Who wants to trade for my 300zx!

I have a pristine condition 1991 300zx automatic 2+2. The 2+2 model is more rare (and worth more) then the 2 seater. It has 48k miles, and was used only as a weekend car for a looooooong time.

Black metallic paint with black leather. GREAT condition, NO rips or anything. T-Tops do not leak!

Now the good stuff. Custom fitted and designed OBX Racing Exhaust, nice DEEP tone, not ricey at all. Injen intake, aluminum hardpipes, and a K&N filter were installed as well. The engine is dressed up with custom painted valve covers, blue hoses, and painted fluid covers.

There is a custom CD stereo installed in place of the stock bose unit.




Now, I'm looking for an LT1 or LS1 Firebird Formula or Transam, with an automatic transmission. Low miles preferred. Please reply here or PM me :)

Your Datsun is worth about $4500. At least that's the average private party value for it.

I don't think you'll be able to trade for a faster car here, unless you have cash too.

-Dave C. '97 Z28

Originally posted by Dave C. '97 Z28
Your Datsun is worth about $4500. At least that's the average private party value for it.

I don't think you'll be able to trade for a faster car here, unless you have cash too.

-Dave C. '97 Z28

Kelly Blue Book gave me a Private Party Value of 8,225 :cool:

Put it up for sale on some Nissan boards.

Should sell pretty easy up on eBay (http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?sokeywordredirect=1&ht=1&satitle=1991+300ZX&from=R8&sosortproperty=3&sosortorder=2)

Originally posted by jas142
Kelly Blue Book gave me a Private Party Value of 8,225 :cool:


yup, i looked it up also, and got $8195 for your car as a private party value.

assuming you get about $7-7500 for it, thats about the same price as a decent mileage 95ish LT1.

im not sure where dave97 got his pricing from.

The 300Z + $20K for my LS1...

Originally posted by KISLES2000Z28
The 300Z + $20K for my LS1...

why do people feel the need to come in and be smartasses?

I got my price from www.Edmunds.com and looked up a 1991 Nissan 300zx 2+2, non-turbo.

-Dave C. '97 Z28

Damn $7-8k for a 91 anything that is not a vette or more exotic?

Sell it right away...

Originally posted by Dave C. '97 Z28
I got my price from www.Edmunds.com and looked up a 1991 Nissan 300zx 2+2, non-turbo.

-Dave C. '97 Z28


you didnt use their options list correctly, you have to add in mileage adn all the other stuff.

edmunds report for his car, with listed options

private party selling price- $6500ish

dealer selling price- $8500ish


so the $7-7.5k i suggested earlier is about right.

Originally posted by got_hp?
you didnt use their options list correctly, you have to add in mileage adn all the other stuff.

edmunds report for his car, with listed options

private party selling price- $6500ish

dealer selling price- $8500ish


so the $7-7.5k i suggested earlier is about right.

Well, either way you slice it, I can't see someone trading a Z28 or SS for a 300ZX. Sorry, man.

Ya.. Why trade for a slower car, granted they looked nice in their day and many still do, but without a turbo I heard they were dogs.

Originally posted by former86camaro
but without a turbo I heard they were dogs.


pretty much slow....15-16 1/4 i think........but not everyone is interested in speed.

some people want a comfortable, reliable daily driver, with a nice interior.

Originally posted by got_hp?
pretty much slow....15-16 1/4 i think........but not everyone is interested in speed.

some people want a comfortable, reliable daily driver, with a nice interior.

Well I have one of those, it's a Camaro Z28. Wierd, eh?

I really don't want to turn this thread into a flame war. First of all, I'm not a typical import guy or a ricer. My previous car was a 71 Olds Cutlass 442. I was setup to buy a 1993 Trans Am next, but it fell through and a 300zx for a good price came along.

No offense, but a few of you guys that replied are being really cocky. Some of you are helpful, and I thank you for that. But the other guys.. YES an F-body will beat a 300zx (non turbo) in a straightline. The 300zxTT will run 13s though, and can run low 13s and 12s with VERY litle work. But the Z has the feel to it of a more rounded sports car. In an autoX event, the Z wouldn't have the balance and traction issues that a more ackward F-Body would. In a road race too, the Z would fare better. Yes, in a straight line my car runs 15 flat in the state its in. But there IS much more to a car then that, if you're interested in other areas of driving or racing.

