Great C6 pic!

Z284ever
10-14-2003, 11:46 PM
http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6518

CamaroJim
10-14-2003, 11:53 PM
wow!:eek:
I think it will actually look better than the c5(and that's no small feat IMO).

camaro6
10-15-2003, 02:12 AM
Looks pretty good:) Though im no corvette expert by any means, it does look very close to the c5 from the side. The front and rear do at least from what i can tell.

Pentatonic
10-15-2003, 03:06 AM
Hmm. OK, that looks a little better than those white C6 vettes that have been floating on the internet lately. On this car, you can see it's sharper design and the styling cues from the C3 vettes. Perhaps the C6 will look awesome after all.

Z28Wilson
10-15-2003, 06:31 AM
Hmm. Doesn't look very daring. Not that I expected it to be, but maybe I was looking for more pronounced fender buldges. I also thought the C6 was supposed to be considerably shorter in length compared to the C5. Doesn't look it from that pic. :think:

HuJass
10-15-2003, 08:04 AM
After seeing the pic on The Car Connection, I am inclined to believe that this pic

http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e_article000188960.cfm

is pretty accurate. We still don't know about front and rear end details, but I would bet this pewter rendering is pretty close.

And it looks sweet!!

Darth Xed
10-15-2003, 08:24 AM
From that profile view, I'm not so sure I like the way the fender dips down before meetig the windshield area now... :blah:

Also, I sort of wonder how many C5 parts are still there... the black plastic part where the A-pillar meets the side window looks to be straight C5... as do the side mirrors. (Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I think I am sick this morning, and I am too tired, sick, and lazy to pull up comparable pics. lol.)

Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
10-15-2003, 08:27 AM
That's the first time I've seen drilled rotors on a factory car! And check out the tires too! Yikes! :eek:

99SilverSS
10-15-2003, 09:15 AM
Looks good but then again I've always liked the car since I saw it.

The article from Car Connection says not to look for carbon fiber body panels and an aluminum hydroformed frame on production C6's. I wouldn't be so certain that carbon fiber panels don't find their way onto the C6 Z06. I think the 04 Z16 Z06 was a test of feasability and I beleive it worked. The savings in weight and exclusiveness of having carbon fiber panels is too hard to pass up.

Also someone said this will be the first production vehicle with drilled rotors.... well not exactly Porsche Boxter S's and Turbo's as well as Carrera 4S's have had drilled rotors for some time. Limited production but production still!

guionM
10-15-2003, 09:30 AM
Are those tires or rim protectors?

Seriously, though it looks like not much more than a reskin, it doesn't look bad. :)

CLEAN
10-15-2003, 10:18 AM
To answer the length question, I think the quote you may be thinking about is the front and rear overhangs are supposed to be shorter than the C5, but w/ the car having a longer wheelbase, overall length is about the same.

I personally like the pewter car quite a bit, but a source considerably in the know gave the exact quote "close, but no cigar" to that particular rendering.

Chris 96 WS6
10-15-2003, 10:26 AM
The front overhang is an illusion IMO, hiding a shorter, stubbier nose. I think the bra is "stuffed" to hide the shape of the nose.

I would also bet those aren't the production wheels, they just don't look that impressive to me.

As far as the brakes go, those are straight up C5 parts, so does not appear to be any upgrades there other than the drilled rotors. I also would not be suprised to see the C6 NOT have the drilled rotors, as you have to cast them in to the rotor blanks to prevent cracking, and to my knowledge Brembo is the only supplier for cast-in holes in rotors.

Z284ever
10-15-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
and to my knowledge Brembo is the only supplier for cast-in holes in rotors.

:think:

Z284ever
10-15-2003, 10:34 AM
And for your viewing pleasure....3 more shots of the same car.

Are they at Nurburing?

(click the arrows or where it says Chevy Corvette....hope you speak German)

http://www.motorline.cc/autowelt/index.php?section=autowelt&article=116418

99SilverSS
10-15-2003, 10:47 AM
No Brembo isn't the only cross drilled rotor supplier or rotor supplier at all. Raybestos and Bosch do OE brake products like rotors and pads. These companies unlike Brembo have more production power and logistical networks in place for just-in-time production that corps like GM love.


And as for the spy pic. I think a few of you need to stop this speculation from just a pic as to what the C6 will or won't have. We havent even seen the nose or tail. Unlike the Mustang... But the fact is most of what we think we see in these pics may or may not happen. YOu have to believe that the C6 will expand the C5's technical, performance, and quality to the next level. Sure it could share he same frame with some improvements but 63-82 Vettes shared the same frame. This wouldn't be the first time. Things like brake hardware and the nose design won't be available till Jan 04.

SNEAKY NEIL
10-15-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Z284ever
And for your viewing pleasure....3 more shots of the same car.

Are they at Nurburing?

(click the arrows or where it says Chevy Corvette....hope you speak German)

http://www.motorline.cc/autowelt/index.php?section=autowelt&article=116418

I think what is odd is that the shot of the rear, there are those diagonal creases near the license plate area that mat suggest some strong contours.

Damn them, they just don't want anyone to see the front or rear.

Z28Wilson
10-15-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by HuJass
After seeing the pic on The Car Connection, I am inclined to believe that this pic

http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e_article000188960.cfm

is pretty accurate.

