop beating on it till i get a tune....thanx for any input.

94ZRiCeKiLr
10-20-2003, 12:40 PM
Anyone?

My84Z
10-20-2003, 08:32 PM
generally rich if you havnt done an intake or tb.

Capn Pete
10-20-2003, 10:13 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the cars run a little bit on the rich side from the factory already?:think:

However, I think that when you run headers, the O2 sensors will pick up more heat, which makes them think that the engine is running hot due to a lean condition, so it will signal for more fuel, and thus cause the engine to actually run rich;) (I don't know if that's accurate, but it's a theory I heard one time, that also related to running higher compression as well:confused: ).

X-Roush Stanger
10-21-2003, 01:26 AM
ttt

Drew778/94Z
10-21-2003, 02:03 AM
The only real way to tell is with a wide band O2.

94ZRiCeKiLr
10-21-2003, 11:21 AM
thanx for the info....im taking the car to get dynoed pretty soon (no tune just a couple pulls for now ) but there is gonna be a wideband on it.