/rant over. Tryin to keep it civilized lol

Originally posted by StormSigma
Well I have one of those, it's a Camaro Z28. Wierd, eh?


hehe.......im a domestic guy first and foremost.........but ive driven both my LT1 and my friends 300zx (although its a turbo model) extensively, and theres no way in hell you will convince me that the Z28 has a nicer interior, better interior build quality, or more comfort than the nissan...........and for a daily driver that is what matters to most people.

Originally posted by got_hp?
why do people feel the need to come in and be smartasses?
Actually that was a valid offer, you obviously don't know my car and what is done to it. I can sell it for $24k as is. I would take $8k for the payoff, take the rest and put it down on a house.

Originally posted by got_hp?
hehe.......im a domestic guy first and foremost.........but ive driven both my LT1 and my friends 300zx (although its a turbo model) extensively, and theres no way in hell you will convince me that the Z28 has a nicer interior, better interior build quality, or more comfort than the nissan...........and for a daily driver that is what matters to most people.

Well, I won't argue, because let's face it, all of those things you mention are subjective terms. I'm 6'4, and my car feels pretty darn comfortable to me. As well, I wasn't trying to hate on the guy for wanting to trade in inadequate car for an LS1. He talks about his Nissan being able to beat a Camaro or Firebird in a road course, and then mentions "Well my car can run 15's all day."

Newsflash, a POORLY DRIVEN LS1 F-body can run 13's all day. And with even minor suspension modifications, will be able to more than hang with a 300ZX through any road course.

As well, sell for $24,000? Wrong. If you could sell that car for $24,000, there's absolutely NO reason that you'd be here trying to trade for a faster car. Once again, not trying to hate, just pointing out the facts. Anyone that pays for a car that someone else might have extensively modified is a fool anyway, but that's just my opinion.

So, once again, it all boils down to the fact that I do not feel that any LS1 (or LT1 for that matter) equipped FBody owner would see the illogic in trading for a car that's almost 13 years old for a Camaro, which in this case would be a superior car (except of course, for the few minor SUBJECTIVE terms you bring up of comfort and build quality).

My advice?

www.autotrader.com

Good luck.

Originally posted by StormSigma
As well, sell for $24,000? Wrong. If you could sell that car for $24,000, there's absolutely NO reason that you'd be here trying to trade for a faster car.

i guess people dont read anymore
that was an FBODY guy saying he could sell his 00 LS1 for 24k. (which i dont understand where he gets that number, since a 2000 SS edition with only 1 mile on it and all options is only 19k)

on a side note.......6'4 is mighty big for an fbody..........how much do you weigh?
ive given a couple friends rides who were 6'1-6'2 and when my passenger seat is slid all the way back, their knees are still almost hitting my dash.

Originally posted by got_hp?
i guess people dont read anymore
that was an FBODY guy saying he could sell his 00 LS1 for 24k. (which i dont understand where he gets that number, since a 2000 SS edition with only 1 mile on it and all options is only 19k)

on a side note.......6'4 is mighty big for an fbody..........how much do you weigh?
ive given a couple friends rides who were 6'1-6'2 and when my passenger seat is slid all the way back, their knees are still almost hitting my dash.

I went back, and you're correct, I apparently read that wrong. My mistake. I was wondering how in the heck that guy was figuring to sell a 91 300ZX for $24k.

As well, I'm about 230lbs. The driver's seat, I don't even have pushed all the way back, because if I do, then I almost have to lean forward to grab the wheel. I can agree that there seems to be less room on the passenger side. I've wridden in my friend's 98 WS6 a few times, and yes, I do have problems with knee-meets-dash issues. The driver's seat doesn't share that problem, thank God! I'm thinking it also has something to do with the hump. But the driving position in the F-body seems to be made for taller people, because I've driven new Mustangs and felt pretty cramped.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Well, I won't argue, because let's face it, all of those things you mention are subjective terms. I'm 6'4, and my car feels pretty darn comfortable to me. As well, I wasn't trying to hate on the guy for wanting to trade in inadequate car for an LS1. He talks about his Nissan being able to beat a Camaro or Firebird in a road course, and then mentions "Well my car can run 15's all day."

Newsflash, a POORLY DRIVEN LS1 F-body can run 13's all day. And with even minor suspension modifications, will be able to more than hang with a 300ZX through any road course.

As well, sell for $24,000? Wrong. If you could sell that car for $24,000, there's absolutely NO reason that you'd be here trying to trade for a faster car. Once again, not trying to hate, just pointing out the facts. Anyone that pays for a car that someone else might have extensively modified is a fool anyway, but that's just my opinion.