Those spy shots don't look much like that rendering to me. The spies still show a more C5 "melted stick-of-butter" shape than the sharp creases of that rendering. :think:

Threxx
10-15-2003, 01:25 PM
Those wheels look pansy..

Chris 96 WS6
10-15-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by 99SilverSS
No Brembo isn't the only cross drilled rotor supplier or rotor supplier at all. Raybestos and Bosch do OE brake products like rotors and pads.

That's not anywhere near what I said.

I did not say Brembo was the only company that made rotors
I did not say Brembo was the only company that made pads
I did not say Brembo was the only company making drilled rotors.

What I said was...TO MY KNOWLEDGE, Brembo is the only company making "drilled" rotors by actually casting the holes into the rotors. If you really drill them in, stress risers will form around the holes and they will crack under hard use. Most C5 road racers just use stock undrilled rotors for that reason.

They work on Porsche, etc. because Brembo casts the wholes into the rotor cores rather than drilling them. This makes them pricier than a true set of drilled rotors.

Could it be that GM has found a supplier other than brembo to make cast-in-hole rotors at a lower price for the C6? Yes, its possible, but considering the downsides to cross drilling (even if you do cast the holes in, the holes = a reduction in surface area plus loss of heat sink material), there's not really any point in the extra expense. I think those are on there just to get us talking about it.

Sixer-Bird
10-15-2003, 02:15 PM
Three more months.... I can't wait! The only thing I'm going to predict is that this car will be GREAT!

morb|d
10-16-2003, 03:45 AM
i'm not going to judge based on these because they're not final, but I can already tell from the outlines that they screwed up the classic C5 look. they were trying to recreate it but make it "different" at the same time. they made it different, but not good looking. when the dust settles after the unvailing i'll be surprised if I like the C6 more than the C5. the C5 is just classic at this point.

99SilverSS
10-16-2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
That's not anywhere near what I said.

I did not say Brembo was the only company that made rotors
I did not say Brembo was the only company that made pads
I did not say Brembo was the only company making drilled rotors.

What I said was...TO MY KNOWLEDGE, Brembo is the only company making "drilled" rotors by actually casting the holes into the rotors. If you really drill them in, stress risers will form around the holes and they will crack under hard use. Most C5 road racers just use stock undrilled rotors for that reason.

They work on Porsche, etc. because Brembo casts the wholes into the rotor cores rather than drilling them. This makes them pricier than a true set of drilled rotors.

Could it be that GM has found a supplier other than brembo to make cast-in-hole rotors at a lower price for the C6? Yes, its possible, but considering the downsides to cross drilling (even if you do cast the holes in, the holes = a reduction in surface area plus loss of heat sink material), there's not really any point in the extra expense. I think those are on there just to get us talking about it.

Ok here is the deal with this. Brembo, Raybestos, Bosch, make OE rotors. Reguardless of how they are made, cast in hole, or true drilled really doesn't matter. Your preface is the C6 would somehow need this more expensive type of rotor, which it may or may not. The fact is GM will put out a bid to these aformentioned suppliers looking for a rotor with certain specs. Now the way at which each supplier goes about reaching that may be different. But under testing the chosen brand must pass the tests GM will do on the product. So lets say your correct in your knowledge of Brembo and they make a top notch product that passes all tests easily yet costs much more. And Raybestos comes along with a product that isn't quite a good but does pass all GM's performance standards, for a lesser cost. Which one will GM take? Remeber this isn't racing it's for a street car. Somehow you've got the idea that the C6 will need a racing spec type rotor. That just isn't the case.
What you may pay more for on the track isn't always needed for the street. Now if GM said to the suppliers we have loads of cash to spend and we want a rotor with holes cast into it. We have very high racing needs. Then you'd see the suppliers submit a proposal and if it meant that Raybestos or Bosch had to get a press to cast in holes to the rotors as opposed to drilling them then thats what they would do if awarded the contract.

JEDCamino
10-16-2003, 01:33 PM
Man, I'm liking this car more everytime I see a new photo of it. I especially like the the fender bulges and the way the side vent kind of flows into them. Very nice so far, IMO. I just hope the front and rear are as good. Also, I think those wheels, production or not, look kind of cool. :thumb:

Chris 96 WS6
10-16-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by 99SilverSS
Somehow you've got the idea that the C6 will need a racing spec type rotor. That just isn't the case.


No, what I am saying is that holes in the rotors aren't all they are cracked up to be, and in reality a racing spec rotor does not automatically mean it has to have holes in it. Directional ventilation vanes and lots of mass are much more effective at cooling than holes running perpendicular to the rotor face.

Even simpler, all I am saying is that holes in rotors are wayyyyy-over rated, so that regardless of whether its racing spec or not, they are simply not necessary and an extra cost of production. Since I'm sure the Vette team knows this, I highly doubt they'd waste their time with crossdrilled rotors for the production C6 when the non-drilled are as good, if not better, at a lower price.

Anyway, lets get off this topic, I apologize for taking us as far off the subject as I have to this point.

99SilverSS
10-16-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6

Anyway, lets get off this topic, I apologize for taking us as far off the subject as I have to this point.

Its cool man we all are on the same team here! I'm not even sure whare the cross-drilled rotors on the C6 came from. But I work at Bendix in aftermarket research so when someone talks brakes I tend to have a few things to say.