So, once again, it all boils down to the fact that I do not feel that any LS1 (or LT1 for that matter) equipped FBody owner would see the illogic in trading for a car that's almost 13 years old for a Camaro, which in this case would be a superior car (except of course, for the few minor SUBJECTIVE terms you bring up of comfort and build quality).

My advice?

www.autotrader.com

Good luck.

Its people like you that give ALL F-body owners the stigma of ignorant asses. Of course, I know alot of cool F-Body guys. But I guess once in awhile theres someone like you. I wasn't BRAGGING about running low 15s, I said It runs a slow 1/4 mile but can handle amazingly.

If you have nothing productive to add, why do you bother posting in this thread? Everyone is so tough over the internet :rolleyes:

Originally posted by jas142
Its people like you that give ALL F-body owners the stigma of ignorant asses. Of course, I know alot of cool F-Body guys. But I guess once in awhile theres someone like you. I wasn't BRAGGING about running low 15s, I said It runs a slow 1/4 mile but can handle amazingly.

If you have nothing productive to add, why do you bother posting in this thread? Everyone is so tough over the internet :rolleyes:

Well, hey, I apologize for pointing out your illogic. Don't get mad at me because nobody wants to trade a perfectly good Fbody for your piece of sh1t. So, take your "tough guy" negativity elsewhere.

As well, I give Fbody owners a bad stigma of being ignorant asses?

Well, you do so much better than I, thinking someone would trade up with you.

Moron.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Well, hey, I apologize for pointing out your illogic. Don't get mad at me because nobody wants to trade a perfectly good Fbody for your piece of sh1t. So, take your "tough guy" negativity elsewhere.

As well, I give Fbody owners a bad stigma of being ignorant asses?

Well, you do so much better than I, thinking someone would trade up with you.

Moron.

Bleh, theres almost no point in arguing. Maybe you don't even know what a 300zx is.

The non turbo 300zx 2+2's cost about $32,000 in 1991. The turbo cars cost almost 40, make 300 horsepower on a V6, and run 13s out of the box, while still having the interior quality, ergonomics, and features that make it a real sports car.


I didn't know a 13 second car produced in the early 90s, when the fastest fbodies produced at the time couldn't run even close with it, was a "piece of ****". Sorry for pointing out your illogic. But I guess all the 3rd gen F-bodies are "pieces of ****?" Only LS1s and LT1s counted, right? Smart argument :rolleyes:

Dear God! StormSigma, why don't you just stay out of the thread if you're going to act like an ass? He obviously has different opinions on what is a nice car than you, so what? If people didn't like different cars we'd all be driving the same thing. Just let him try to sell his car. I personally think even the non-turbo 300zx's are great cars, and they do handle great and have better build quality than F-bodies. That's not a flame, just a fact.

I don't understand why people have to go and flame someone when they're just trying to sell/trade their car? If you don't like his car then you don't have to buy it! Simple as that, and you don't have to read his posts either.

Anyway, good luck selling your 300zx, I would love to grab it if I had the money.

Originally posted by Camride
Dear God! StormSigma, why don't you just stay out of the thread if you're going to act like an ass? He obviously has different opinions on what is a nice car than you, so what? If people didn't like different cars we'd all be driving the same thing. Just let him try to sell his car. I personally think even the non-turbo 300zx's are great cars, and they do handle great and have better build quality than F-bodies. That's not a flame, just a fact.

I don't understand why people have to go and flame someone when they're just trying to sell/trade their car? If you don't like his car then you don't have to buy it! Simple as that, and you don't have to read his posts either.

Anyway, good luck selling your 300zx, I would love to grab it if I had the money.

Yeah, OHkay.

Perhaps you're also having reading retention troubles. Allow me to cut and paste the element of his post here of note:

"Now, I'm looking for an LT1 or LS1 Firebird Formula or Transam, with an automatic transmission. Low miles preferred. Please reply here or PM me"


Now then, my question to you is this. Would you trade an LT1 or LS1 equipped Fbody for his 300ZX?

Exactly.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Yeah, OHkay.

Perhaps you're also having reading retention troubles. Allow me to cut and paste the element of his post here of note:

"Now, I'm looking for an LT1 or LS1 Firebird Formula or Transam, with an automatic transmission. Low miles preferred. Please reply here or PM me"


Now then, my question to you is this. Would you trade an LT1 or LS1 equipped Fbody for his 300ZX?

Exactly.

Well why is it YOUR place to respond then? Why don't you respond to my last post?

By the way, thanks for defending me Camride:cool:

Originally posted by jas142
Well why is it YOUR place to respond then? Why don't you respond to my last post?

By the way, thanks for defending me Camride:cool:

Because I didn't think it required response. After all, you're screwing yourself by even replying. How so? Well let's look into this thing called "logic". Try to keep up.

"The non turbo 300zx 2+2's cost about $32,000 in 1991. The turbo cars cost almost 40, make 300 horsepower on a V6, and run 13s out of the box, while still having the interior quality, ergonomics, and features that make it a real sports car. "

Ok, so explain why you'd trade such an obviously :rolleyes: superior ride for an Fbody in the first place then?


Way to fall into your own trap. "Illogic", indeed. :rolleyes:

P.S. Yes, I knew what the car was in the beginning, which is why I laughed in the first place.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Because I didn't think it required response. After all, you're screwing yourself by even replying. How so? Well let's look into this thing called "logic". Try to keep up.

"The non turbo 300zx 2+2's cost about $32,000 in 1991. The turbo cars cost almost 40, make 300 horsepower on a V6, and run 13s out of the box, while still having the interior quality, ergonomics, and features that make it a real sports car. "

Ok, so explain why you'd trade such an obviously :rolleyes: superior ride for an Fbody in the first place then?


Way to fall into your own trap. "Illogic", indeed. :rolleyes:

P.S. Yes, I knew what the car was in the beginning, which is why I laughed in the first place.

I'm trading it because I'm not into AutoX or drifting so much anymore. I'd rather have a 1/4 mile drag car. There is more to racing then going in a straightline.

Oh, and speaking of 1/4 mile, since that seems to be ALL you're focused on.. I'd like to see a Stock non turbo 91 300zx race a stock 91 Camaro Z28 Automatic, the 1991 counterpart to your "Superior race car".

Originally posted by jas142
I'm trading it because I'm not into AutoX or drifting so much anymore. I'd rather have a 1/4 mile drag car. There is more to racing then going in a straightline.

I agree, and it's pointless that we've argued over this. If I were you, I'd sell the car online. I have had two friends sell their modified cars (as yours is) online. By doing so, you are able to list its modifications, and get what you think it's worth. A dealer won't do that. I'd even tell you that Ebay (as someone else suggested) is a good idea. I think you'd be able to get the kind of cash you're looking for, CERTAINLY enough to pick up a newer Fbody. And (if you don't hate me enough not to), my advice to you would be to also look for your replacement Fbody online, because that's where I found mine. There were no dealers around UCF for a fifty mile radius that had (in March) any Z28's or SS's for anything less than $17k+. I found mine through an internet dealer for $12,700. So, definitely do the online buying thing. I hope everything works out for you, man.

Cheers.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Yeah, OHkay.

Perhaps you're also having reading retention troubles. Allow me to cut and paste the element of his post here of note:

"Now, I'm looking for an LT1 or LS1 Firebird Formula or Transam, with an automatic transmission. Low miles preferred. Please reply here or PM me"


Now then, my question to you is this. Would you trade an LT1 or LS1 equipped Fbody for his 300ZX?

Exactly.

Ok, besides the fact that there could be plenty of reasons to trade to a 300zx. Like, you can't afford your Z28 anymore so you need to trade down to something cheaper, less expensive on insurance. Or maybe you just want to trade into something different. F-bodies are not the best cars on the planet, I hate to break it to you.

ok, edited my post, you responded alot nicer on that last one.

Originally posted by Camride
Ok, besides the fact that there could be plenty of reasons to trade to a 300zx. Like, you can't afford your Z28 anymore so you need to trade down to something cheaper, less expensive on insurance. Or maybe you just want to trade into something different. F-bodies are not the best cars on the planet, I hate to break it to you.

ok, edited my post, you responded alot nicer on that last one.

Well, let's be honest. This is an Fbody board. Nobody here bought their cars because they care about luxury, interior fit-n-finish, or details like that. We bought what we run because we like engines that roar, destroying ricers, track times, and scaring our girlfriends! :D

I think if you were to look at the cars produced that year, you would find that American cars in general were not built as good or could not perform as well as the Japs cars. Prior to 93 I would not have touched a GM product. I drove mostly Toyota. I figured that if I could make a 4 banger do what Chevrolet was doing with a V8 why not. I mostly owned Supras and Celicas and MR2s and never had a Z or for that matter a Vette come close to any of the Supras and had very few close to my Celicas. The MR2s never got a lot of race time but were fun in the corners. It took Chevy a decade or so to produce a car to finally compete and by then they stopped importing the *** supercars.

If I had my choice, I would not pick a 300ZX, I would probably pick a Supra, but all things considered I dont think you could compare a 91 300ZX to a 91 V8 fbody . But then again lets face it, you can pick up a pretty nice 91 fbody for about $3000, half that of a 300ZX. So the extra money can go to mods.

I have found that I have a hard time picking between straight line performance and cornering, so I picked up some early Triumphs to have fun in the twisties.

Originally posted by StormSigma
Well, let's be honest. This is an Fbody board. Nobody here bought their cars because they care about luxury, interior fit-n-finish, or details like that. We bought what we run because we like engines that roar, destroying ricers, track times, and scaring our girlfriends! :D

Very true, especially on that last one:D:D

But either way, the 300zx is a good car, and there's nothing wrong with him trying to find someone to sell/trade it to here.

Good luck selling it bro!

Originally posted by mnypitTA
I think if you were to look at the cars produced that year, you would find that American cars in general were not built as good or could not perform as well as the Japs cars. Prior to 93 I would not have touched a GM product. I drove mostly Toyota. I figured that if I could make a 4 banger do what Chevrolet was doing with a V8 why not. I mostly owned Supras and Celicas and MR2s and never had a Z or for that matter a Vette come close to any of the Supras and had very few close to my Celicas. The MR2s never got a lot of race time but were fun in the corners. It took Chevy a decade or so to produce a car to finally compete and by then they stopped importing the *** supercars.

If I had my choice, I would not pick a 300ZX, I would probably pick a Supra, but all things considered I dont think you could compare a 91 300ZX to a 91 V8 fbody . But then again lets face it, you can pick up a pretty nice 91 fbody for about $3000, half that of a 300ZX. So the extra money can go to mods.

I have found that I have a hard time picking between straight line performance and cornering, so I picked up some early Triumphs to have fun in the twisties.

Hey, if you're waiting for an argument from me on that score, you'll be awhile. I know full well that GM products were crap for a long time. It's only now that they're making the attempt to get good again. If money had been no object, I'd have tried to track down a last gen Supra myself. A beautiful car. Or maybe an RX-7, but then again, I hear those are pains in the ass to work on. Not my bag, really. Ah well. My Z is good enough for now.

Originally posted by got_hp?
i guess people dont read anymore
that was an FBODY guy saying he could sell his 00 LS1 for 24k. (which i dont understand where he gets that number, since a 2000 SS edition with only 1 mile on it and all options is only 19k)

Like I said before, you don't know what is done to my car.

Originally posted by KISLES2000Z28
Like I said before, you don't know what is done to my car.


mods dont add value

Originally posted by StormSigma
Yeah, OHkay.

Perhaps you're also having reading retention troubles. Allow me to cut and paste the element of his post here of note:

"Now, I'm looking for an LT1 or LS1 Firebird Formula or Transam, with an automatic transmission. Low miles preferred. Please reply here or PM me"


Now then, my question to you is this. Would you trade an LT1 or LS1 equipped Fbody for his 300ZX?

Exactly.



i just assumed he meant trade plus cash if applicable (for an ls1)

an lt1 could be a direct trade, since there are a lot of lt1's that go for less than $7k

lol I'm glad we've settled the argument. Fighting about it is stupid, everyone seeks a car for different purposes, lets all just get along :cool:

Originally posted by got_hp?
mods dont add value
Really, privately selling a car with mods such as a custom paint job, H/C & full boltons, clutch, system, expensive rims and tires in very good condition would yeild me blue book value? I want what you are smoking.

They are right though. Mods do not ad value. Beleive me I have tried and finally ended up stripping all the items I could(within reason) and selling them seperately.

When most people look at cars(enthusiasts like us are not most people)they think that if it was modded it must have been abused. Then if you have an enthusiast looking at it, more than likely they either cannot afford it or the bank wont lend anymore money than book value. So if you ask several thousand dollars over book value than the people have to come up with the differance out of pocket.

Lots of things hinder the sale of a modded car. It is hard to sell one even for book value. Unless you find that needle in a heystack. One in a million.